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Along with obvious ones like uBlock Origin working perfectly, etc., I have 2 other favorites: - Native reader mode - Native PiP mode for videos Yes, you can

Along with obvious ones like uBlock Origin working perfectly, etc., I have 2 other favorites: - Native reader mode - Native PiP mode for videos Yes, you can get extensions for this in Chrom(e/ium) but having these as a native feature is really nice. Things I want to see in Firefox: - Good/extensible keybindings - Tab groups - Tab search EDIT: How do I break sentences to newline in HN without really making a new paragraph? You know, for bullet points, etc.

jackosdev 4y ago
If you're into Vim, this is a fantastic extension for keybindings: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tridactyl-vim/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tridactyl-vim...
- kretaceous 4y ago
  I should be clear. What I was referring to when I said `keybindings` is browser/developer keybindings that are not yet made configurable. There's been an open issue for 7 years asking for a shortcut key for the eyedropper[0]. The navigation between developer panels is also a bit tedious. The page focus key, F6, is not configurable. These are some instances I was thinking when I said I wanted good keybinding support. I'll be really willing to try an extension that achieves these but it's really the browser's job. With that said, I've tried a bunch of these extensions in the past! I'm not a vim guy so I settled with Link Hints[1] for in-page navigation. I cannot recommend it enough for non-vim guys. It's really underrated. 0: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1177108 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1177108 1: https://lydell.github.io/LinkHints/ https://lydell.github.io/LinkHints/
  - 5e92cb50239222b 4y ago
    > focus key, F6 JFYI, Alt+D and Ctrl+L also work.
    - kretaceous 4y ago
      These only focus the address bar, no? I want the other way round. I want to focus the page when the focus is outside it, like the address bar.
  - the_pwner224 4y ago
    Thanks for the mention of F6, I had been looking for a page focus key for a while to restore focus after switching to the address bar. I've discovered that "ctrl-f esc" also works; focus goes back to the page when the search bar closes. Convenient if you have capslock remapped to escape.
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chrismorgan 4y ago
> Good/extensible keybindings https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/manage-extension-shortcuts-firefox https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/manage-extension-shortc... is a little hidden, but gives you at least some flexibility. > Tab search https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/search-open-tabs-firefox https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/search-open-tabs-firefo..., I use % in the address bar very regularly.
- kretaceous 4y ago
  > I use % in the address bar very regularly. I use * for bookmarks and ^ for history but have never known about this. :) Thanks! And yes, I do use extension shortcuts. Can't imagine my life without Bitwarden or Tab Stash keybindings. See https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1177108 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1177108 to know what I actually meant.
dmytrish 4y ago
Tree Style Tabs solved the tab grouping problem for me. I like to put it on the right and I'm looking for a way to have the tab bar hidden. Tab search exists: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/search-open-tabs-firefox https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/search-open-tabs-firefo..., also you type % into the address bar to start searching over tabs. Not sure if this covers your needs, though.
- andrepd 4y ago
  As a power user of side tabs, I have switched to Sideberry from TST.
- Kaze404 4y ago
  You can hide the tab bar through userstyles css. It can't be done from Firefox itself unfortunately, but once you set it up you never have to do it again.
- timerol 4y ago
  When I saw the title of this article, I assumed it had to be about Tree Style Tags. No other browser feature has so immediately become a feature I must have so quickly. Privacy and ad-blocking are great, but I could see myself being lazy and switching to a browser with a better UX, if one existed. But you'll have to take Tree Style Tabs from my cold, dead hands
  - solarkraft 4y ago
    It's pretty much the only reason I'm staying with Firefox. Mozilla has pissed me off often enough for me to attempt to jump ship, but there's just nowhere to go. (I'm aware of Orion, but when I last used it I found it to still have performance and polish issues)
    - altano 4y ago
      Sadly the 1Password extension doesn't really work on Orion (no inline autofill and very long UI delays)
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tyingq 4y ago
>EDIT: How do I break sentences to newline in HN without really making a new paragraph? You know, for bullet points, etc. Blank line / new paragraph is really the only option. Short bullet points might look better with the "code" option of preceding with two spaces, like: - this - that But long lines in that format force horizontal scrolling for some mobile users. https://news.ycombinator.com/formatdoc https://news.ycombinator.com/formatdoc
for1nner 4y ago
I find multi-account-containers* incredibly useful re: tab groups. Coupled with a few pinned tabs (email), I generally always know where to look for what when I have the browser open. *https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/multi-account-containers/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/multi-account...
- GekkePrutser 4y ago
  Yeah this is an amazing feature. I never understood why they moved it to an addon. As part of the browser itself it would be easier to use.
  - stop50 4y ago
    There are a few addons that use the builtin feature.
gmiller123456 4y ago
>Tab groups Please no. I actually switched to Firefox on mobile just because I couldn't get tab groups to stay disabled in Chrome.
- kactus 4y ago
  What do you dislike about tab groups? Or is Chrome's implementation on mobile not good? I think the current design is ugly. The way Edge handles them in the vertical tabs sidebar looks a lot better than the way other Chromium derivatives handle them in the tab strip, but still not the best. I like Vivaldi's implementation better, but the UI is relatively laggy. I miss old Opera.
  - gmiller123456 4y ago
    Been long enough that I don't really remember the details, but I found it a lot harder to find what I was looking for.
  - solarkraft 4y ago
    I find them unpredictable. I don't know when something will open in a new group, I don't know how I can move a tab out of/into a group. I find it to be kind of a mess. And of course it was shoved at me without even asking whether I want it. (Thanks in advance for the solution. I mostly use Firefox anyway)
brasic 4y ago
Chrome has a native reader mode as well, it’s just feature flagged off for some reason: https://knowtechie.com/how-to-enable-google-chrome-reader-mode/ https://knowtechie.com/how-to-enable-google-chrome-reader-mo...
- b112 4y ago
  Probably, because there are no ads there.
cm2187 4y ago
Also unblockable contextual menus (by pressing SHIFT). But on the downside no translate tool (though I read it is coming).
- m-p-3 4y ago
  https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/addon/firefox-translations/ https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/addon/firefox-translation... Operates entirely offline.
- cfjgvjh 4y ago
  The tool is already out and works pretty okay for the supported languages. (At least enough for me to find the page I'm looking for.) Bonus points for it being offline. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/firefox-translations/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/firefox-trans...
loloquwowndueo 4y ago
If you need tab groups and tab search, you’re using tabs wrong. Bookmarks exist for that purpose and they do have search and grouping (folders). Coworkers look at me like I’m a freak because I usually keep fewer than 10 tabs open :)
- Georgelemental 4y ago
  Both have their use, I prefer bookmarks for separating tasks, and tab trees for organizing information I am actively using within a task.
- lamacase 4y ago
  Ok, great idea. Now we just need an extension that auto-bookmarks every newly opened page until I unbookmark it, and a category of "super-bookmarks" to curate the pages I would manually bookmark now.
- layer8 4y ago
  > I usually keep fewer than 10 tabs open Same here, and I don’t even use bookmarks! History and custom search shortcuts are enough.
- xyzzy_plugh 4y ago
  No. Tab groups are great, they allow you to bundle context but persist it front and center. On a given day I might be working on five different things, I context switch between tab groups, make some progress within a group, and move along. Bookmarks absolutely do not solve this issue. Bookmarks are not ephemeral, and take considerably more time to organize than simply using tabs naturally.
  - hansel_der 4y ago
    strong agree maybe sometime will come the realisation that a tab, a bookmark and a history entry are basically the same
- kretaceous 4y ago
  > Coworkers look at me like I’m a freak because I usually keep fewer than 10 tabs open :) Haha! That's me. My maximum is 15 and then my cleanliness ghost kicks in. I said tab groups because I like organization even if it's just 10 tabs. I honestly don't know why I said tab search.
_Algernon_ 4y ago
I want to see extensions which change how the user interacts with the browser (eg. Vimium or gesturify) work on browser internal pages such as settings, extensions or reader view. I know its not going to happen because "security".
agumonkey 4y ago
seconded, all of your list
snthd 4y ago
>Native reader mode The unremovable "floating" controls are visually distracting.
yonrg 4y ago
Sideberry is a great addon for tab tree, grouping and container mgmt. Tab search, keybinds, and many many other handy stuff, can be done in vimperator.
bzxcvbn 4y ago
Not sure this will resonate with everyone, but Edge has both of these features built-in :).
- kretaceous 4y ago
  It definitely does with me. I used Edge when I was using Windows and I liked it! I went back to Windows after almost 2 years for work and MS has managed to bloat it too. Don't understand why I need a Math solver. Edge bar is annoying. Favorites and bookmarks are 2 separate things? I turned them all off obviously but defaults matter.
  - just_for_you 4y ago
    I went from disliking Edge, to liking it, and then slowly disliking it again as they added bloat to it. What turned me off from it was when I lost a year's worth of (unimportant) bookmarks and history. One day I opened it up and it decided to kindly sign me in automatically (probably detected I was signed into an MS site in-browser), and it wanted to automatically sync all my history, auto-fill info and passwords to Microsoft's sync servers. I immediately disconnected my account to stop this, and then it deleted my Edge profile afterwards as a further courtesy. I understand that these two behaviors are probably Features, but I don't like the feeling of losing control of my software. And now these features like MSFT Rewards, coupon services, credit card services, and the "Bing Bar" (or whatever you call it) are just too much for me. Not to mention every PC I use Edge on tends to assault my eyes with political propaganda since Edge's New Tab page defaults to biased news outlets.
  - joveian 4y ago
    If you mean a basic calculator in the URL bar, Firefox has that too (also a simple units converter) but off by default. They do that because people use search engines for that kind of stuff. The implementation (at least the Firefox one) is quite simple. browser.urlbar.suggest.calculator browser.urlbar.unitConversion.enabled
- xLink 4y ago
  Edge is just another Chrome clone at this point.
ichik 4y ago
There is tab search (and history, and bookmarks for that matter) from the address bar (i.e. typing `% foo` will search all tabs for `foo`). I don't know if it's turned on by default, but you can set it up from “Search shortcuts” settings section.
banana_giraffe 4y ago
For what it's worth, Chrome has a reader mode, just hidden behind an experimental flag, and a native PiP mode for videos, accessible with the media controls icon that appear when a video is playing.
pure_simplicity 4y ago
Tab groups and search are there in the form of this excellent extension. Not native, but so well integrated that it may as well be.
- pure_simplicity 4y ago
  https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/simple-tab-groups/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/simple-tab-gr...
Tagbert 4y ago
I use Panorama Tab Groups. It lets me create groups of tabs (obviously) for each project. Each project has 10-20 tabs and I can quickly switch between them. It means that most times, I only have 10-20 tabs visible. Makes things much easier to navigate and keep track of.
alterneesh 4y ago
Regarding tab groups, there's two things that I've found that seems to have solved my requirements: - Workona (this is an extension for chrome) - Arc (https://thebrowser.company/ https://thebrowser.company/) Both essentially have the idea of "spaces" for web browsers.
ikurei 4y ago
> Yes, you can get extensions for this in Chrom(e/ium) but having these as a native feature is really nice. I've been using Brave for a while and I'm considering going back to FF, partly to get out of Chromium. However, this is a point I don't get. What do I care if these features are native or plug-ins? My Brave plugins are synced, so whenever I install Brave and set it up I immediately. If the plugin is well done, there is no difference, and for people who don't care about that particular feature it could be less bloat to have it on a feature. Specifically for the Reader mode, the Chromium Addon I use comes from the Firefox code for the same functionality, so it's just as good. Kudos to FF, OSS is awesome.
- stevage 4y ago
  Amongst other issues, extensions have a habit of turning into malware.
QuantumGood 4y ago
Hacker News text formatting news.ycombinator.com/formatdoc/ Blank lines separate paragraphs. Text surrounded by asterisks is italicized. To get a literal asterisk, use * or *. Text after a blank line that is indented by two or more spaces is reproduced verbatim. (This is intended for code.) Urls become links, except in the text field of a submission. If your url gets linked incorrectly, put it in <angle brackets> and it should work. Alt-7 on the number pad give you a bullet "•", Alt-0151 an em dash "—"
uoaei 4y ago
I break up my tab groups into separate windows (by subject matter) and that seems to work great.
heavyset_go 4y ago
The address bar searches open tabs by default.
hawski 4y ago
Simple Tab Groups is how tab groups should have been done in Firefox from the start. I think if they would be like that they would not have to rip them out. Tab search or rather filtering is included and is such a splendid addition. Also automatic backup of groups is a fine feature, but so far I only needed to use it for migration. https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/addon/simple-tab-groups/ https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/addon/simple-tab-groups/
- contravariant 4y ago
  I'd like to add that it combines very nicely with Gesturefy, defining a couple of mouse gestures to switch between tab groups (either through a small popup or switching moving back/forth) is what got me to actually use the tab groups meaningfully.
tomxor 4y ago
> Native reader mode This fixes most of the links on HN for me - I'm one of those people who doesn't like the browser to save anything, so every time I visit a site it's for the first time - so anyway reader mode just cuts right through all the shit in one click, no cookie banners, no subscribe banners, no interruption banners, it gets straight to the content if it's there (sometimes even cuts through shallow front end paywalls) - honestly if the site looks horrible and reader mode doesn't work, close tab - can't be arsed. It also makes far better use of screen space than most site designs, e.g those common yet horrible headers with css position: sticky. Pretty much every big news site is made better by pulling any content into reader mode.
slowmovintarget 4y ago
Tab search in FF: Type a percent sign and a space in the address bar, your search is now on tabs. % - Tab search ^ - History search * - Bookmark search
- asxd 4y ago
  Holy cow, it's true. Never knew that, thanks so much for sharing.
  - abnercoimbre 4y ago
    Just agreeing here. It's a game changer.
- autoexec 4y ago
  I wish they also had a way to search tabs without the address bar. I insist that address bars act solely as address bars so I've disabled all other features from it including search.
  - slowmovintarget 4y ago
    It's the CLI component. Thank goodness your insistence is a preference no one else has to live with.
    - autoexec 4y ago
      Even a CLI shouldn't be making internet connections automatically or unpredictably. If my terminal had the option to send my keystrokes to some sever for autocomplete suggestions (and market research) or did things like automatically append parts of URLs to what I type by guessing at what I wanted I'd disable that too.
longnguyen 4y ago
Native reader mode is fantastic! The underlying parser (readability) works great. Shameless plug: I use Readability to parse web articles and send it directly to Kindle: https://ktool.io https://ktool.io
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Abishek_Muthian 4y ago
I'm typing this from a desktop Firefox on PostmarketOS in Poco F1 smartphone, I love it. Especially since I have to rely upon the browser for most 3rd party services due to the lack of a proper Linux client. But running Firefox on Linux mobile has largely been a community effort, I wish Mozilla realizes the need-gap and invests in official Linux smartphone version. But I'm actively moving away from 3rd party extensions in FF as I found a recommended extension promoting anti-vaccine agenda[1], The only extensions I use now are ub & Multi-account containers. I would prefer if FF integrated them by default and thorough reviews for recommended extensions. [1] https://web.archive.org/web/20210924045611/https://github.com/ken107/read-aloud/issues/232 https://web.archive.org/web/20210924045611/https://github.co...
michaelcampbell 4y ago
One irritation I have with FF is its confoundingly difficult way to add arbitrary "search engines" with a keyword. eg: I want to just type `r subreddit` and have it expande to `https://reddit.com/r/subreddit https://reddit.com/r/subreddit`. You can DO it, but natively if FF doesn't "see" the URL as a search (so it doesn't provide the 'add search engine' option in the search bar right-click) it's overly hard to accomplish. Had to install a plugin, and/or hope project Mycroft has it.
atulsnj 4y ago
Also add a robust Translation in browser.
raxxorraxor 4y ago
> Good/extensible keybindings Really wondering why this is so neglected in all browsers. I know quite a few users that like to accidentally press CTRL + T when trying to write a capital T after sitting 2h on a site to put in some info. It is good that browsers grow more sceptical of sites capturing hotkeys, but some sites really benefit from the question if you really want to leave that page. As far as I know this is the only long-term supported solution. Restoring tab might work but not on all sites. two leading spaces changes text to code formatting perhaps lines are closer together here.

jackosdev 4y ago

If you're into Vim, this is a fantastic extension for keybindings: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tridactyl-vim/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tridactyl-vim...

kretaceous 4y ago
I should be clear. What I was referring to when I said `keybindings` is browser/developer keybindings that are not yet made configurable. There's been an open issue for 7 years asking for a shortcut key for the eyedropper[0]. The navigation between developer panels is also a bit tedious. The page focus key, F6, is not configurable. These are some instances I was thinking when I said I wanted good keybinding support. I'll be really willing to try an extension that achieves these but it's really the browser's job. With that said, I've tried a bunch of these extensions in the past! I'm not a vim guy so I settled with Link Hints[1] for in-page navigation. I cannot recommend it enough for non-vim guys. It's really underrated. 0: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1177108 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1177108 1: https://lydell.github.io/LinkHints/ https://lydell.github.io/LinkHints/
- 5e92cb50239222b 4y ago
  > focus key, F6 JFYI, Alt+D and Ctrl+L also work.
  - kretaceous 4y ago
    These only focus the address bar, no? I want the other way round. I want to focus the page when the focus is outside it, like the address bar.
- the_pwner224 4y ago
  Thanks for the mention of F6, I had been looking for a page focus key for a while to restore focus after switching to the address bar. I've discovered that "ctrl-f esc" also works; focus goes back to the page when the search bar closes. Convenient if you have capslock remapped to escape.

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chrismorgan 4y ago

> Good/extensible keybindings https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/manage-extension-shortcuts-firefox https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/manage-extension-shortc... is a little hidden, but gives you at least some flexibility. > Tab search https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/search-open-tabs-firefox https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/search-open-tabs-firefo..., I use % in the address bar very regularly.

kretaceous 4y ago
> I use % in the address bar very regularly. I use * for bookmarks and ^ for history but have never known about this. :) Thanks! And yes, I do use extension shortcuts. Can't imagine my life without Bitwarden or Tab Stash keybindings. See https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1177108 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1177108 to know what I actually meant.

dmytrish 4y ago

Tree Style Tabs solved the tab grouping problem for me. I like to put it on the right and I'm looking for a way to have the tab bar hidden. Tab search exists: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/search-open-tabs-firefox https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/search-open-tabs-firefo..., also you type % into the address bar to start searching over tabs. Not sure if this covers your needs, though.

andrepd 4y ago
As a power user of side tabs, I have switched to Sideberry from TST.
Kaze404 4y ago
You can hide the tab bar through userstyles css. It can't be done from Firefox itself unfortunately, but once you set it up you never have to do it again.
timerol 4y ago
When I saw the title of this article, I assumed it had to be about Tree Style Tags. No other browser feature has so immediately become a feature I must have so quickly. Privacy and ad-blocking are great, but I could see myself being lazy and switching to a browser with a better UX, if one existed. But you'll have to take Tree Style Tabs from my cold, dead hands
- solarkraft 4y ago
  It's pretty much the only reason I'm staying with Firefox. Mozilla has pissed me off often enough for me to attempt to jump ship, but there's just nowhere to go. (I'm aware of Orion, but when I last used it I found it to still have performance and polish issues)
  - altano 4y ago
    Sadly the 1Password extension doesn't really work on Orion (no inline autofill and very long UI delays)
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tyingq 4y ago

>EDIT: How do I break sentences to newline in HN without really making a new paragraph? You know, for bullet points, etc. Blank line / new paragraph is really the only option. Short bullet points might look better with the "code" option of preceding with two spaces, like: - this - that But long lines in that format force horizontal scrolling for some mobile users. https://news.ycombinator.com/formatdoc https://news.ycombinator.com/formatdoc

for1nner 4y ago

I find multi-account-containers* incredibly useful re: tab groups. Coupled with a few pinned tabs (email), I generally always know where to look for what when I have the browser open. *https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/multi-account-containers/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/multi-account...

GekkePrutser 4y ago
Yeah this is an amazing feature. I never understood why they moved it to an addon. As part of the browser itself it would be easier to use.
- stop50 4y ago
  There are a few addons that use the builtin feature.

gmiller123456 4y ago

>Tab groups Please no. I actually switched to Firefox on mobile just because I couldn't get tab groups to stay disabled in Chrome.

kactus 4y ago
What do you dislike about tab groups? Or is Chrome's implementation on mobile not good? I think the current design is ugly. The way Edge handles them in the vertical tabs sidebar looks a lot better than the way other Chromium derivatives handle them in the tab strip, but still not the best. I like Vivaldi's implementation better, but the UI is relatively laggy. I miss old Opera.
- gmiller123456 4y ago
  Been long enough that I don't really remember the details, but I found it a lot harder to find what I was looking for.
- solarkraft 4y ago
  I find them unpredictable. I don't know when something will open in a new group, I don't know how I can move a tab out of/into a group. I find it to be kind of a mess. And of course it was shoved at me without even asking whether I want it. (Thanks in advance for the solution. I mostly use Firefox anyway)

brasic 4y ago

Chrome has a native reader mode as well, it’s just feature flagged off for some reason: https://knowtechie.com/how-to-enable-google-chrome-reader-mode/ https://knowtechie.com/how-to-enable-google-chrome-reader-mo...

b112 4y ago
Probably, because there are no ads there.

cm2187 4y ago

Also unblockable contextual menus (by pressing SHIFT). But on the downside no translate tool (though I read it is coming).

m-p-3 4y ago
https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/addon/firefox-translations/ https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/addon/firefox-translation... Operates entirely offline.
cfjgvjh 4y ago
The tool is already out and works pretty okay for the supported languages. (At least enough for me to find the page I'm looking for.) Bonus points for it being offline. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/firefox-translations/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/firefox-trans...

loloquwowndueo 4y ago

If you need tab groups and tab search, you’re using tabs wrong. Bookmarks exist for that purpose and they do have search and grouping (folders). Coworkers look at me like I’m a freak because I usually keep fewer than 10 tabs open :)

Georgelemental 4y ago
Both have their use, I prefer bookmarks for separating tasks, and tab trees for organizing information I am actively using within a task.
lamacase 4y ago
Ok, great idea. Now we just need an extension that auto-bookmarks every newly opened page until I unbookmark it, and a category of "super-bookmarks" to curate the pages I would manually bookmark now.
layer8 4y ago
> I usually keep fewer than 10 tabs open Same here, and I don’t even use bookmarks! History and custom search shortcuts are enough.
xyzzy_plugh 4y ago
No. Tab groups are great, they allow you to bundle context but persist it front and center. On a given day I might be working on five different things, I context switch between tab groups, make some progress within a group, and move along. Bookmarks absolutely do not solve this issue. Bookmarks are not ephemeral, and take considerably more time to organize than simply using tabs naturally.
- hansel_der 4y ago
  strong agree maybe sometime will come the realisation that a tab, a bookmark and a history entry are basically the same
kretaceous 4y ago
> Coworkers look at me like I’m a freak because I usually keep fewer than 10 tabs open :) Haha! That's me. My maximum is 15 and then my cleanliness ghost kicks in. I said tab groups because I like organization even if it's just 10 tabs. I honestly don't know why I said tab search.

_Algernon_ 4y ago

I want to see extensions which change how the user interacts with the browser (eg. Vimium or gesturify) work on browser internal pages such as settings, extensions or reader view. I know its not going to happen because "security".

agumonkey 4y ago

seconded, all of your list

snthd 4y ago

>Native reader mode The unremovable "floating" controls are visually distracting.

yonrg 4y ago

Sideberry is a great addon for tab tree, grouping and container mgmt. Tab search, keybinds, and many many other handy stuff, can be done in vimperator.

bzxcvbn 4y ago

Not sure this will resonate with everyone, but Edge has both of these features built-in :).

kretaceous 4y ago
It definitely does with me. I used Edge when I was using Windows and I liked it! I went back to Windows after almost 2 years for work and MS has managed to bloat it too. Don't understand why I need a Math solver. Edge bar is annoying. Favorites and bookmarks are 2 separate things? I turned them all off obviously but defaults matter.
- just_for_you 4y ago
  I went from disliking Edge, to liking it, and then slowly disliking it again as they added bloat to it. What turned me off from it was when I lost a year's worth of (unimportant) bookmarks and history. One day I opened it up and it decided to kindly sign me in automatically (probably detected I was signed into an MS site in-browser), and it wanted to automatically sync all my history, auto-fill info and passwords to Microsoft's sync servers. I immediately disconnected my account to stop this, and then it deleted my Edge profile afterwards as a further courtesy. I understand that these two behaviors are probably Features, but I don't like the feeling of losing control of my software. And now these features like MSFT Rewards, coupon services, credit card services, and the "Bing Bar" (or whatever you call it) are just too much for me. Not to mention every PC I use Edge on tends to assault my eyes with political propaganda since Edge's New Tab page defaults to biased news outlets.
- joveian 4y ago
  If you mean a basic calculator in the URL bar, Firefox has that too (also a simple units converter) but off by default. They do that because people use search engines for that kind of stuff. The implementation (at least the Firefox one) is quite simple. browser.urlbar.suggest.calculator browser.urlbar.unitConversion.enabled
xLink 4y ago
Edge is just another Chrome clone at this point.

ichik 4y ago

There is tab search (and history, and bookmarks for that matter) from the address bar (i.e. typing `% foo` will search all tabs for `foo`). I don't know if it's turned on by default, but you can set it up from “Search shortcuts” settings section.

banana_giraffe 4y ago

For what it's worth, Chrome has a reader mode, just hidden behind an experimental flag, and a native PiP mode for videos, accessible with the media controls icon that appear when a video is playing.

pure_simplicity 4y ago

Tab groups and search are there in the form of this excellent extension. Not native, but so well integrated that it may as well be.

pure_simplicity 4y ago
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/simple-tab-groups/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/simple-tab-gr...

Tagbert 4y ago

I use Panorama Tab Groups. It lets me create groups of tabs (obviously) for each project. Each project has 10-20 tabs and I can quickly switch between them. It means that most times, I only have 10-20 tabs visible. Makes things much easier to navigate and keep track of.

alterneesh 4y ago

Regarding tab groups, there's two things that I've found that seems to have solved my requirements: - Workona (this is an extension for chrome) - Arc (https://thebrowser.company/ https://thebrowser.company/) Both essentially have the idea of "spaces" for web browsers.

ikurei 4y ago

> Yes, you can get extensions for this in Chrom(e/ium) but having these as a native feature is really nice. I've been using Brave for a while and I'm considering going back to FF, partly to get out of Chromium. However, this is a point I don't get. What do I care if these features are native or plug-ins? My Brave plugins are synced, so whenever I install Brave and set it up I immediately. If the plugin is well done, there is no difference, and for people who don't care about that particular feature it could be less bloat to have it on a feature. Specifically for the Reader mode, the Chromium Addon I use comes from the Firefox code for the same functionality, so it's just as good. Kudos to FF, OSS is awesome.

stevage 4y ago
Amongst other issues, extensions have a habit of turning into malware.

QuantumGood 4y ago

Hacker News text formatting news.ycombinator.com/formatdoc/ Blank lines separate paragraphs. Text surrounded by asterisks is italicized. To get a literal asterisk, use * or *. Text after a blank line that is indented by two or more spaces is reproduced verbatim. (This is intended for code.) Urls become links, except in the text field of a submission. If your url gets linked incorrectly, put it in <angle brackets> and it should work. Alt-7 on the number pad give you a bullet "•", Alt-0151 an em dash "—"

uoaei 4y ago

I break up my tab groups into separate windows (by subject matter) and that seems to work great.

heavyset_go 4y ago

The address bar searches open tabs by default.

hawski 4y ago

Simple Tab Groups is how tab groups should have been done in Firefox from the start. I think if they would be like that they would not have to rip them out. Tab search or rather filtering is included and is such a splendid addition. Also automatic backup of groups is a fine feature, but so far I only needed to use it for migration. https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/addon/simple-tab-groups/ https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/addon/simple-tab-groups/

contravariant 4y ago
I'd like to add that it combines very nicely with Gesturefy, defining a couple of mouse gestures to switch between tab groups (either through a small popup or switching moving back/forth) is what got me to actually use the tab groups meaningfully.

tomxor 4y ago

> Native reader mode This fixes most of the links on HN for me - I'm one of those people who doesn't like the browser to save anything, so every time I visit a site it's for the first time - so anyway reader mode just cuts right through all the shit in one click, no cookie banners, no subscribe banners, no interruption banners, it gets straight to the content if it's there (sometimes even cuts through shallow front end paywalls) - honestly if the site looks horrible and reader mode doesn't work, close tab - can't be arsed. It also makes far better use of screen space than most site designs, e.g those common yet horrible headers with css position: sticky. Pretty much every big news site is made better by pulling any content into reader mode.

slowmovintarget 4y ago

Tab search in FF: Type a percent sign and a space in the address bar, your search is now on tabs. % - Tab search ^ - History search * - Bookmark search

asxd 4y ago
Holy cow, it's true. Never knew that, thanks so much for sharing.
- abnercoimbre 4y ago
  Just agreeing here. It's a game changer.
autoexec 4y ago
I wish they also had a way to search tabs without the address bar. I insist that address bars act solely as address bars so I've disabled all other features from it including search.
- slowmovintarget 4y ago
  It's the CLI component. Thank goodness your insistence is a preference no one else has to live with.
  - autoexec 4y ago
    Even a CLI shouldn't be making internet connections automatically or unpredictably. If my terminal had the option to send my keystrokes to some sever for autocomplete suggestions (and market research) or did things like automatically append parts of URLs to what I type by guessing at what I wanted I'd disable that too.

longnguyen 4y ago

Native reader mode is fantastic! The underlying parser (readability) works great. Shameless plug: I use Readability to parse web articles and send it directly to Kindle: https://ktool.io https://ktool.io

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Abishek_Muthian 4y ago

I'm typing this from a desktop Firefox on PostmarketOS in Poco F1 smartphone, I love it. Especially since I have to rely upon the browser for most 3rd party services due to the lack of a proper Linux client. But running Firefox on Linux mobile has largely been a community effort, I wish Mozilla realizes the need-gap and invests in official Linux smartphone version. But I'm actively moving away from 3rd party extensions in FF as I found a recommended extension promoting anti-vaccine agenda[1], The only extensions I use now are ub & Multi-account containers. I would prefer if FF integrated them by default and thorough reviews for recommended extensions. [1] https://web.archive.org/web/20210924045611/https://github.com/ken107/read-aloud/issues/232 https://web.archive.org/web/20210924045611/https://github.co...

michaelcampbell 4y ago

One irritation I have with FF is its confoundingly difficult way to add arbitrary "search engines" with a keyword. eg: I want to just type `r subreddit` and have it expande to `https://reddit.com/r/subreddit https://reddit.com/r/subreddit`. You can DO it, but natively if FF doesn't "see" the URL as a search (so it doesn't provide the 'add search engine' option in the search bar right-click) it's overly hard to accomplish. Had to install a plugin, and/or hope project Mycroft has it.

atulsnj 4y ago

Also add a robust Translation in browser.

raxxorraxor 4y ago

> Good/extensible keybindings Really wondering why this is so neglected in all browsers. I know quite a few users that like to accidentally press CTRL + T when trying to write a capital T after sitting 2h on a site to put in some info. It is good that browsers grow more sceptical of sites capturing hotkeys, but some sites really benefit from the question if you really want to leave that page. As far as I know this is the only long-term supported solution. Restoring tab might work but not on all sites. two leading spaces changes text to code formatting perhaps lines are closer together here.