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From rogue employees or management?

by cassac 4y ago

mauvehaus 4y ago
Yes. And for the love of god (any of them really), could we please get Gwynne Shotwell to take over Elon Musk's twitter account and run it with the competence, diligence, and care with which she's been running SpaceX?
- throwaway5959 4y ago
  I really wish she got more attention.
  - panick21_ 4y ago
    She gets lots of attention. She is speaker at lots of events, has been on TV many times, has received awards and is universally known by anybody who knows anything about space. The only reason people keep saying that is because Musk is basically one of the most famous people alive and thus gets absurdly more attention then here. Shotwell is much better known then pretty much every president of any other space company.
    - throwaway5959 4y ago
      I misspoke. I should have said credit instead of attention.
      - bpodgursky 4y ago
        If it makes you feel better, she's going to make many billions of dollars if SpaceX continues at anywhere near its current (orbital) trajectory. (which is worth quite a bit of credit imo)
    - dotnet00 4y ago
      To be fair, most people couldn't name even one executive of a space company except Musk and Bezos. Shotwell has gotten a lot of professional recognition and is well respected by people into spaceflight, but feels like she doesn't get enough of it in more general circles, even though she makes for an amazing role model.
    - adastra22 4y ago
      Maybe not more than Tory Bruno.
- mlindner 4y ago
  Shotwell explicitly said several times (starting from many years ago) that she won't use twitter. Also while Shotwell is a wonderful and competent president with a great business acumen. She doesn't have a lot of engineering vision for what things should be. SpaceX is kind of dual-run by Shotwell and Elon Musk. He drives forward and pushes forward with crazy ideas and then when they're semi-marketable he hands off the project to Shotwell to clean things up and prune out some of the economics. For example Starlink was Elon driven up until early 2020 or so, after they'd already started selling to customers, after which it was handed off to Shotwell.
  - panick21_ 4y ago
    Its not just hand off. They are both involved all the time. Musk doesnt just hand of projects. He continues to work on iterations and so on. And Shotwell is involved from the beginning of each project as well. People that keep pushing idea as if there were 2 SpaceX but in reality there is close cooperation from begin to end.
    - mlindner 4y ago
      I was going off of what Shotwell herself said. https://interactive.satellitetoday.com/via/may-2021/a-conversation-with-gwynne-shotwell-2020-satellite-executive-of-the-year/ https://interactive.satellitetoday.com/via/may-2021/a-conver... Perhaps my interpretation is incorrect, but what I wrote above is what I read out of this (and other interviews). > Shotwell: The way Elon and I share the load, he focuses on development. He's still very highly engaged in the day-to-day operations, but his focus is on development. He was the lead on Starlink, and I started shifting my focus to Starlink around late spring, early summer of last year. [Interview done in early 2021.] Elon’s focus in that time was moving to Starship, that is his primary focus at SpaceX. It doesn't mean he's not thinking about the company on a day-to-day basis, but his emphasis is to get the Starship program to orbit. > The thing about Starship is, we know how to design rockets and fly rockets. What we have failed to do to date is to design and fly a rocket that is easily producible and fully reusable. It's still hard to produce a Falcon 9. It's a lot of work and it's very expensive. The focus for Starship is to make it highly producible, highly reliable, and 100 percent operationally reusable, both for the first and second stage. That's hard.
- assttoasstmgr 4y ago
  Is the end game to make Twitter a boring Victorian tea party? Controversy and perversion generate clicks and attention. Without those, Twitter would be out of business.
  - lmm 4y ago
    If twitter can only stay in business through controversy and perversion, maybe it shouldn't.
tick_tock_tick 4y ago
"rogue employees" are a much bigger issue right now with vague demands and bike shedding stalling progress. Obviously if Musk lost his interest in space flight that could very possibly be a death knell for the company but that doesn't seem very likely right now.
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Pakdef 4y ago
From Musk

From rogue employees or management?

by cassac 4y ago

From rogue employees or management?

Yes. And for the love of god (any of them really), could we please get Gwynne Shotwell to take over Elon Musk's twitter account and run it with the competence, diligence, and care with which she's been running SpaceX?

throwaway5959 4y ago
I really wish she got more attention.
- panick21_ 4y ago
  She gets lots of attention. She is speaker at lots of events, has been on TV many times, has received awards and is universally known by anybody who knows anything about space. The only reason people keep saying that is because Musk is basically one of the most famous people alive and thus gets absurdly more attention then here. Shotwell is much better known then pretty much every president of any other space company.
  - throwaway5959 4y ago
    I misspoke. I should have said credit instead of attention.
    - bpodgursky 4y ago
      If it makes you feel better, she's going to make many billions of dollars if SpaceX continues at anywhere near its current (orbital) trajectory. (which is worth quite a bit of credit imo)
  - dotnet00 4y ago
    To be fair, most people couldn't name even one executive of a space company except Musk and Bezos. Shotwell has gotten a lot of professional recognition and is well respected by people into spaceflight, but feels like she doesn't get enough of it in more general circles, even though she makes for an amazing role model.
  - adastra22 4y ago
    Maybe not more than Tory Bruno.
mlindner 4y ago
Shotwell explicitly said several times (starting from many years ago) that she won't use twitter. Also while Shotwell is a wonderful and competent president with a great business acumen. She doesn't have a lot of engineering vision for what things should be. SpaceX is kind of dual-run by Shotwell and Elon Musk. He drives forward and pushes forward with crazy ideas and then when they're semi-marketable he hands off the project to Shotwell to clean things up and prune out some of the economics. For example Starlink was Elon driven up until early 2020 or so, after they'd already started selling to customers, after which it was handed off to Shotwell.
- panick21_ 4y ago
  Its not just hand off. They are both involved all the time. Musk doesnt just hand of projects. He continues to work on iterations and so on. And Shotwell is involved from the beginning of each project as well. People that keep pushing idea as if there were 2 SpaceX but in reality there is close cooperation from begin to end.
  - mlindner 4y ago
    I was going off of what Shotwell herself said. https://interactive.satellitetoday.com/via/may-2021/a-conversation-with-gwynne-shotwell-2020-satellite-executive-of-the-year/ https://interactive.satellitetoday.com/via/may-2021/a-conver... Perhaps my interpretation is incorrect, but what I wrote above is what I read out of this (and other interviews). > Shotwell: The way Elon and I share the load, he focuses on development. He's still very highly engaged in the day-to-day operations, but his focus is on development. He was the lead on Starlink, and I started shifting my focus to Starlink around late spring, early summer of last year. [Interview done in early 2021.] Elon’s focus in that time was moving to Starship, that is his primary focus at SpaceX. It doesn't mean he's not thinking about the company on a day-to-day basis, but his emphasis is to get the Starship program to orbit. > The thing about Starship is, we know how to design rockets and fly rockets. What we have failed to do to date is to design and fly a rocket that is easily producible and fully reusable. It's still hard to produce a Falcon 9. It's a lot of work and it's very expensive. The focus for Starship is to make it highly producible, highly reliable, and 100 percent operationally reusable, both for the first and second stage. That's hard.
assttoasstmgr 4y ago
Is the end game to make Twitter a boring Victorian tea party? Controversy and perversion generate clicks and attention. Without those, Twitter would be out of business.
- lmm 4y ago
  If twitter can only stay in business through controversy and perversion, maybe it shouldn't.

tick_tock_tick 4y ago

"rogue employees" are a much bigger issue right now with vague demands and bike shedding stalling progress. Obviously if Musk lost his interest in space flight that could very possibly be a death knell for the company but that doesn't seem very likely right now.

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Pakdef 4y ago

From Musk