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Porn Actress Kitty Lixo Gets IG Account Unbanned by Having Sex W Meta Employees
- haunter 4y ago
- Cloudef 4y agoin HN we call them "content creators"
- happytoexplain 4y agoThe line between pornography, prostitution, and "sex that happens to be adjacent to a gift or service", can obviously be fuzzy. I don't really get the feeling that you honestly don't understand that, as your edit implies. You are totally free to make a semantic argument, and others are free to disagree with it and, further, consider it to be a "bad faith" argument serving as an excuse to simply be derogatory (hence flagging). Note that I have no idea what this person does and therefore have no opinion about where her individual sexual acts lie on the spectrum.
- gojomo 4y agoIn what way is the post you're responding to derogatory?
- gojomo 4y agoThe downvoters/flaggers are mislabeling these observations as 'derogatory' when they are simply 'irreverent'. And, since the comment is irreverent in exactly same way that the subjects of the comment – publicity-seeking sex-workers – typically like to be strategically irreverent, it's not derogatory to them.
- mcphage 4y agoThis is a very strange comment. First you say she's a prostitute instead of a porn star, and then you suggest she didn't even sleep with the guy. Then... why do you even think she's a prostitute?
- tablespoon 4y ago> This is a very strange comment. First you say she's a prostitute instead of a porn star, and then you suggest she didn't even sleep with the guy. Then... why do you even think she's a prostitute? Someone can be a prostitute but still be lying when they claim to have sex with a particular person. Also I'm under the impression that "porn stars" actually make pretty terrible money for making porn, and actually make their money through things like stripping and prostitution ("escorting") that's enhanced by their "porn star" status.
- mcphage 4y ago> Someone can be a prostitute but still be lying when they claim to have sex with a particular person. So, she’s a prostitute, just one who has never slept with anyone working at Meta? Well, I guess good on her for getting her Instagram unbanned by going through the official channels. > Also I'm under the impression that "porn stars" actually make pretty terrible money for making porn, and actually make their money through things like stripping and prostitution If you say so. I don’t know too many porn stars.
- tablespoon 4y ago> If you say so. I don’t know too many porn stars. I don't either, I've just read the pay is surprisingly terrible. Like a one-time payment of a couple hundred bucks.
- miiiiiike 4y agoYou can’t push certain kinds of content into a grey area on your services. Take a stand, treat everyone equally, and don’t put people in a position where they feel the need to literally figure out which one of your employees they need to fuck to get even treatment. Apple shouldn’t be able to dictate the content and policies of other platforms. Some of the most bizarre forms of damage can only be inflicted by people trying to “do good”.
- fxtentacle 4y agoI wonder if this is sad because people took advantage of an obvious power dynamic, which would make her the victim... Or if she's in control of her destiny and a brilliant marketer. I mean this is clearly getting lots of attention and no matter if the story is correct or not, the myth of her sleeping with Meta employees might significantly raise her attractiveness for similar people, i.e. nerds with a high salary, i.e. her perfect customers. I wouldn't be surprised if this led to an increase in paid business by Meta employees. In that case, she would have converted a business issue into an opportunity.
- raxxorraxor 4y agoAs a nerd with a good salary I find some suggestions here somewhat offensive.
- funcantor 4y agoWhy do you assume the power dynamic is in a single direction
- ASalazarMX 4y agoHe´s trying to identify the strongest power dynamic. The natural balance is towards Meta, since she needs more to have her account unbanned, but if it was also her plan, and it worked, it balances out. According to the tweet: "She said she got her Instagram deleted so she just started messaging Facebook employees on LinkedIn and having sex with them until one finally gave her her account back".
- pessimizer 4y agoBecause her income depends on maintaining her instagram account. That's a material need, anything in the other direction is a rationalization. You might as well say a prisoner forced her prison guard to sleep with her by being so appealing.
- throwaway0a5e 4y agoLiterally everyone income is dependent on various types of enforcement authorities (HR, professional licensing boards, cops, osha, etc) not being on their case. I have a very hard time seeing anyone who manages to pull a fast one on some stupid bureaucracy as a victim.
- temporalparts 4y agoI wonder if this is a fireable offense at Meta?
- forgotmypw17 4y agoI think that will be up to the Integrity Department to decide?
- dekhn 4y agoYes, this is a fireable offense. If Meta chooses, the employee will likely be unemployable.
- Proven 4y ago
- nullc 4y agoHas meta ever publicly disclosed details about an employee fired for an ethics violation in a manner that would even conceivably left them unemployable?
- aaaaaaaaata 4y agoNobody said anything about "publicly".
- gojomo 4y ago“Please tell us about the time you most successfully hacked some (non-computer) system to your advantage.”
- q1w2 4y agoAbsolute monopoly power drives corruption. Social media companies have monopolies on their segment of the market, and it's only a matter of time before they formalize the corruption that clearly already occurs in their review process. This is why corporations that have monopoly (or oligopoly, or near-monopoly) status should not be immune to providing their customers with some form of public-driven due process. Otherwise we're just asking for corruption.
- smegsicle 4y agoseems to have been rescued now, but i wonder why things like this get flagged?
- debacle 4y agoIt has been flagged repeatedly since it was posted.
- jbverschoor 4y agoProbably by the Instagram integrity department
- q1w2 4y agoMonopoly power drives corruption. Social media companies have monopolies on their segment of the market, and it's only a matter of time before they formalize the corruption that clearly already occurs. This is why corporations that are monopolies (or oligopolies, or near-monopolies) should not be immune to providing their customers with some form of public-driven due process.
- anon2020dot00 4y agoBarely Hacker News content I think, only relevant because of Facebook. It's basically just gossip and accusations without any evidence.
- toomuchtodo 4y agoShould be a log of messages and IG actions Facebook infosec can reference, no? Someone unbanned the IG account and there should be a log of that event.
- gojomo 4y agoUnderstanding how moderation powers for online services play out in real-life situations is absolutely an important topic for hackers. Especially so when it's the megaplatforms on which so many other projects depend. Similar motivations can also often create privacy risks for users & staff, requiring both technical & organizational design to prevent. The NSA, Google, and others have all had problems where employees misused their access to pursue personal romantic/social aims. There's a reason the YC application traditionally asked, "Please tell us about the time you, username, most successfully hacked some (non-computer) system to your advantage."
- thepasswordis 4y agoThere seems like some cognitive dissonance happening here. Is there this level of outrage when people use their status within SV to get actual help with problems at google/facebook/twitter? Are twitter employees getting fired when high clout SV people get bluchecked as a status symbol? Or maybe there's something unique about the fact that she's having sex with these people, and in fact having sex with people for money is different that writing computer software for people for money. To be clear: I think that what we're doing to our society by normalizing the idea of young women becoming literal prostitutes, and pretending like that is just cool and normal is horrifying. I just think that stories like this being noteworthy kindof highlight the hypocrisy I see within tech where people pretend that the employees at onlyfans and pornhub aren't litereally engaging in grooming.
- blindmute 4y agoBecause most people are still viscerally repulsed by such shameless promiscuity, even if they rationalize it to themselves otherwise. In my opinion, the instinctual reaction is correct here. It is not normal or cool to be a prostitute.
- philistine 4y ago1. Major corporations are unwilling to solve account problems with actual humans. I decry it, but it's a horrible part of the industry. 2. I can foresee an account problem solved by reaching employees on a forum they're known to frequent. You talk to them and force someone to look at the problem. It is unfair, but I am a realist. 3. I cannot foresee a massive company having such lax security processes that exchanging anything can solve for point 2. Sex, money, whatever. Is Facebook ok that its employees are getting screwed, or getting money, for favours?
- meitham 4y agoI hope the sex was purely in the metaverse and not in this real world!
- gojomo 4y agoThe way the Facebook Metaverse chops off avatars at the waste, it could've only been an intense/suggestive make-out session there.
- gadders 4y agoI am surprised anyone from Meta is talking to any unknown attractive women these days - too likely to be from Project Veritas.
- JackFr 4y agoOr maybe it's just a good story
- gumby 4y agoGood social engineering attack. In a similar situation: in the mid '00s US Department of the Interior regulators were having sex with employees of big oil companies.
- busterarm 4y agoCompletely unsurprising. Being a Meta employee in certain areas allows you to verify anyone on Instagram. A couple of the more unscrupulous employees there that I knew/know would exchange verification for sex with "influencers".
- smegsicle 4y agothey sure were verified as something
- lamontcg 4y agoShe should offer a service for hire to sleep with Apple and Google employees to get people's accounts turned back on. Seems more direct and effective than creating a twitter storm to try to punch through their Kafkaesque support processes.
- mrlonglong 4y ago
- CyberDildonics 4y agoI think the fundamental aspect of this story is that these accounts can be extremely important to people's lives. They are important enough to go on a crusade of sleeping with multiple random people but at the same time are at the whim of getting banned without recourse and unbanned at the whim of the employees in control. There is a severe imbalance between how much these things mean to people and the control they have over them.
- namecheapTA 4y agoIm a guy so I probably can't offer sex to get favors from tech companies, but I could offer cash to employees. Is that allowed? New innovation, SupportBid! An auction where people bid on or buy now 15 minutes blocks of support help from tech companies. I bet there are countless people that would pay $300 for 15 minutes to get their accounts back.