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This is the kind of thing Nokia used to put out when their main product was stagnant and they were inept at software, but also paying hundreds of millions to ad
by pavlov 5y ago
This is the kind of thing Nokia used to put out when their main product was stagnant and they were inept at software, but also paying hundreds of millions to ad agencies and design consultancies to come up with brand coolness band-aids.
- dr_ 5y agoTheir Telluride is one of the hottest selling SUVs, it's pretty difficult to buy. Hyundai/Kia seem to be on a tear right now with their newer vehicles.
- Flemlord 5y agoI just bought a Telluride on Monday and love it. It is the highest ranked car on Consumer Reports across all vehicle types. I don't think this is an indicator of a company in trouble. My last 3 cars were Teslas.
- Gunnerhead 5y agoDo you still have a Tesla too or got rid of it? Why? If you don't mind me asking, of course.
- SkyPuncher 5y agoI've had a Palisade for 2 years (same car basically). Extremely happy with it. The lane centering is fantastic for high way driving.
- skellera 5y agoAre you happier with it than your teslas?
- 2143 5y ago> My last 3 cars were Teslas. You bought 3 Teslas back to back?! You must really love it. Why did you then move to the Telluride? I thought Tesla lasts really long. So why 3?
- thebigman433 5y agoCant speak for the OP, but they mightve been leasing them on year long terms
- 2143 5y agoAh got it. Leasing is virtually not done where I'm from, so it didn't cross my mind.
- Carioca 5y agoMight be a case of the opposite, having hired too much talent and not having enough things to put them onto
- Retric 5y agoThe Telluride’s US sales only hit 93,705 in 2021 well below Honda Pilot at 143,062 and their both dwarfed by 407,739 for the RAV4.
- mox1 5y agoThat’s because they projected to sell like 50k. Also different car markets / segments (small, midsized vs large suv)
- Retric 5y agoPilot’s length, width, and height are within an inch of each other that seems like the same size category to me. 2022 Telluride is 196.9“ X 78.3” X 68.9” 2022 Honda Pilot is 196.5” X 78.6” X 70.6” and a slightly more expensive MSRP. The RAV4 is noticeably smaller and cheaper, but still an SUV and seemed like a useful benchmark. PS: They sold 75,129 in 2020, and 58,604 in 2019, so I don’t think they expected it to tank to 50k in 2021. Still probably supply limited in 2021 but so was just about every car company.
- linsomniac 5y agoThe RAV4 is a behemoth, having sold over 10 million over the years. Yes, the RAV4 is a benchmark to compare the Telluride to, but they ARE in both different cost brackets and categories. Pilot seems to be a better benchmark. Another useful benchmark is that for 2021, Toyota global sales were almost 9.6M, Kia was almost 2.8M. Honda Pilot is a Midsize Crossover SUV, like the Telluride, and had 2021 sales of 143K in the US. Honda global sales were 4.5M in 2021. So the Telluride can still be a success for Kia, while selling a fraction of the units of the RAV4
- kova12 5y agoPretty much every new car on the market is difficult to buy...
- dagmx 5y agoKia and Hyundai are putting out some of the more exciting products right now in the car industry, and have announced quite a few to follow. I really doubt it's stagnation.
- tgtweak 5y agoI mean they made a big air filter out of an ioniq5... Kind of bolsters OPs claims. Still better than stupid commercials for marketing dollars.
- ethbr0 5y agoThere are only two car commercials. Everything else is a pale imitation. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_ve4M4UsJQo https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_ve4M4UsJQo
- dantheman0207 5y agoWhat's the other one?
- ethbr0 5y agoRidley Scott's 300ZXTT
- jeffbee 5y agoLiterally advertising the turbo lag. Still a cool spot. Car ads in the 90s were so much better. “Enjoy the ride” was another good Nissan one.
- travisgriggs 5y agoMaybe the Honda Choir? I dunno. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UO5Was4Wf1k https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UO5Was4Wf1k
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- faangiq 5y agoIt’s an industry based purely on capture with no innovation besides Tesla for 35 years.
- vosper 5y agoThere are Priuses everywhere, so you can hardly say that only Tesla innovates.
- dymk 5y ago"They're everywhere" doesn't mean they innovate, it means they're cheap and good enough. The Prius has been incremental for the last 20 years.
- vosper 5y ago> "They're everywhere" doesn't mean they innovate, it means they're cheap and good enough. I'd argue that in the case of the Prius it means that they were a successful innovation. And the original claim was 35 years, not 20 :)
- vehemenz 5y agoElectric cars for rich people is innovation?
- rpmisms 5y agoYes, because previously there were no good electric cars, not even for rich people.
- gnz11 5y agoGood as in quality or good as in looks? I seem to read a lot about Tesla and poor reliability. https://www.sfgate.com/tech/amp/Tesla-ranks-almost-dead-last-Consumer-Reports-16632996.php https://www.sfgate.com/tech/amp/Tesla-ranks-almost-dead-last...
- spoonjim 5y agoKia is one of the fastest growing car brands, probably #2 after Tesla.
- millerm 5y ago"brand-aids"