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Lofi.co – Relax and Focus
- cultofmetatron 4y agoas someone who is currently subscribed to both endel AND brainfm AND has several lofi playlists on spotify, you need to work on your onboarding process. first I had to navigate several tutorial screens and then I have to sign in just to hear music? You're going to lose a lot of signups. You need to make the music available asap so that I can see what I'm buying into. even taking the time to fill out another signup form is an investment.
- carlgreene 4y agoI definitely did not have to sign up to listen to music. Took a few more clicks than I’d like but still was able to hear stuff within 5-10 seconds
- brendoelfrendo 4y agoThere's an "x" in the top right on the sign-in screen that lets you bypass the sign up process and use the service logged out. I'm with you, though, that I almost closed the tab when prompted to sign in; I don't really see the need to make an account until and unless I want to be a premium user.
- niemenmaa 4y agoSome music starting to play in background would definitely be great. Btw, I just tried both endel and brainfm and both required me to sign up before i could listen to any music.
- cultofmetatron 4y agomaybe something changed but back when I signed up for them both, I'd listen to the free tracks without signing up. they proved their value and I ended up signing up so I could get the whole catalog.
- selykg 4y agoDon’t do that, I could see that being bad too. Unable to stop or pause is another problem. The various screens to get started just need to go away.
- oan 4y agoHey there, I appreciate the feedback and the tutorial screens will definitely go away as soon as the landing page will be live later next month. Can I ask what you mean by unable to stop or pause?
- butterlesstoast 4y agoI presume they might mean ability to play and pause with either integrated phone controls or keyboard play pause. In other words, it should be simple to pause the background music if needed. Lovely application! I’ll use it at work tomorrow.
- selykg 4y agoIt was a direct response to auto-playing when loading the page. I think if you did that but popped the screens you do now you pose a problem of people that load the page but don’t have the ability to pause. Imagine a work environment as an example of that.
- LegitShady 4y agowhen the 'buy premium' window with the difference between free and paid tier was up, I couldn't use the controls to pause the music. The controls should always work.
- LegitShady 4y ago>Some music starting to play in background would definitely be great strongly disagree. If your web page of any kind autoplays music, I'm just closing it right away.
- orphea 4y agoAlso it suggests to check out two Premium backgrounds that are free until... three days ago. Quite a tempting offer.
- kristiandupont 4y agoIf you are into binaural beats, you can try listening to this: [link redacted] I made it with a piece of software many years ago (seriously! It was a DOS program). It's the sound that most consistently puts me into a trance. I put it on Soundcloud to make sure I wouldn't lose it, because I have no way of recreating it and all the apps and videos I have found don't work nearly as well for me.
- cykros 4y agoSbagen, by any chance? That program was quite handy, but it does take a little elbow grease getting it to run these days. I have done it though with the help of "padsp" (ships with pulseaudio). I always loved the "-p drop" sequences it had; nice way to progressively go further and further down the rabbit hole.
- kristiandupont 4y agoCertainly possible, I don't remember. :-)
- oan 4y agoHey there, answering as this is an app of mine and I like to hear people's feedback. You don't actually need to do any sign-up or navigate the tutorials to use the website, there are both an X on the top right and a 'leave tutorial' button to go directly to the play button/mixer
- vmception 4y agoI skipped the tutorial and was right into a scene with no signup?
- gabereiser 4y agoReally? Because I ended on a scene that was unusable without signing up
- ssnistfajen 4y agoThere is a (very stylized) cross mark on the top right corner which you can click to get rid of the signup screen and then hit the play button for music to start playing. Clearly the process needs a few more iterations of improvement. I get why prompting signups is important but without making it less intrusive a lot of potential users will simply walk away when they already have an existing solution of productivity tools + Youtube playlists.
- gabereiser 4y agoI don’t see it. I’m on an iPhone and I see the play controls at the bottom. When I press play I get prompted to select a scene. Oh well. Yes, I agree 100% about needing a few more iterations of improvement on the whole UX. All I could get out of this is a rain sound and a signup. That’s not a very enticing proposition.
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- kirso 4y agoBig fan of Endel, never went back to any playlist. The development and collaborations are amazing.
- applecrazy 4y agoReminds me a lot of https://lifeat.io/ https://lifeat.io/. No affiliation.
- Hbruz0 4y agoThat's amazing, are the videos live ?
- LegitShady 4y agothey are not. you can load and reload them to see their starting point.
- death916 4y agonice vibes. Monetization kinda in your face, but I dig the site.
- midislack 4y agoI just get some animation of some dude walking, nothing happens.
- comnetxr 4y agolooks great. wish I could break it free from the browser though. a browser tab can't really be the backdrop to my work, and clicking into a browser tab just to view the visualization is an extra distraction -- defeating the purpose. Doesn't seem realistic, but I wish I could set this to be my desktop background without loosing the interactivity.
- open1414 4y agoif you use chrome, you can "install" it and it will look like an application then. i do this with spotify
- Nalta 4y agofwiw, I take sites like this and use chrome's option to make them stand-alone apps. (three dots -> more tools -> create shortcut -> open as window)
- comnetxr 4y agodoes anyone know if you could take a window and make it always be in the background -- the reverse of "always on top", say "always on bottom"? doesn't seem to be an option on Mac or in Gnome that I can tell but maybe there is someway to gain that functionality.
- oan 4y agoHey, thank you for the feedback. I absolutely get what you're saying, a solution can be 'installing' the website as an app (you should get the prompt in the browser to do so). Plan for the future is to have both a desktop and mobile app though, which would definitely be the best solution
- TobyTheDog123 4y agoWhile I think this is a really cool product with incredible art assets, I just can't see myself paying $4 monthly (or $100 once) for a number of looping videos, a spotify playlist, customizable audio effects, and a few productivity tools, most of which could be stored in the user's browser, and most of which have better, free alternatives. As a user I'd probably feel more comfortable handing over closer to $1/mo, but of course that's very subjective and this may be worth more/less to different people. The art is really awesome though, but the amount I find myself actually looking away from my task at hand to enjoy it just isn't enough for it to be worth another subscription. I'm not sure what the big costs are for a site like this, but I imagine something like Cloudflare could kill video/asset delivery costs, having users connect their own music accounts (or just use Youtube for curation) could kill any music costs, but that's about it.
- death916 4y agoYa its a bit pricey but really good execution. If there was an open source version of this where you could use ur own files but this was the player or something would be dope. Cant fault someone for trying to make some money though.
- oan 4y agoHey! This is actually a website of mine, so I appreciate the feedback. About the price, any alternative or similar products' memberships cost around double (if not more) for often less features, so I'd say the pricing is actually quite low. For the costs, I would say S3 for the assets is the biggest one, at least with the current 150-200,000 monthly users. The actual art as well is a cost since it's all original, but that can vary if say we don't add any new set for a month, which has happened only one time. Thanks again for the feedback!
- bricemo 4y agoHi there, paid lofi.co member here (I joined to try it out). First off thanks for making this site. I am super into Lofi, listen to it every single day, make my own playlists, have lofi merch, etc. As much as I love lofi, I agree with the other comments that it's hard to compete with the abundant cheap/free content out there. I'm not saying this isn't higher production quality (it definitely is) or this doesn't pull it all together better (it does). I'm saying: it's not 10x better such that I would want to pay for it. I don't think $1 vs $4 makes much of a difference - it's the jump from free to paid that's the sticking point. I want this to succeed and I think I am your exact target market, so I'm racking my brain trying to figure out what would make this worth it. In its current form it seems to only be providing enough value to be ad supported (hopefully your revenue proves me wrong?). Stepping back: the overall purpose of lofi IMO is to be able to concentrate and work in a chill productive environment. Some crazy ideas of things I would definitely pay for: - Maybe it's a monthly coffee subscription sent to your house and the coffee gets featured in the artwork - Maybe you can set up group study sessions and listen together. There's been some great experiments of scheduling a focus time with another person and they are highly productive - There's coffee shops in Japan where you can't leave until you finish your work. Maybe some kind of social commitment like that built into the site - Commit Action is a cool service that helps you break down tasks. Maybe some human consultation like that All of these are pretty big investments. Good luck!
- sha256sum 4y agoReminds me of lofi.cafe, same concept but without creepy login screens and "onboarding processes".
- katcher 4y agoThe best onboarding is to let your users use the product without all the pop ups, Next buttons and registrations for spam.
- junon 4y agoYep. Three taps in and I'm already hitting "premium" screens. No thanks.
- oan 4y agoVery sorry if the login screen looks creepy ahah, definitely got to improve that side. The tutorial will go away as soon as the landing page is live later next month. I do know lofi.cafe as it's from a fellow italian developer, but I think the concept is quite different. Thanks for the feedback!
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- sinamim 4y agofree alternative: https://www.lofi.cafe/ https://www.lofi.cafe/
- a_bored_husky 4y agoanother free alternative: https://lofi.limo/ https://lofi.limo/
- aparks517 4y agoThank you for the shout-out! I see a bunch of folks came by to check it out :)
- a_bored_husky 4y agoHey, no problem. I found it from your Elixir posts and im loving it.
- yogini 4y agoThis is amazing! Thanks for sharing
- crizzlenizzle 4y agoI like that one. It won’t force me to sign-up
- HeadlessChild 4y agoYou can click the 'X' in the top right corner to skip the sign-up/login page.
- xwowsersx 4y agoEverything I click on results in a pop-up directing me to go premium, including links that don't have that little icon indicating it's only available for premium subscribers.
- rayrag 4y agoI've downloaded few mixes with relaxing music from YT and created a playlist in my foobar, it's simple and it doesn't require browser. I also recommend some radio streams: https://somafm.com https://somafm.com http://echoesofbluemars.org/ http://echoesofbluemars.org/ https://plaza.one/ https://plaza.one/
- ilrwbwrkhv 4y agoSomafm digitalis has been my beat since 2008ish
- 0des 4y agosecret agent or die
- kosyblysk666 4y ago2001 ;b
- grey_earthling 4y agoMe too! I've been listening to Digitalis on-and-off since before it was announced on the front page.
- no-dr-onboard 4y agoSomafm’s DEF CON channel is factually the best working music.
- jimmydddd 4y agoThanks for this! I checked it out and it works surprisingly well for me.
- no-dr-onboard 4y agoMy egotistical statement paid off! Glad to hear it.
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- blueflow 4y agoThis is basically lofi-girl as a service.
- r3trohack3r 4y agoI’ve been compiling a list of focus inducing songs on Deezer. My method is to vet a random playlist by listening to it during an intense coding session. If I can make it through without getting distracted I add it to my focus playlist. I have a subsequent vetting process where - if at any point when listening to a song on my focus playlist - a song grabs my attention I’ll remove it. It’s grown to over 75 hours of music at this point. I can listen to it for days on shuffle without hearing anything familiar which helps keep it in the background. https://deezer.page.link/JChycwJz7ArqGDtRA https://deezer.page.link/JChycwJz7ArqGDtRA
- aunetx 4y agoThat's great, thanks for sharing! However you will soon hit the 2000 songs limit on the playlist, if Deezer did not remove it already.
- r3trohack3r 4y agoHa! I already hit it. That’s why the playlist isn’t any longer. You’re the first person I’ve met who knows this limit. Every time I complain about the 2k limit in my social circles, I get these weird looks like they’re saying “who’d ever need more than 2k songs?”
- GekkePrutser 4y agoWhy do they delete it?? Why not just stop the addition of more tracks. I'm not a customer but I'd really be pissed if a service would delete my data this way.
- selcuka 4y agoI guess what OP meant was that Deezer might have removed the limit, not the playlist.
- tra3 4y agoIs it possible to convert this to Spotify or YouTube music?
- holoduke 4y agoJust type in something you feel in YouTube and you get that kind of music. Relaxed coding music, tavern programming music, melodic slow dungeon music, dark church chill music. Celtic modern electronic lounge music, wizard fantasy medevil dubstep relaxed music, sad jungle music, back to 90s synthwave modern music, truckers traffic jam music. You name it. I am amazed how many genres there are out there. I listen it all the time.
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- pbronez 4y agoI’ve settled on https://www.brain.fm/ https://www.brain.fm/ for this. I really like how I can dial the music in for the desired effect. For me, it’s more convenient and effective than searching playlists.
- tra3 4y agoBrain.fm was a good deal when lifetime memebrships were available. It’s not worth the current monthly fee.
- r2_pilot 4y agoI lucked out and did the lifetime membership. It mostly stays unused but it's fun to have sometimes.
- tra3 4y agoYeah, I wish I got it too. I was pretty great to drown out distractions without being distracting itself. I hesitate to confirm or deny whether it actually made me more focused or relaxed.
- subzero06 4y agoThis is great
- chrisweekly 4y agoI'm happy with my personally curated "Flowstate" Spotify playlist, comprised of tracks I can put on repeat for deep work sessions: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6UScdOAlqXqWTOmXFgQhFA?si=P_Eu_7IWQUKuIE23dEHRiQ https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6UScdOAlqXqWTOmXFgQhFA?si=...
- prakhar897 4y agoYours is great but I love this one :) https://driveandlisten.herokuapp.com/ https://driveandlisten.herokuapp.com/
- vidyesh 4y agoHa! This is great, I wish I could just turn off the video and just listen to the street sounds and radio from various countries.
- throwaway6734 4y agohttps://musicforprogramming.net/latest/ https://musicforprogramming.net/latest/ Is my go to. The web design is slick, all tracks are downloadable mp3s, and the tracks are great background noise
- Method-X 4y agohttps://poolsuite.net https://poolsuite.net is the one I use. The retro 90s asthetic is awesome.
- zimpenfish 4y agoAh, I loved poolsuite but then they got the NFT brainworms. Most disappointing.
- kingkongjaffa 4y agoYeah their marketing and aesthetic was so refreshing, then they went mental with pool related NFT's. They seemingly made a decent amount of success with their consumer products - they started a sun cream line and moisturisers etc. all with the same fantastic aesthetic, and not-too-serious sensibilities.
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- mellowagain 4y agoThank you for additionally giving back 1% of your subscription earnings to mental health organizations!
- oan 4y agoHey there, owner of the website here. Glad someone noticed that! It's not something we really like to advertise, but I also know there should be more info about it. For anyone interested, the organization we have donated to since launch is the Brain & Behavior Research Foundation, I recommend checking them out!
- fcurzel 4y agoBeen using for the last few hours, pretty good!
- reactordev 4y agoI tried to use the site but couldn’t without registering for premium. If there any free soundscapes to try this out or is it all behind a paywall?
- kblev 4y agoAnyone knows a good radio for dub techno? Something like CMYK's uploads on YouTube.
- bee_rider 4y agoI really expected there to be something like this, but for VR, by now (although I haven't been keeping as close attention lately, since so much of the market has gotten locked down).
- jimmySixDOF 4y agoThe problem with VR right now is almost no support for background tasks so if you release this as an app it will be all you can do. There are complicated workaround and edge cases but for the most part locked down vendor OS will need to advance a little to make this work. That said there was a custom Spotify release in 2019 for Magic Leap [1] [1] https://www.engadget.com/2019-11-13-spotify-magic-leap-ar-app.html https://www.engadget.com/2019-11-13-spotify-magic-leap-ar-ap...
- luigi23 4y agoIs there anyone who's making this type of music? How to get started?
- aparks517 4y agoThere are some good tutorials on YouTube. If you use iOS, GarageBand is free and up to the task.
- haolez 4y agoCuriously, what really works for me relaxation-wise are real background sounds. For example, a 5 hours long recording of a single rain. These artificial generators doesn't give me the same vibes.
- HomeGear 4y agoSame. In fact, lofi seems to really disrupt my focus. There are times where a beat/kick is so loud it becomes disruptive. I also like background sounds and true ambient music.
- quartz 4y agoYou might like (or already know about) https://coffitivity.com/ https://coffitivity.com/
- xeromal 4y agoSame. I have rainymood running all day at work. I love it. Makes me miss home where it rained weekly.
- jlwofkdfsdf 4y ago> billed yearly ouch, was hoping there was a monthly.