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That pretty much sums up my view point. I really don't understand much of what is going on (who really does honestly?), but I certainly know I can't trust anyon

That pretty much sums up my view point. I really don't understand much of what is going on (who really does honestly?), but I certainly know I can't trust anyone involved in this clusterfuck.

timr 18y ago
What's really interesting about this is (IMO) is that the Republicans are the ones largely responsible for the failure. The president's own party is revolting against him.
- timr 18y ago
  It's a factually true statement, folks. Check the vote counts, and you'll see that it went down along party lines, with Republicans in the majority of the 'no' votes. In fact, over 67% of House Republicans voted against the bill. The White House lobbied heavily for the measure, and the Republicans in the House shot it down. That's interesting.
  - Prrometheus 18y ago
    Republicans in the House of Representatives have been the most Conservative caucus in any branch of government for at least the past few decades.
- mnemonik 18y ago
  Perhaps they were gambling that enough dems would vote for it (because of the scare tactics of reading out the dows stock starting to crash right before the vote) so that it would pass, and later when the bailout became the political failure it was destined to become they could point to dems as responsible. American voters have a very short memory, and few check facts. I'm sure that the fact that this is so closely connected to Bush could be forgotten with an excellent mudslinging campaign. Then the Repubs would be able to take seats in the next congressional round of elections.
- pragmatic 18y ago
  When you say the failure do you mean the failure to pass the bill (which is correct) or the failure of the financial institutions? House Republicans are the only group that are (fiscally) conservative anymore.
  - rrhyne 18y ago
    Uh, we started this administration with a Budget surplus, and now we are more in debt than ever. How exactly is that fiscally conservative? Not saying democrats are, but if that statment it ever was true, is definitely myth now.
    - nradov 18y ago
      There was no budget surplus when the current administration started. It only looked like a surplus if you ignored many of the real financial obligations.

That pretty much sums up my view point. I really don't understand much of what is going on (who really does honestly?), but I certainly know I can't trust anyone involved in this clusterfuck.

timr 18y ago

What's really interesting about this is (IMO) is that the Republicans are the ones largely responsible for the failure. The president's own party is revolting against him.

timr 18y ago
It's a factually true statement, folks. Check the vote counts, and you'll see that it went down along party lines, with Republicans in the majority of the 'no' votes. In fact, over 67% of House Republicans voted against the bill. The White House lobbied heavily for the measure, and the Republicans in the House shot it down. That's interesting.
- Prrometheus 18y ago
  Republicans in the House of Representatives have been the most Conservative caucus in any branch of government for at least the past few decades.
mnemonik 18y ago
Perhaps they were gambling that enough dems would vote for it (because of the scare tactics of reading out the dows stock starting to crash right before the vote) so that it would pass, and later when the bailout became the political failure it was destined to become they could point to dems as responsible. American voters have a very short memory, and few check facts. I'm sure that the fact that this is so closely connected to Bush could be forgotten with an excellent mudslinging campaign. Then the Repubs would be able to take seats in the next congressional round of elections.
pragmatic 18y ago
When you say the failure do you mean the failure to pass the bill (which is correct) or the failure of the financial institutions? House Republicans are the only group that are (fiscally) conservative anymore.
- rrhyne 18y ago
  Uh, we started this administration with a Budget surplus, and now we are more in debt than ever. How exactly is that fiscally conservative? Not saying democrats are, but if that statment it ever was true, is definitely myth now.
  - nradov 18y ago
    There was no budget surplus when the current administration started. It only looked like a surplus if you ignored many of the real financial obligations.