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Ads in an app which is being used for navigation while driving, are you serious? if so, then Google should be taken to court for reckless endangerment. In-app a

by acka 4y ago

Ads in an app which is being used for navigation while driving, are you serious? if so, then Google should be taken to court for reckless endangerment. In-app ads (tailored for attention grabbing and engagement) and safe driving are simply incompatible. No sane pilot would ever accept ads popping up on the controls in an airplane cockpit, so let's keep them away from a car's dashboard, too. The fewer distractions the better.

illiac786 4y ago
Waze used to show *full screen* ads when it detected that the car was standing still. Maybe they still do in some regions, they don't do it anymore where I live...
majormajor 4y ago
I haven't seen ads popping up while navigating, but I have been getting what appear to be ads in the direction read-outs, e.g. "In 500 feet, turn right at the Wendy's." Which is, honestly, one of the least-annoying types of ads I get on a regular basis. Sometimes it's much easier to follow than a street name anyway!
- miriam_catira 4y ago
  ... at what point I end up saying sh*t, I didn't see a Wendy's there, was this the right road? and having to interact with the app _again_ to determine if what I just did was correct. :/
  - darkwizard42 4y ago
    It does still show you the name of the street at the top directions card. This is part of the audio directions
- brassattax 4y ago
  Where I live this is the way we give directions (e.g. 2 blocks past McDonald's take a right), so to me it feels more natural than looking for a street name.
  - bch 4y ago
    Next level will be detecting if you’re local to the area and using descriptions of landmarks that used to be there but aren’t present anymore. Turn left where the Tastee-Freeze used to be.
    - kshacker 4y ago
      You missed it last time don't do that again :)
    - quesera 4y ago
      With apologies to Laurie Anderson: Hey Siri! How do I get to town from here? And she said: Well just take a right where they're going to build that new shopping mall Go straight past where they're going to put in the freeway Take a left at what's going to be the new sports center And keep going until you hit the place where They're thinking of building that drive-in bank You can't miss it. And I said: This must be the place
      - caycep 4y ago
        you never know, with GANs and transformer models, DALL-E type models, and stuff, Siri just might be able to come up with that in the near future
    - codegrappler 4y ago
      You know, the one where you tripped and chipped your tooth in the fourth grade…
- cyral 4y ago
  > Sometimes it's much easier to follow than a street name anyway! I think that is entirely the point. Apple Maps added something similar around a year ago, where it now says "After this light, ___" or "Take the next ____", which is much easier to understand than giving a street name that you have never heard of. It gets you to look at the road more than at the map which is a bonus for safety.
- darkwizard42 4y ago
  Just want to confirm that this is exactly why they mention it. It isn't ads so much as POIs (Points of Interest) are useful to use when navigating (sometimes more useful than streets).
  - majormajor 4y ago
    I've been suspecting ads because it's very limited in what businesses it will call out. Like, less than 5% of the time, I'd estimate.
    - smogcutter 4y ago
      Maybe I’m being too charitable, but I suspect it’s down to a few requirements: instantly/universally recognizable to drivers, easily visible from the street, located on corners, and always pronounced correctly by the maps voice. Fast food restaurants and other major chains fit that bill reliably enough that you could automate adding them to directions. Telling drivers to take a right at, say, a local restaurant that may not have an obvious sign could easily be worse than relying on street signs.
- mc32 4y ago
  Landmarks are great, especially something like a Clock Tower, Water Tower, etc., but things like Starbucks, and others come and go out of business. MacDonalds is an exception in that they own their real estate and are unlikely to move. But many others can lose their lease and become something new.
protastus 4y ago
I haven't seen ads in navigation mode.
WheatM 4y ago
adwi 4y ago
Google, at least via Waze, egregiously displays banner and pop-up ads.
- what_ever 4y ago
  ... when you are stopped in traffic or at a light. And IIRC, this was there before the Google acquisition? Disc: Googler but nowhere close to the products discussed here.
  - matty22 4y ago
    It shouldn't be showing ads at all, ever while in a car regardless of whether the car is moving or not. Maybe these ads are part of the reason every third stoplight I have to honk my horn because the guy ahead of me is dicking around on his phone after it turns green?
andrewxdiamond 4y ago
To maybe illustrate this a bit better, they are presented as location pins along the route, no banner or full screen ads. Pretty minimally distracting honestly

by acka 4y ago

illiac786 4y ago

Waze used to show *full screen* ads when it detected that the car was standing still. Maybe they still do in some regions, they don't do it anymore where I live...

majormajor 4y ago

I haven't seen ads popping up while navigating, but I have been getting what appear to be ads in the direction read-outs, e.g. "In 500 feet, turn right at the Wendy's." Which is, honestly, one of the least-annoying types of ads I get on a regular basis. Sometimes it's much easier to follow than a street name anyway!

miriam_catira 4y ago
... at what point I end up saying sh*t, I didn't see a Wendy's there, was this the right road? and having to interact with the app _again_ to determine if what I just did was correct. :/
- darkwizard42 4y ago
  It does still show you the name of the street at the top directions card. This is part of the audio directions
brassattax 4y ago
Where I live this is the way we give directions (e.g. 2 blocks past McDonald's take a right), so to me it feels more natural than looking for a street name.
- bch 4y ago
  Next level will be detecting if you’re local to the area and using descriptions of landmarks that used to be there but aren’t present anymore. Turn left where the Tastee-Freeze used to be.
  - kshacker 4y ago
    You missed it last time don't do that again :)
  - quesera 4y ago
    With apologies to Laurie Anderson: Hey Siri! How do I get to town from here? And she said: Well just take a right where they're going to build that new shopping mall Go straight past where they're going to put in the freeway Take a left at what's going to be the new sports center And keep going until you hit the place where They're thinking of building that drive-in bank You can't miss it. And I said: This must be the place
    - caycep 4y ago
      you never know, with GANs and transformer models, DALL-E type models, and stuff, Siri just might be able to come up with that in the near future
  - codegrappler 4y ago
    You know, the one where you tripped and chipped your tooth in the fourth grade…
cyral 4y ago
> Sometimes it's much easier to follow than a street name anyway! I think that is entirely the point. Apple Maps added something similar around a year ago, where it now says "After this light, ___" or "Take the next ____", which is much easier to understand than giving a street name that you have never heard of. It gets you to look at the road more than at the map which is a bonus for safety.
darkwizard42 4y ago
Just want to confirm that this is exactly why they mention it. It isn't ads so much as POIs (Points of Interest) are useful to use when navigating (sometimes more useful than streets).
- majormajor 4y ago
  I've been suspecting ads because it's very limited in what businesses it will call out. Like, less than 5% of the time, I'd estimate.
  - smogcutter 4y ago
    Maybe I’m being too charitable, but I suspect it’s down to a few requirements: instantly/universally recognizable to drivers, easily visible from the street, located on corners, and always pronounced correctly by the maps voice. Fast food restaurants and other major chains fit that bill reliably enough that you could automate adding them to directions. Telling drivers to take a right at, say, a local restaurant that may not have an obvious sign could easily be worse than relying on street signs.
mc32 4y ago
Landmarks are great, especially something like a Clock Tower, Water Tower, etc., but things like Starbucks, and others come and go out of business. MacDonalds is an exception in that they own their real estate and are unlikely to move. But many others can lose their lease and become something new.

protastus 4y ago

I haven't seen ads in navigation mode.

WheatM 4y ago

adwi 4y ago

Google, at least via Waze, egregiously displays banner and pop-up ads.

what_ever 4y ago
... when you are stopped in traffic or at a light. And IIRC, this was there before the Google acquisition? Disc: Googler but nowhere close to the products discussed here.
- matty22 4y ago
  It shouldn't be showing ads at all, ever while in a car regardless of whether the car is moving or not. Maybe these ads are part of the reason every third stoplight I have to honk my horn because the guy ahead of me is dicking around on his phone after it turns green?

andrewxdiamond 4y ago

To maybe illustrate this a bit better, they are presented as location pins along the route, no banner or full screen ads. Pretty minimally distracting honestly