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> I don't think it's ethical to evaluate a candidate's interactions when they weren't informed they were being evaluated. That makes about as much sense as say
by hnarn 4y ago
> I don't think it's ethical to evaluate a candidate's interactions when they weren't informed they were being evaluated.
That makes about as much sense as saying that you shouldn’t be held responsible for stealing office supplies because no one informed you that there were cameras installed.
If you treat cab drivers and other service personnel badly, that’s because you’re a shit person. It’s really that simple. I’ve been in extremely stressful situations in my life involving lots of travel and I’ve yet to “take it out” on a third party.
- Melatonic 4y agoI generally apply a similar test when dating - if the person is a huge asshole to the service staff then it generally is not going anywhere
- geocrasher 4y agoGiant red flag, indeed.
- bee_rider 4y agoSorry, unless you tell them you are testing their dateablilty you have to ignore any behavior on their part.
- DFHippie 4y agoThis needs a "/s".
- bee_rider 4y agoSarcasm is a rhetorical trust-fall, I refuse to cheapen it by adding the /s.
- SilasX 4y agoThen you refuse to be a helpful contributor to discussions. Life is littered with cases where people thought they understood each other but didn’t. If there’s a chance you’ll be misinterpreted, you’re not communicating well and need to take steps to correct it, just out of general empathy for those who don’t have the exact same knowledge as you.
- bee_rider 4y agoIn conversations where optimizing the productivity of the discussion is a priority, I would not use sarcasm.
- SilasX 4y agoAnd you don't see HN as that kind of place?
- bee_rider 4y agoThis site has lots of good technical discussions, but it is not a place I'd go to pick up dating tips.
- SilasX 4y agoI think the question was about productivity of discussion.
- bee_rider 4y agoSome discussions are serious and follow the core competency of the site (technical ones for example). For these discussions, it is best to avoid sarcasm and non-obvious forms of communication. Some discussions are not serious, and are destined not to be really productive anyway. Dating advice falls into that category. Is ignoring context like this your idea of being a "helpful contributor to discussions?" Because I don't see who's being helped by this.
- testware 4y agoSorry, you didn't tell me it was sarcasm so I can't be blamed for believing it.
- bee_rider 4y agothis needs a "/s".
- jokab 4y ago#realtalk
- wolverine876 4y ago> If you treat cab drivers and other service personnel badly, that’s because you’re a shit person. That attitude seems the same one that judges service workers. IME, and based on what I know of humanity, people act badly because they feel vulnerable; they are scared or anxious. It's still bad behavior, but they aren't 'shit people'. If bad behavior damns us, then we all qualify. The mistake is judging others, and lacking empathy and humility. > I’ve been in extremely stressful situations in my life involving lots of travel and I’ve yet to “take it out” on a third party. We all act badly sometimes; if you really think you don't, you are not seeing it. It's not ok in the situation, but it's ok in terms of our humanity. Apologize and work to do better.
- dolebirchwood 4y agoThese are reasonable points in the context of normal everyday life. However, when making a hiring decision, there are likely to be several competent candidates who could all do the job just as well as any other. If you've got an easy way to filter out potentially problematic candidates based on their soft skills, might as well do so to avoid a bad hire. There's no room for giving the benefit of the doubt in this context.
- wolverine876 4y agoPerhaps, but that doesn't make the candidate a 'shit person'.
- johnnyanmac 4y ago>There's no room for giving the benefit of the doubt in this context. really depends on the candidate and the situation. We dont have the context for neither here. If a truly senior candidate who has deep domain knowledge interviews, they may not be dinged as much if they gave a service worker a low tip or complained about the smell of the car. But sure, for some college candidate in a yearly hiring spree that are all from top schools, maybe that is the little bit of a filter needed to make a difference.
- yes_really 4y agoIf you cheat on your partner you are also a "shit person". Do you think employers should reject candidates if they know they cheated on a romantic relationship?
- Spinnaker_ 4y agoHonestly, if I somehow knew that the candidate cheated on their partner, then yes, I would reject them. I doubt I will ever find myself in that position. I did have a coworker cheat on their spouse. I certainly lost respect for them, avoided working with them whenever possible, and cut off the non-professional aspect of our relationship.
- mariodiana 4y agoI recall Ross Perot saying, "If your wife can't trust you, how can I."
- rthille 4y agoOnce again, WE WERE ON A BREAK!
- kbelder 4y agoI'd treat that similarly to finding that the person had embezzled money before. I wouldn't want a person of that character anywhere around me or my business.