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All open systems are destroyed by spam once they become popular enough to be profitable targets. This will eventually happen to the Fediverse too. If there is m

by api 4y ago

All open systems are destroyed by spam once they become popular enough to be profitable targets. This will eventually happen to the Fediverse too. If there is money to be made pissing all over the commons, the commons will be pissed all over. It even happens to proprietary silos if they are too open. Look at how many bots and spammers infest social media. Propaganda and disinformation can also be considered a form of spam. I realize this sounds cynical but don’t shoot the messenger. It’s just something I’ve learned watching the Internet evolve since the middle 1990s. Spam eats everything it can. IMHO the future is enclaves and invite only communities. The Internet is a dark forest.

marginalia_nu 4y ago
As old open systems are destroyed, new ones are created to replace them. The Internet exists in a constant state of rebirth and transformation. You really can't step into the same river twice.
- nonrandomstring 4y ago
  > You really can't step into the same river twice. I love the maxim and philosophy of eternal refreshment. Seems like the problem is more akin to having nuclear waste dumped into our rivers though.
pixl97 4y ago
It's not cynical, is how every system in nature works. Everything alive must develop an immune system or it is attacked and eaten.
NoGravitas 4y ago
You are probably right about the future; not necessarily because of spam, though that's a part of it, but just because of the toxicity of global, open to the world, mostly public social media. The Fediverse has mostly coasted by so far on obscurity, but it's not great, and it's bound to get worse. All of my online socializing these days is either through short-lived pseuds on topic-oriented fora, or invite-only Matrix rooms.
pwdisswordfish9 4y ago
> This will eventually happen to the Fediverse too. Oh, don’t worry, the Fediverse will never catch on.
- ffhhj 4y ago
  Why? Serious question.

by api 4y ago

marginalia_nu 4y ago

As old open systems are destroyed, new ones are created to replace them. The Internet exists in a constant state of rebirth and transformation. You really can't step into the same river twice.

nonrandomstring 4y ago
> You really can't step into the same river twice. I love the maxim and philosophy of eternal refreshment. Seems like the problem is more akin to having nuclear waste dumped into our rivers though.

pixl97 4y ago

It's not cynical, is how every system in nature works. Everything alive must develop an immune system or it is attacked and eaten.

NoGravitas 4y ago

You are probably right about the future; not necessarily because of spam, though that's a part of it, but just because of the toxicity of global, open to the world, mostly public social media. The Fediverse has mostly coasted by so far on obscurity, but it's not great, and it's bound to get worse. All of my online socializing these days is either through short-lived pseuds on topic-oriented fora, or invite-only Matrix rooms.

pwdisswordfish9 4y ago

> This will eventually happen to the Fediverse too. Oh, don’t worry, the Fediverse will never catch on.

ffhhj 4y ago
Why? Serious question.