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Fastly acquires Glitch

207 points by 0xedb 4y ago

stoicjumbotron 4y ago
What's in it for Fastly?
- cagenut 4y ago
  Fastly focused exclusively on enterprise accounts and ceded the "entry level" developer market entirely to Cloudflare. Full on snobbishly. In the short run that worked great as being best-in-class won big deals. In the long run that lost the mindshare fight and left 100M+/y in fat margin revenue off the table. And boy oh boy does it show in the market caps. As they bet the future on wasm-at-the-edge saving them from the crushing downward pressure of bandwidth pricing, having a compelling product for the "entry level"* developer market will be crucial to getting the mind and marketshare needed to hit revenue targets (eventually, not this year). Put simpler: fastly made itself overly exclusive and difficult to use, glitch is the polar opposite. Fastly's customer base is 45 year old vp's of infra/devops/sre, glitch's is 27 year old app/front-end dev/designers. There's more money in a deal with the former, there's more of the future in the latter. * I want to be clear, with ~20 years exp when I sit down to figure out a vue front end to my latest flask thingy I'm entry-level af in js/front-end land. Lowering barriers to entry, much like handicap accessibility, is usually a win for everyone.
  - stoicjumbotron 4y ago
    But how would acquiring a developer focused platform give an edge to Fastly or improve their services?
    - cagenut 4y ago
      The operating theory is that caching was only just the first/simplest/cheapest use of a globally distributed network of compute nodes (CDNs), but that as more and more transistors and clock cycles become available it incrementally makes sense to push more and more "workloads" out to the "edge" of the network, for latency benefits. Right now, the most immediate things that come after caching are stuff like input validation, auth validation, waf filtering, rate limiting, routing, decorating, error handling, load-balancing and traffic management type stuff. With WASM, and more specifically rust & javascript, IMHO the next step will be template rendering. After that maybe ML model inference? As long as transistors keep getting cheaper and the speed of light stays the same the opportunity space grows. Adopting and experimenting with all of that stuff will require developers fully embrace the CDN (oops, "edge") as part of their app architecture. A lot of places still treat the CDN as an ops/infra "config and forget" tool. More heroku for rust at the edge than varnish as a service.
hackermondev 4y ago
replit better
jitl 4y ago
It seems like the CDN companies are suddenly(1) becoming App Platforms in a big way. “Computing at the edge” is going from expensive, meme AWS re:Invent buzzword to fun and easy — with no AWS in sight. I hope this deal works out well for the Glitch employees! 1: I know it’s been years in the making, but I’m still slinging Docker containers in a single AWS region.
- PedroBatista 4y ago
  They are trying to do to the Cloud what the Cloud providers did to on-premises iron and "legacy" hosting providers.
  - pjmlp 4y ago
    And the wheel of re-innovation turns yet again.
- chadlavi 4y ago
  I doubt it's going to be a payday for glitch employees stock-wise, but hopefully fastly is a good place for them to work.
  - deleted 4y ago
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  - truthwhisperer 4y ago
  - onmobile2022 4y ago
    Not going by their Glassdoor reviews. I know it is not a reliable source and its incentives are all wrong, but I've never seen a more damning set of reviews for any tech company
    - nickfromseattle 4y ago
      A company I worked for was acquired by a software holding company, and I am pretty sure they have the worst GlassDoor ever. https://www.glassdoor.com/Reviews/Idera-Inc-Reviews-E317065.htm https://www.glassdoor.com/Reviews/Idera-Inc-Reviews-E317065....
funOtter 4y ago
I was using Glitch before they renamed it to Glitch - does anyone remember that name? I can't remember and can't find it on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glitch_(company) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glitch_(company)
- omegadeep10 4y ago
  Gomix I believe. https://blog.glitch.com/post/welcome-to-glitch https://blog.glitch.com/post/welcome-to-glitch
  - funOtter 4y ago
    I think "HyperDev" actually - just found it: https://www.joelonsoftware.com/2016/05/31/introducing-hyperdev/ https://www.joelonsoftware.com/2016/05/31/introducing-hyperd...
    - blinkymach12 4y ago
      - HyperWeb [ Internal project name for first ~year ] - HyperDev [ First public branding / early launch ] - GoMix [ First major relaunch, now with Anil as CEO ] - Glitch [ After acquiring the sweet glitch.com domain from the kind folks at Slack ] Source: I helped work on it
      - easrng 4y ago
        interestingly https://cdn.gomix.com https://cdn.gomix.com and https://cdn.hyperdev.com https://cdn.hyperdev.com URLs still work
  - micromacrofoot 4y ago
    Oh cool, I didn't know Glitch actually worked with Slack to get the name. I miss that stupid game.
    - michaelwilson 4y ago
broner 4y ago
Glitch? Oh they're with Fastly now! https://www.tiktok.com/@benedicttown/video/7098376422300962053?_t=8SO8DMlO3II&_r=1 https://www.tiktok.com/@benedicttown/video/70983764223009620...
cagenut 4y ago
This is a very cool combo I'm excited to use. The glitch in-browser IDE combined with fastly's wasm-hosting-at-the-edge means you can whip up a quick front end without ever having to fight with a terminal. Dramatically lower barrier to entry and reduction of scut-work.
withzombies 4y ago
Glitch was the last iteration of FogCreek, right? There were some really fantastic companies to come out of FogCreek: StackOverflow and Trello being the big ones. It's a little bittersweet to see it get acquired.
- erung88 4y ago
  Never underestimate what Joel Spolsky can do next.
- chrisfinazzo 4y ago
  Yes...and no. Those who were there would be better at telling the story, but up until the Atlassian acquisition and Joel deciding to spend most of his time on a collection of other projects[1], my sense of FC was "software for developers." The original product they made for project planning (FogBugz) and its SCM companion (Kiln) continued on for a while, but seemed to have faded as Glitch ramped up. The other one that comes to mind is Copilot, whose development was chronicled in the Aardvark'd movie - I think Tyler took over the project and is still running it on the side, last I heard. Kind of bittersweet to see these fade away, but Glitch seems to have had more critical success outside of their traditional user base so they're running with it. [1]: https://www.joelonsoftware.com/2019/12/05/so-hows-that-retirement-thing-going-anyway/ https://www.joelonsoftware.com/2019/12/05/so-hows-that-retir...
  - wink 4y ago
    "Copilot is closing": https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31192812 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31192812
    - chrisfinazzo 4y ago
      Is there a copy in Google's cache? The URL doesn't resolve and Internet Archive links fail to load anything.
      - password4321 4y ago
dave84 4y ago
Fog Creek got aquired!
- oblio 4y ago
  End of an era, started circa 2000.
umvi 4y ago
Dupe of: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31434321 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31434321
kixiQu 4y ago
I really hope this works out well for the Glitch userbase. I'm always nudging people towards it because I don't know anything else that makes it as easy to get started with a flexible web project without having to learn The Boring Stuff.
deleted 4y ago
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runj__ 4y ago
I love glitch for quick prototyping, the fact that I can point domain names to projects far more easily than ANY other toolchain is amazing.
john-doe 4y ago
Bye-bye Glitch union.
- advisedwang 4y ago
  The case law is that the "successor" company in an acquisition is still held by all the same union obligations as before an acquisition [1]. So the folks in the Glitch union keep their bargaining unit and keep their contract. Many union contracts also have an explicit "successor clause" too, although I don't know about the Glitch union contract. [1] https://www.nlrb.gov/about-nlrb/rights-we-protect/the-law/bargaining-in-good-faith-with-employees-union-representative https://www.nlrb.gov/about-nlrb/rights-we-protect/the-law/ba...
  - deleted 4y ago
    [deleted]
- cheath 4y ago
  It was dissolved already. Source: https://twitter.com/keithkurson/status/1527310014771130373 https://twitter.com/keithkurson/status/1527310014771130373
  - bestcoder69 4y ago
    Bird-brained move. Things have been good pre-acquisition, so let’s dissolve the union immediately before we get new management. Fellow techies I beg you: stop being so gullible!
    - cheath 4y ago
      I doubt the acquisition would have happened with the union intact. for Fastly in their diligence, that would likely be a dealbreaker. And I don't know the dynamics of the deal and where Glitch was with other options, but that could have very well spelled the end of the company.
ilrwbwrkhv 4y ago
Does anyone know for how much?
- nycdatasci 4y ago
  Terms haven't been disclosed.
dawkins 4y ago
What an amazing track record from Joel Spolsky: Launched Fog Creek, then StackOverflow, Trello and now Glitch (which I think is the successor of Fog Creek)
- blinkymach12 4y ago
  Fog Creek renamed to Glitch as we transitioned from being a bootstrapped product-incubation lifestyle company to a single-product VC-backed startup. I think of the Fog Creek storybook closing with that rename, since Glitch always had a very different business focus, but technically (and perhaps culturally) they're of the same lineage. In other Joel track record exploits, he's also our co-founder over at HASH.ai [1] and a driving force behind the Block Protocol [2][3] [1] https://www.joelonsoftware.com/2020/06/18/hash-a-free-online-platform-for-modeling-the-world/ https://www.joelonsoftware.com/2020/06/18/hash-a-free-online... [2] https://blockprotocol.org/ https://blockprotocol.org/ [3] https://www.joelonsoftware.com/2022/01/27/making-the-web-better-with-blocks/ https://www.joelonsoftware.com/2022/01/27/making-the-web-bet...
  - cheeze 4y ago
    hash.ai and the "block protocol" sound like crypto shams. Nice to see something different, although I feel like the branding really, really makes it seem like crypto.
    - thunderbong 4y ago
      Probably because they were created before the words blockchain and cryptocurrency entered the general populace
- thom 4y ago
  I know this is wrong, but I also think patio11 is somewhat a product of the Business of Software forum (that in many ways is a precursor to this place) so extremely indirectly I credit Joel with still seeing Patrick on my timeline regularly.
  - 4y ago
xwdv 4y ago
Can’t believe it. Fastly itself seems like such an acquisition target right now for some bigger player. Maybe Cloudflare.
- dilyevsky 4y ago
  I would think one of cloud vendors would gobble them up but maybe internal opposition is too strong
  - xwdv 4y ago
    Cloudflare is a fledgling cloud vendor.
    - babelfish 4y ago
      What are some Fastly features that Cloudflare doesn't already have? Why would they be an acquisition target?
      - nosequel 4y ago
        Features that Fastly has that CF does not (or are better on Fastly) - Compute@Edge is a far better product than CF Workers. I think CF is catching up, but right now Fastly is ahead. - Video. Fastly's streaming video offering is so much better than CF. - Large file support (ex: +200gb game downloads), unless it was added recently CF is more limited on file size that can be cached effectively. - Morals. Fastly has morals, CF is severely lacking. I don't know if this one could be "acquired" though.
        unityByFreedom 4y ago
        What? Cloudflare workers has far better javascript support than Compute@Edge, and you don't need to email them to sign up like you do with Fastly. You can try it yourself after creating an account. They also just announced a couple of crazily useful features that Fastly does not have [1] [2]. In fact, you can bet that most new things Cloudflare releases are complete innovations. They are changing the landscape with nearly every new offering. On top of that, Cloudflare workers are faster [3]. Not sure how many people need 200+GB downloads, maybe that's a niche Fastly does cover, though given their history of dubious claims I'd want to see that working before trusting their declarations. Then, they are open sourcing the workers codebase [4], which is absolutely huge, along with forming a working group for standardizing this type of interface [5]. It's everything you could dream of because they're leading the way before you know you need it. Seriously no idea what you are talking about with morals. Like, in regards to which websites they allow to be on their system? I'm really tired of this argument. We can't just close off core internet services to people with whom we disagree. That only increases tension in society. If anything, that speaks to Cloudflare's higher moral fiber. [1] https://blog.cloudflare.com/service-bindings-ga/ https://blog.cloudflare.com/service-bindings-ga/ [2] https://blog.cloudflare.com/workers-for-platforms/ https://blog.cloudflare.com/workers-for-platforms/ [3] https://blog.cloudflare.com/network-performance-update-platform-week/ https://blog.cloudflare.com/network-performance-update-platf... [4] https://blog.cloudflare.com/workers-open-source-announcement/ https://blog.cloudflare.com/workers-open-source-announcement... [5] https://blog.cloudflare.com/introducing-the-wintercg/ https://blog.cloudflare.com/introducing-the-wintercg/
kfarr 4y ago
I dearly love Glitch for k-12 education use cases. My only consistent complaint after all these years is the slow speed, especially "waking up" apps. Hoping this acquisition will result in continued investment to speed up the platform!
- cagenut 4y ago
  That is the specific performance constraint fastly's "Compute@Edge" (wasm app hosting) aims to solve for: https://www.fastly.com/press/press-releases/fastly-launches-new-era-of-highly-secure-serverless-javascript-with-zero https://www.fastly.com/press/press-releases/fastly-launches-... https://glitch.com/fastly https://glitch.com/fastly
  - kfarr 4y ago
    Perfect! Music to my ears
Yahivin 4y ago
Well played.
shireboy 4y ago
I've been using Glitch since it was HyperDev and love it. My main use cases are: 1) learning various frameworks without installing cruft on my dev laptop and 2) small personal or side projects where I need a little hosting but not full AWS/Azure account. It really scratches an itch. Zero friction to just set up and run. I even set up a simple CI so that I develop on a "dev project", but then can push the code to a demo or production project. Great product.

207 points by 0xedb 4y ago

stoicjumbotron 4y ago

What's in it for Fastly?

cagenut 4y ago
Fastly focused exclusively on enterprise accounts and ceded the "entry level" developer market entirely to Cloudflare. Full on snobbishly. In the short run that worked great as being best-in-class won big deals. In the long run that lost the mindshare fight and left 100M+/y in fat margin revenue off the table. And boy oh boy does it show in the market caps. As they bet the future on wasm-at-the-edge saving them from the crushing downward pressure of bandwidth pricing, having a compelling product for the "entry level"* developer market will be crucial to getting the mind and marketshare needed to hit revenue targets (eventually, not this year). Put simpler: fastly made itself overly exclusive and difficult to use, glitch is the polar opposite. Fastly's customer base is 45 year old vp's of infra/devops/sre, glitch's is 27 year old app/front-end dev/designers. There's more money in a deal with the former, there's more of the future in the latter. * I want to be clear, with ~20 years exp when I sit down to figure out a vue front end to my latest flask thingy I'm entry-level af in js/front-end land. Lowering barriers to entry, much like handicap accessibility, is usually a win for everyone.
- stoicjumbotron 4y ago
  But how would acquiring a developer focused platform give an edge to Fastly or improve their services?
  - cagenut 4y ago
    The operating theory is that caching was only just the first/simplest/cheapest use of a globally distributed network of compute nodes (CDNs), but that as more and more transistors and clock cycles become available it incrementally makes sense to push more and more "workloads" out to the "edge" of the network, for latency benefits. Right now, the most immediate things that come after caching are stuff like input validation, auth validation, waf filtering, rate limiting, routing, decorating, error handling, load-balancing and traffic management type stuff. With WASM, and more specifically rust & javascript, IMHO the next step will be template rendering. After that maybe ML model inference? As long as transistors keep getting cheaper and the speed of light stays the same the opportunity space grows. Adopting and experimenting with all of that stuff will require developers fully embrace the CDN (oops, "edge") as part of their app architecture. A lot of places still treat the CDN as an ops/infra "config and forget" tool. More heroku for rust at the edge than varnish as a service.

hackermondev 4y ago

replit better

jitl 4y ago

It seems like the CDN companies are suddenly(1) becoming App Platforms in a big way. “Computing at the edge” is going from expensive, meme AWS re:Invent buzzword to fun and easy — with no AWS in sight. I hope this deal works out well for the Glitch employees! 1: I know it’s been years in the making, but I’m still slinging Docker containers in a single AWS region.

PedroBatista 4y ago
They are trying to do to the Cloud what the Cloud providers did to on-premises iron and "legacy" hosting providers.
- pjmlp 4y ago
  And the wheel of re-innovation turns yet again.
chadlavi 4y ago
I doubt it's going to be a payday for glitch employees stock-wise, but hopefully fastly is a good place for them to work.
- deleted 4y ago
  [deleted]
- truthwhisperer 4y ago
- onmobile2022 4y ago
  Not going by their Glassdoor reviews. I know it is not a reliable source and its incentives are all wrong, but I've never seen a more damning set of reviews for any tech company
  - nickfromseattle 4y ago
    A company I worked for was acquired by a software holding company, and I am pretty sure they have the worst GlassDoor ever. https://www.glassdoor.com/Reviews/Idera-Inc-Reviews-E317065.htm https://www.glassdoor.com/Reviews/Idera-Inc-Reviews-E317065....

funOtter 4y ago

I was using Glitch before they renamed it to Glitch - does anyone remember that name? I can't remember and can't find it on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glitch_(company) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glitch_(company)

omegadeep10 4y ago
Gomix I believe. https://blog.glitch.com/post/welcome-to-glitch https://blog.glitch.com/post/welcome-to-glitch
- funOtter 4y ago
  I think "HyperDev" actually - just found it: https://www.joelonsoftware.com/2016/05/31/introducing-hyperdev/ https://www.joelonsoftware.com/2016/05/31/introducing-hyperd...
  - blinkymach12 4y ago
    - HyperWeb [ Internal project name for first ~year ] - HyperDev [ First public branding / early launch ] - GoMix [ First major relaunch, now with Anil as CEO ] - Glitch [ After acquiring the sweet glitch.com domain from the kind folks at Slack ] Source: I helped work on it
    - easrng 4y ago
      interestingly https://cdn.gomix.com https://cdn.gomix.com and https://cdn.hyperdev.com https://cdn.hyperdev.com URLs still work
- micromacrofoot 4y ago
  Oh cool, I didn't know Glitch actually worked with Slack to get the name. I miss that stupid game.
  - michaelwilson 4y ago

broner 4y ago

Glitch? Oh they're with Fastly now! https://www.tiktok.com/@benedicttown/video/7098376422300962053?_t=8SO8DMlO3II&_r=1 https://www.tiktok.com/@benedicttown/video/70983764223009620...

cagenut 4y ago

This is a very cool combo I'm excited to use. The glitch in-browser IDE combined with fastly's wasm-hosting-at-the-edge means you can whip up a quick front end without ever having to fight with a terminal. Dramatically lower barrier to entry and reduction of scut-work.

withzombies 4y ago

Glitch was the last iteration of FogCreek, right? There were some really fantastic companies to come out of FogCreek: StackOverflow and Trello being the big ones. It's a little bittersweet to see it get acquired.

erung88 4y ago
Never underestimate what Joel Spolsky can do next.
chrisfinazzo 4y ago
Yes...and no. Those who were there would be better at telling the story, but up until the Atlassian acquisition and Joel deciding to spend most of his time on a collection of other projects[1], my sense of FC was "software for developers." The original product they made for project planning (FogBugz) and its SCM companion (Kiln) continued on for a while, but seemed to have faded as Glitch ramped up. The other one that comes to mind is Copilot, whose development was chronicled in the Aardvark'd movie - I think Tyler took over the project and is still running it on the side, last I heard. Kind of bittersweet to see these fade away, but Glitch seems to have had more critical success outside of their traditional user base so they're running with it. [1]: https://www.joelonsoftware.com/2019/12/05/so-hows-that-retirement-thing-going-anyway/ https://www.joelonsoftware.com/2019/12/05/so-hows-that-retir...
- wink 4y ago
  "Copilot is closing": https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31192812 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31192812
  - chrisfinazzo 4y ago
    Is there a copy in Google's cache? The URL doesn't resolve and Internet Archive links fail to load anything.
    - password4321 4y ago

dave84 4y ago

Fog Creek got aquired!

oblio 4y ago
End of an era, started circa 2000.

umvi 4y ago

Dupe of: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31434321 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31434321

kixiQu 4y ago

I really hope this works out well for the Glitch userbase. I'm always nudging people towards it because I don't know anything else that makes it as easy to get started with a flexible web project without having to learn The Boring Stuff.

deleted 4y ago

[deleted]

runj__ 4y ago

I love glitch for quick prototyping, the fact that I can point domain names to projects far more easily than ANY other toolchain is amazing.

john-doe 4y ago

Bye-bye Glitch union.

advisedwang 4y ago
The case law is that the "successor" company in an acquisition is still held by all the same union obligations as before an acquisition [1]. So the folks in the Glitch union keep their bargaining unit and keep their contract. Many union contracts also have an explicit "successor clause" too, although I don't know about the Glitch union contract. [1] https://www.nlrb.gov/about-nlrb/rights-we-protect/the-law/bargaining-in-good-faith-with-employees-union-representative https://www.nlrb.gov/about-nlrb/rights-we-protect/the-law/ba...
- deleted 4y ago
  [deleted]
cheath 4y ago
It was dissolved already. Source: https://twitter.com/keithkurson/status/1527310014771130373 https://twitter.com/keithkurson/status/1527310014771130373
- bestcoder69 4y ago
  Bird-brained move. Things have been good pre-acquisition, so let’s dissolve the union immediately before we get new management. Fellow techies I beg you: stop being so gullible!
  - cheath 4y ago
    I doubt the acquisition would have happened with the union intact. for Fastly in their diligence, that would likely be a dealbreaker. And I don't know the dynamics of the deal and where Glitch was with other options, but that could have very well spelled the end of the company.

ilrwbwrkhv 4y ago

Does anyone know for how much?

nycdatasci 4y ago
Terms haven't been disclosed.

dawkins 4y ago

What an amazing track record from Joel Spolsky: Launched Fog Creek, then StackOverflow, Trello and now Glitch (which I think is the successor of Fog Creek)

blinkymach12 4y ago
Fog Creek renamed to Glitch as we transitioned from being a bootstrapped product-incubation lifestyle company to a single-product VC-backed startup. I think of the Fog Creek storybook closing with that rename, since Glitch always had a very different business focus, but technically (and perhaps culturally) they're of the same lineage. In other Joel track record exploits, he's also our co-founder over at HASH.ai [1] and a driving force behind the Block Protocol [2][3] [1] https://www.joelonsoftware.com/2020/06/18/hash-a-free-online-platform-for-modeling-the-world/ https://www.joelonsoftware.com/2020/06/18/hash-a-free-online... [2] https://blockprotocol.org/ https://blockprotocol.org/ [3] https://www.joelonsoftware.com/2022/01/27/making-the-web-better-with-blocks/ https://www.joelonsoftware.com/2022/01/27/making-the-web-bet...
- cheeze 4y ago
  hash.ai and the "block protocol" sound like crypto shams. Nice to see something different, although I feel like the branding really, really makes it seem like crypto.
  - thunderbong 4y ago
    Probably because they were created before the words blockchain and cryptocurrency entered the general populace
thom 4y ago
I know this is wrong, but I also think patio11 is somewhat a product of the Business of Software forum (that in many ways is a precursor to this place) so extremely indirectly I credit Joel with still seeing Patrick on my timeline regularly.
- 4y ago

xwdv 4y ago

Can’t believe it. Fastly itself seems like such an acquisition target right now for some bigger player. Maybe Cloudflare.

dilyevsky 4y ago
I would think one of cloud vendors would gobble them up but maybe internal opposition is too strong
- xwdv 4y ago
  Cloudflare is a fledgling cloud vendor.
  - babelfish 4y ago
    What are some Fastly features that Cloudflare doesn't already have? Why would they be an acquisition target?
    - nosequel 4y ago
      Features that Fastly has that CF does not (or are better on Fastly) - Compute@Edge is a far better product than CF Workers. I think CF is catching up, but right now Fastly is ahead. - Video. Fastly's streaming video offering is so much better than CF. - Large file support (ex: +200gb game downloads), unless it was added recently CF is more limited on file size that can be cached effectively. - Morals. Fastly has morals, CF is severely lacking. I don't know if this one could be "acquired" though.
      - unityByFreedom 4y ago
        What? Cloudflare workers has far better javascript support than Compute@Edge, and you don't need to email them to sign up like you do with Fastly. You can try it yourself after creating an account. They also just announced a couple of crazily useful features that Fastly does not have [1] [2]. In fact, you can bet that most new things Cloudflare releases are complete innovations. They are changing the landscape with nearly every new offering. On top of that, Cloudflare workers are faster [3]. Not sure how many people need 200+GB downloads, maybe that's a niche Fastly does cover, though given their history of dubious claims I'd want to see that working before trusting their declarations. Then, they are open sourcing the workers codebase [4], which is absolutely huge, along with forming a working group for standardizing this type of interface [5]. It's everything you could dream of because they're leading the way before you know you need it. Seriously no idea what you are talking about with morals. Like, in regards to which websites they allow to be on their system? I'm really tired of this argument. We can't just close off core internet services to people with whom we disagree. That only increases tension in society. If anything, that speaks to Cloudflare's higher moral fiber. [1] https://blog.cloudflare.com/service-bindings-ga/ https://blog.cloudflare.com/service-bindings-ga/ [2] https://blog.cloudflare.com/workers-for-platforms/ https://blog.cloudflare.com/workers-for-platforms/ [3] https://blog.cloudflare.com/network-performance-update-platform-week/ https://blog.cloudflare.com/network-performance-update-platf... [4] https://blog.cloudflare.com/workers-open-source-announcement/ https://blog.cloudflare.com/workers-open-source-announcement... [5] https://blog.cloudflare.com/introducing-the-wintercg/ https://blog.cloudflare.com/introducing-the-wintercg/

kfarr 4y ago

I dearly love Glitch for k-12 education use cases. My only consistent complaint after all these years is the slow speed, especially "waking up" apps. Hoping this acquisition will result in continued investment to speed up the platform!

cagenut 4y ago
That is the specific performance constraint fastly's "Compute@Edge" (wasm app hosting) aims to solve for: https://www.fastly.com/press/press-releases/fastly-launches-new-era-of-highly-secure-serverless-javascript-with-zero https://www.fastly.com/press/press-releases/fastly-launches-... https://glitch.com/fastly https://glitch.com/fastly
- kfarr 4y ago
  Perfect! Music to my ears

Yahivin 4y ago

Well played.

shireboy 4y ago

I've been using Glitch since it was HyperDev and love it. My main use cases are: 1) learning various frameworks without installing cruft on my dev laptop and 2) small personal or side projects where I need a little hosting but not full AWS/Azure account. It really scratches an itch. Zero friction to just set up and run. I even set up a simple CI so that I develop on a "dev project", but then can push the code to a demo or production project. Great product.