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Success in Canada means moving to America
- mariuslandon 4y ago
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- tapia 4y ago
- crowbahr 4y agoOnly in a Spanish speaking sense: In English American means citizen of the United States of America, unlike the Spanish Estado Unidense being different than Americano. Canadians aren't American in English. Mexicans aren't American in English. Both of them can become American by immegration and naturalization into the United States. It's a quirk of the language.
- xyzzyz 4y agoNot just of (American) English either. In Polish, for example, citizens of United Stated are “Amerykanie”, but Canadians or Mexicans arę not.
- xeromal 4y agoSame in at least Iraqi arabic. My friends call me an "Amreekie" or some form of that.
- blululu 4y agoIt's mostly just in Latin American varieties of Spanish and Portuguese. In conversational European Spanish/Portuguese (and pretty much every other language on Earth) American is the standard demonym for people of the United States. But most importantly, this is a discussion in English about Canada, and Canadians (both English and French speaking) would object to being called Americans.
- luis8 4y agoTechnically Mexicans are "Estado Unidenses" too. The official name of Mexico is "United States of Mexico"
- rascul 4y agoCanada is indeed in the Americas, and more specifically North America, but it is not in the country that is often called America.
- SnowHill9902 4y agoWhat’s the demonym for someone who is from the continent of America?
- anamexis 4y agoAlso American. Also North America and South America are generally considered two continents, and collectively referred to as The Americas. They have their own, unambiguous demonyms, North American and South American.
- maximus-decimus 4y agoNorth Americans?
- anthomtb 4y agoNorth American typically implies someone from the anglophone part of the continent.
- anamexis 4y agoNorth American isn't typically used to refer to people at all. But in geopolitical contexts, it definitely refers to the entire continent (e.g. NAFTA)
- coastflow 4y agoMexico is part of North America, and Mexico was included as part of the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) when it was active (reference: https://www.investopedia.com/terms/n/nafta.asp https://www.investopedia.com/terms/n/nafta.asp).
- AlchemistCamp 4y ago
- karmakaze 4y agoAnd California is the province south of BC.
- alar44 4y agoWhat's with these stupid pedantic comments lately? Do you really not understand the context of America here or are you just verysmart?
- anamexis 4y agoLately? This is HN.
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- prions 4y agoI don’t understand how comparing Trudeau to Hitler is a reasonable position.
- u385639 4y ago> Bill maher, musk, russel brand have called Trudeau hitler. These aren't unreasonable positions. What?
- anamexis 4y ago> They dont have a history of calling people names like this. Also what?
- 0des 4y agoI think they mean that Canadians are usually more demure and polite than to stoop to the level of trivializing one of recent-history's worst atrocities to express political/ideological discontent. tbh, I can't stand callout culture, but I wish this would get called out more often. What type of psychological damage is being done to jews by turning their painful history into a talking point, or conversational force multiplier? You don't see people do that about African slavery or other atrocities, so why compare everything to Hitler? It's ugly.
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- dagmx 4y agoIt's the same difficulty. You can go between them under NAFTA visa agreements.
- lvl102 4y agoPhrased differently, there are far more job opportunities in the US vs Canada especially in tech. So what is the US gaining here handing out jobs to Canadians? And it’s not like the education systems are so different that the US is gaining some skilled labor.
- zemo 4y ago> what is the US gaining here handing out jobs to Canadians? workers? Finding good engineers is hard and most people don't care where they come from.
- dagmx 4y agoThat's a very different question than your first question. This one is quite a bit more jingoist. this goes in to the age old nationalist trope of "American jobs should belong to Americans" without considering that sometimes if the job goes to the better candidate, it can still be a net positive benefit. End of the day, you're benefiting from their expertise in a field to improve tech, of which certain fields like computer graphics have a high showing in Canada, but also the taxes they're paying into the system. Your argument also assumes that equally qualified and skilled Americans exist in the local market, that are untapped.
- chollida1 4y agoI mean, you get access to some amazing talent. There is a reason why Waterloo University is held in the same regard as most top tier US universities. Microsoft was recruiting from there since the early 80's. Bill Gates once referred to Waterloo as their secret weapon as his competitors were obsessed with MIT and Stanford and CalTech when he could grab large portions of Waterloo's graduating classes whose students were of the same calibre.
- lotsofpulp 4y agoBecause a market of 38M people has fewer and smaller opportunities than a market of 334M people, assuming same relative levels of wealth.
- skippyboxedhero 4y agoSize of domestic market used to be the theory in the 60s (it led to the formation of the EU), but isn't a popular explanation anymore because most large countries never ended up getting rich. Economic system used to be theory in the 90s, but also has fallen out of favour as countries that had "good systems" never really caught up (the UK has a very similar system in many ways, but doesn't have that final piece). It isn't really that simple. The US just appears to have everything at once. The closest is probably Australia or possibly Switzerland (both are significantly smaller than Canada). Also, the US and Canada do not have the same level of wealth...the only country in the world that is close to the US in wealth is Switzerland and Australia (the latter is a bit unclear but is probably true once superannuation is included). Canada is definitely up there but is more similar to Europe than the US, again there is nowhere that really compares to the US.
- weatherlite 4y agoA key thing is the dollar's status is reserve currency. It keeps its value up despite the US being a debtor nation and amassing huge debt. Without reserve currency status its anyone's guess how things will look - probably closer to Europe.
- brabel 4y ago> the only country in the world that is close to the US in wealth is Switzerland and Australia What?! I have no idea where you got that idea from, but looking at https://www.worldometers.info/gdp/gdp-per-capita/ https://www.worldometers.info/gdp/gdp-per-capita/ you can see the USA is 13th in the world when its wealth is divided by its population. If you were trying to say that the USA is the wealthiest nation in absolute terms, I would understand, but when you place Australia and Switzerland as the only nations that "come close" you're clearly implying per capita wealth, meaning that's nonsense.
- carlmr 4y agoI'm not sure if this is true. Looking at 30 million vs 330 million in population, you'd expect cultural output to come out in a ratio of 11:1. The arts are hyper-competitive. In the US you might think you have more of a chance because you see more successes, but I doubt the ratios are that different if you also account for more failures. Also Canada has Québec, producing your works in French will naturally decrease the possible target audience.
- bombcar 4y agoAlso if you become Celine Dion in Canada you should have no trouble moving to the US at that point. But trying to become famous from the ground up in a larger country seems more difficult. Big fish in small pond theory and all.
- dagmx 4y agoCovid has changed this quite a bit, though even pre covid this wasn't exactly true depending on your profession. Pre-covid, Canada was the place to be for working in film/tv , visual effects and animation in terms of jobs. I skimmed it but the author didn't mention exactly what creative vocation they were in but given they said Nashville, it's unlikely to be in these fields. Post Covid, success as a developer can mean working remote for a US company, and that is a huge tide change recently. You're suddenly getting US rates, minus the currency conversion, in Canada. Better yet, you can get silicon valley rates.
- granshaw 4y agoYou _can_, but most companies are doing location-based pay, so it certainly isn't easy
- dagmx 4y agoIt's true, but I'm seeing a significant change in the number of roles I'm being reached out to for, or that my friends have gotten, where the location based pay is just the currency difference +-10%. Assuming similar high expense cities like Vancouver vs San Francisco. Other Canadian cities tend to drop off on the cost of labor scale very quickly which affects the location based pay a lot. But that's true in the US as well. Granted that currency conversion hit is a lot. For me, it's less than the amount of time I spent commuting to work in the US, so I feel I came out in top for pay relative to my hours involved.
- lhorie 4y agoEven with location-based pay adjustments, big tech has had a growing presence in Canada, and it's becoming more and more realistic to land roles in the upper range of the trimodal comp distribution curve. Location based adjustments for a USD 300k/yr IC role do make up for a huge pay ceiling increase compared to a decade ago where senior dev @ CAD 120k was a ceiling for IC roles before needing to pivot into management.
- annexrichmond 4y agoThat’s quite an assumption that US companies are paying US rates in Canada. I can confirm that mine is paying 20% less
- coastflow 4y agoNote that the article focuses on the ability to find work in the creative and media industry, versus the technology industry. In addition, though it captures a feeling that many Canadians have, I wish it were backed by statistics and data to support the assertion in the headline. I also thought that the following passage was not strongly supported: >”WHEN I GOT BACK to Toronto, I understood in a new, tactile way that I might one day leave it. Toronto’s energy flows endlessly toward the impulse to win, to never stop working until you hit your head on the visible ceiling. Then you work some more. New York has that vibe too, maybe even more so, but I feel like everyone’s more self-aware about it. And, more importantly, there’s no ceiling. You can try to dominate the world and touch the clouds, as foolish as it would be.” I believe the “impulse to win” is more of a function of who you associate with and your own attitudes, versus the city you happen to be located in. There is a grain of truth (people who move to New York City are often self-selected to be ambitious), but it wasn’t convincing to assert that the people of Toronto are chasing promotions as part of a corporate ladder until they hit a ceiling. Counter-examples are abound in Toronto. Some people start their own companies, others find enjoyment outside of work (e.g. family and friends), and others are comfortable with their position in life (e.g. small business owner of a bakery). People in Toronto also come from vastly different cultural backgrounds as the city is one of the most culturally diverse (over half as part of an ethnic minority as of 2016) in the world [0], so it is a leap to assert that everyone shares similar beliefs about work just because they live in the city. The author’s assertion is an example of the “false-consensus effect,” where people mistakenly believe that others in a particular context must share their beliefs [1]. This is why studies with statistical analyses are important. >”But, in practice, that inevitability now felt freeing. I guess I got tired of repressing my sense of possibility.” You don’t need to move to New York City to feel a sense of possibility and work toward your goals. [0] (PDF): https://www.toronto.ca/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/99b4-TOHealthCheck_2019Chapter1.pdf https://www.toronto.ca/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/99b4-TOHea... [1] https://www.nngroup.com/articles/false-consensus/ https://www.nngroup.com/articles/false-consensus/
- potatolicious 4y agoI think there's an unsaid thing here where the author means "money" when they say "possibility". The range of possible financial outcomes in the US is wider, there's definitely a lot more investor money flowing - both in technology and the arts. There's a type of runaway wealth that's achievable in the US that seems far less likely in Canada. Which is the general theme of financial outcomes in the US: the highs are higher... and the lows are lower. It's the land of possibility and also the land of destitution and desperation. We contain multitudes, I suppose. Being in tech and not the arts I can't say I know exactly what the author is describing - but certainly the tech "brain drain" of Canadians to the US has been overwhelmingly about money as opposed to the vague notion of "possibility". It seems valuable to not mince words about that - it's fine to want the kinds of outlier financial outcomes that the US makes possible and that's exceedingly rare in Canada, but one ought not conflate it with some other higher-minded notion.
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- DoreenMichele 4y agoWorking in Canadian journalism, I’d often hear other editors reference the mythical former colleagues who had moved to New York—America, in this context, is always New York. Lots of Americans dream of either LA or New York, depending on their industry. I imagine in Europe, it's probably Paris and London that draws both French/British and foreigners. Frank Sinatra had a song called New York, New York and one of the lines is "If I can make it there, I'll make it anywhere." It's sort of inevitable that the largest city in the region draws talent and ambition and this gravity pool does not respect international borders. Though I wish we did a better job of fostering diversity of views from other places even within the US. It's something I've lamented before: Even Americans get kind of brainwashed that their local culture is inferior and everything is better in New York (and California) because that's where so much of our popular media originates and is set.
- giorgioz 4y agoFor software engineers in Europe is Dublin, Berlin and London. I'm one of the few that made it all the way to California. I've been always the guy trying to push fellow software engineers to go to the USA. Even though I lasted in the Silicon Valley only a year before quitting my full-time job and becoming a digital nomad and boostrapping my own SaaS company https://www.waiterio.com https://www.waiterio.com
- DoreenMichele 4y agoThank you. For software, it's San Francisco, not Los Angeles, that is Mecca in the US.
- Axsuul 4y agoLos Angeles has its own prominent startup scene as well if you’re looking for that kind of lifestyle.
- mettamage 4y agoIf you have any tips to get to the US as a European, I’d be happy to hear them. If needed, my email is in my profile.
- causality0 4y agoIt's easy to become irritated at Canadians for their never-ending holier-than-thou attitude toward America and Americans, to wish they'd piss off and find a culture that isn't based around not being you, but if you think a little more about it you'll find that anger is misguided. Canadians are in an uncomfortable position. Existing comfortably requires a certain degree of ignoring your own flaws. Canadians, possibly more than anyone else in the world, are not afforded that luxury. They have a giant mirror next door that shows them a people just like them with their own naked flaws without the ability to gloss over them. This kind of constant unconsensual reminder is stressful and must breed tremendous resentment. So the next time you're annoyed at being talked down to by a Canadian, remember that it's us who deprived them of the ability to lie to themselves about everything but the ways in which they differ from Americans.
- quest88 4y agoWhat are you saying
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- petesergeant 4y agoI’m British, married to a Canadian, and you need to be clear that your comment is entirely about you and your insecurities and not about Canadians.
- osigurdson 4y agoI think it is really only governments that are interested in perpetuating the narrative that the US and Canada are very different. They concern themselves with Canadian identity and culture (even via direct investment) while every Canadian that I know could care less about these things. No one I know is particularly worried about Anne of Green Gables going out of style.
- 0xRusty 4y agoAs a Brit living in Canada and working in the visual effects and creative industries for the last 9 years, your point about their culture being all about "not being you" really hits the mark. Canadians think they're the country the whole world loves and wants to be. The reality is they're irrelevant on the world stage. Culturally they offer the world very little. There are basically 3 maybe 4 cities. With the exception of Montreal (which has some history and culture to call its own) they all spout "diversity being our strength" - this leaves cities like Toronto and Vancouver as the most soulless, boring places I've ever had the misfortune to live in. They have no culture of their own, instead borrowing from everyone else. There is no "Toronto food", "Toronto music", "Toronto scene". Politically they're led by a smug, manipulating, self serving narssisist who calls you a racist and a Nazi yet wears blackface and suspends civil liberties, rushing through emergency war powers to deal with a protest. The healthcare system, as the last two years have shown, are completely inadequate. Quebec was locked down from 8pm while the sun was still shining for fear of overloading a health system they have done nothing to improve since the start of the pandemic. I'm counting down the days until I leave for America and never look back.
- ramesh31 4y agoAmericans respect the Canadian aesthetic. Stan Rogers embodied this perfectly [0]. Be Canadian and share your authentic Canadianess with us. Don't try to be American. [0] https://youtu.be/vdaaPl_kZpw?t=1728 https://youtu.be/vdaaPl_kZpw?t=1728
- imilk 4y agoDamn Jim Lahey had a nice voice before he hit the booze
- sixstringtheory 4y agoYou joke but John Dunsworth I think also nicely embodies the spirit I see parent getting at: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3mcQfP8k51s https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3mcQfP8k51s
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- aga98mtl 4y agoI mostly agree with the exception of Quebec. Much of canadianness is taking french-canadian symbols & culture and saying: "See we are not americans!"
- bombcar 4y agoBut Quebec seems so much like discount France it’s hard to tell the difference. I feel all of the Americas needed a couple hundred more years without mass transit and light speed communications to really develop separate identities. As it is Minnesota isn’t called “little Canada” for nothing: it can be hard to really distinguish.
- cardy31 4y agoLol Americans call me out almost immediately as being Canadian just because of my accent. There are many important differences between the two cultures. The most important IMO is being less hellbent on “freedom” and understanding that sometimes sacrificing a small amount of personal liberty for the greater good is the right thing to do.
- tonetheman 4y agoI want to do the opposite. Get away from America. Someone give me a job. I am an ubernerd!
- vmception 4y agoMake money in America and dip out. Its a privileged starting point for doing just that.
- strictfp 4y agoWhy move to America when Canada's already in America? ;P
- chitowneats 4y agoFound the Argentinian.
- AlchemistCamp 4y agoCanada is in "The Americas", but not in "America" ;)
- NGRhodes 4y agoConfused European here, I thought "America" was the same as "The Americas"
- AlchemistCamp 4y ago“America” is the country. “The Americas” is the two continents.
- strictfp 4y agoI think that's a colloquialism, according to several dictionaries "America" can nean the two continents. https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/america https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/america
- spoonjim 4y agoAmerica still does “larger than life” better than anyone. If you want to be the biggest the baddest the richest the quickest the Sun God above mere mortals — this is the country to be in.
- mrkramer 4y agoMore ambitious people always move to more developed countries in a search of better life whether it means better education, better job opportunities(greater salary), better career path etc. Btw when somebody compares Canada to US I always remember the Canada rant from Shameless: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJOO9I9kvwo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJOO9I9kvwo
- smt88 4y ago> people always move to more developed countries in a search of better life whether it means better education, better job opportunities(greater salary), better career path etc. By most measures, Canada is more developed than the US. Also, this article is about people who work in the arts, like film and music. It has nothing to do with seeking better education.
- mrkramer 4y ago>By most measures, Canada is more developed than the US. By what measures? Social benefits? I was speaking about industry and technology not about health care accessibility or whatever. By that criteria you can call Sweden more developed than US. The majority of the world's most valuable companies are from US[0] so private sector wise US is superior. [0] https://companiesmarketcap.com/ https://companiesmarketcap.com/
- fartcannon 4y agoI didn't watch the show so I don't known the context. Am I supposed to side with him or Canada?
- UweSchmidt 4y agoA very 2022 instinct, maybe a sign of our hyper-polarized times, trying to find the side you're supposed to side with even for an obscure Youtube video.
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- fguerraz 4y ago[European who only read the title] Isn't Canada already in America?
- junofan 4y agoI believe it’s in North America.
- bombcar 4y agoStrange religion ;) But people refer to the USA as “America” even though Canada and Mexico are also in “North America” and all the countries in South America exist also. Even so, nobody would refer to someone from those countries as “American”.
- School-Cotton 4y ago> Even so, nobody would refer to someone from those countries as “American”. Maybe not in English, but it would be quite normal to do so in some other languages.
- WalterBright 4y agoWhether "America" refers to the continent or the United States depends on the context.
- School-Cotton 4y agoThe set of continents is arbitrary. Some cultures (arbitrarily) recognize North America and South America as separate continents, whereas some others consider them to be one continent, called America. Among many of the cultures that recognize two continents, the term “America” has drifted in meaning over time to colloquially refer to the USA. That is the sense in which “America” was meant in this headline.
- sgjohnson 4y ago> the term “America” has drifted in meaning over time to colloquially refer to the USA. Only in English speaking and non-American countries. All of the Spanish speaking American countries are happy to call what everyone else calls "americans" "united-stateans", i.e. "estadounidense" in Spanish. Because of course it's stupid to call gringos "american", when the entire continent is called America. This is also happening to Europe, in a lesser extent (for 2 reasons, first of which is that the EU isn't a country, and the 2nd is that most of European countries are in the EU). "European" is more often used to refer to an inhabitant of the European Union than it's used to refer to an inhabitant of Europe, the continent.
- WalterBright 4y agoIn any profession, if you want to be very successful, America is your best shot. But you can't have both cradle to grave security, and the opportunity for success. You can see that in the endless Progressive proposals to erase American billionaires in exchange for more security.
- bombcar 4y agoThere’s also something to not aiming to be very successful - or borrowing success and bringing it back. But if you move to the US for ten/twenty years to amass a pile of success and money, it may be very hard to move back afterwards.
- benditlike 4y agoWhat would make it hard to return to Canada after twenty years?
- pbourke 4y ago15 years here. There are a few things. Housing affordability: Canadian prices have skyrocketed in the past 10-20 years and have increased much more than the US. Cost of living: it’s generally higher in Canada. Where to live: there is much more variety in the US. For instance, there are few “quaint small towns” in Canada in comparison. The American small town/city with a historic Main Street has survived, whereas it’s a fast-vanishing thing in Canada. Much of Canada is starting to look the same in terms of the built environment and urban planning. Access to healthcare: Canada has universal healthcare, and the system kicks in if something serious happens. But for anything not at that level, there are serious issues. For instance, depending on where you live it can be hard to find a primary care doctor. There are waiting lists for many procedures, for imaging, etc. If you have an upper middle class type situation in the US your access to health care is much, much better. I can often get in to see my doctor within 24h. Employment opportunities: it’s much better nowadays, but the US is still the place to be in terms of variety of work and compensation. And finally, it’s hard to leave anywhere after decades - you get used to your life and your community. Canada will always be my homeland, but it’s starting to feel a bit alien to me, in subtle ways. Canada has changed over the past 15 years and you can’t step into the same river twice.
- jacques_chester 4y agoIt's the same for Australians. For other Australians reading this and thinking you can't get into the US, you absolutely can. Look up the E3 visa. It's easy to get because it's reserved entirely for Australian citizens.
- jbarham 4y agoYeah, but can you get a green card on an E3?
- jacques_chester 4y agoYes. I have.
- cardy31 4y agoThis is definitely true for the creative industry. I used to be a professional musician, and now work at a well known tech company doing Production Engineering. I work remotely in Canada. I watched lots of creative friends move to New York and LA because that is where you have to go to really make it in almost cases. I don’t think success in tech means moving to the US though. Lots of US companies will pay good salaries to remote Canadians. I live in Canada not because I don’t have the option to go work in the US but because the trade offs of living in the USA aren’t worth the increased salary to me.
- UweSchmidt 4y ago"You’re taught to value art that expresses a distinctly Canadian point of view. You’re taught that such a thing as a Canadian point of view exists at all and that there’s a whole set of aesthetic shorthand to convey it." Anyone got any examples for that the author might mean with that?
- youeseh 4y agoIf there's anything distinctly Canadian - truly, than the US, is that it is officially bilingual. Of course, almost no one in English speaking Canada can speak a lick of French because of how awful French language classes are - you can get an A yet remember nothing.
- UweSchmidt 4y agoI mean what would be an example of art that would (naturally or contrived) express a Canadian point of view? What does an aesthetic shorthand for it look like?
- pbourke 4y ago- Paintings by the Group of Seven - The music of Newfoundland and Cape Breton, Nova Scotia - the writing of Nobel Prize winner Alice Munro - the work of Métis artisans (clothing, decorative arts) - music of The Tragically Hip
- UweSchmidt 4y agoThanks!
- drpgq 4y agoThe Great White North sketches on SCTV?
- 3qz 4y agoCanadians can’t afford to live anywhere that has decent jobs if they have to pay current prices. Moving to the states is the only choice most young Canadians have.
- Mikeb85 4y agoThere is no future in Canada. Our GDP per capita in USD has gone down 20% in the last decade [1]. We're one of the most expensive places to live and real earnings have gone down in the last decade. Almost everyone I know is already gone, either to the US or Europe. If you're educated, the sheer amount of money you'll make in the US makes up for things like lack of socialized healthcare. In Europe, you get all the same socialized benefits (better actually), a similar to better income but housing and various day to day items cost much, much less. We're basically a petro-state that only incidentally has other industries because we're a low-cost alternative to American labour. [1] https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GDP.PCAP.CD?locations=CA&start=2000 https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GDP.PCAP.CD?location...
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- divbzero 4y ago> Our GDP per capita in USD has gone down 20% in the last decade [1]. It appears that much of this is due to CAD depreciating relative to USD over the last 10 years [2]. I suppose this is relevant for Canadians buying imported goods, but could be less relevant for local goods. [2]: https://www.xe.com/currencycharts/?from=CAD&to=USD&view=10Y https://www.xe.com/currencycharts/?from=CAD&to=USD&view=10Y
- Mikeb85 4y agoAll our goods are imported since we make hardly anything. The few consumer products Canadians do make generally get exported to countries with higher incomes or as luxury goods. So it definitely matters.
- sonicggg 4y agoProblem is that, compared to US,Canada is not very self-sufficient. The average Canadian imports a lot of stuff. Kind of limited what you can grow in this frozen wasteland.
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- lewisl9029 4y agoCanadian tech employers have been completely myopic for decades, only willing to compete in salary against other local tech employers, while anyone who's actually any good can make 2x+ within a 3 hour drive south. This resulted in a ton of brain drain in the form of people physically moving out of Canada and into the US. (I was one of those people who were brain drained away.) Now people can make 2x+ within the comfort of their own homes, making it even easier for US tech companies to brain drain talent away from Canadian companies. Will that finally force them to change their ways or are they going to keep scraping the bottom of the ever depleting barrel? I honestly don't have a very positive outlook given the history here, but would love to be proven wrong.
- hawk_ 4y agoWho are these Canadian tech employers? Do they then sub contract work from other international companies or just targeting local (canadian) work?
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- mariuslandon 4y agoCanada
- gdilla 4y agoI live in Canada so I can worry less about school shootings and white supremacist terrorism. Yes it exists in Canada but the risk is much less.
- mbg721 4y agoThe risk is very close to zero in America too. There's a lot more worrying, though.
- francisperron 4y agoStop saying America for "United Stated of America", America is the continent... dumbass.