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> There's also the psychological part that HBO Max allows me to pay for the whole year upfront (Netflix doesn't) so I can close my eyes and just pay them $100 a

> There's also the psychological part that HBO Max allows me to pay for the whole year upfront (Netflix doesn't) so I can close my eyes and just pay them $100 and be done with it. Interesting. My behavior has been that when someone recommends a show on Netflix and I decide I want to watch it it subscribe and cancel which means I pay for 1 month. I watch the show. I've tried browsing for others but hate browsing on Netflix. I'm happy that "I'm done with it" immediately and that I'm not billed anymore. Netflix makes it super easy to start again, and to cancel and also like that having it cancelled provides a tiny hurdle against binging random stuff.

bhaak 4y ago
> I've tried browsing for others but hate browsing on Netflix. Is this Netflix or do you hate browsing on other streaming services as well? Regarding UI IMO Netflix is still top. Disney+ is somewhat close in handling but noticeably slower and you notice its focus on movies. Series are not as easily navigatable as on Netflix. Amazon Prime is abysmal. They don't even group different seasons of a series together. Here in Switzerland, it's even worse, I get a mix of French and German stuff recommended.
- watwut 4y ago
  Not OP, but Netfix UI is uniquely bad. It looks good ... and make it impossible to find shows you might like and be at mood for ... despite them actually being there.
- yupyup54133 4y ago
  I also do not like browsing for content on Netflix because whenever I pause on a title it starts playing trailer with sound when what I really want to do is look at the average user rating and read the premise blurb.
  - FredPret 4y ago
    That is so bad; I always mute my TV when browsing Netflix
  - sunnytimes 4y ago
    you can turn that off in the settings.
    - cout 4y ago
      Where is that in the settings?
      - skatanski 4y ago
        If you open Netflix in browser, go to account settings, then select specific profiles dropdown, there are playback settings at the end. You can disable automatic playback during browsing. Its really useful with kids.
      - joncrocks 4y ago
        https://help.netflix.com/en/node/2102 https://help.netflix.com/en/node/2102
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  - bhaak 4y ago
    I'm partial on that. I sometimes want the trailer and sometimes don't want it. But with the mute button this is easy mitigated. The mute button is one of the most used buttons on my remote anyway.
- StillBored 4y ago
  I don't understand how anyone can say the netflix UI is anything other than trash. Part of people's problem with netflix is that it shows them maybe 100 different shows out of the couple thousand they have at any given time, for the rest you basically have to use a 3rd party to discover them. Sure its prettier than it was back when they put everything in a giant tree/list, but now its a dozen or so vertical categories with 20 or so horizontal items and it doesn't even bother to deduplicate shows out of multiple similar rows. The best netflixy way for me to discover new shows is to log into my wife's profile where she has a 100 different romance/etc movies. Otherwise "whats-on-netflix.com" for example does a better job than netflix itself, including showing a complete list of new additions, and removals, etc.
  - reaperducer 4y ago
    I don't understand how anyone can say the netflix UI is anything other than trash. Perhaps because the UI varies from device to device.
    - nescioquid 4y ago
      When I first had the thought that the UI was trash, it occurred to me that the point of the UI is to drive the user's behavior and not the other way around. I think there's an "In Soviet Russia..." joke around here somewhere.
    - tomrod 4y ago
      Yeah it's more of a garbage-in garbage-out status nowadays regardless of device.
    - yurishimo 4y ago
      Huh? It’s pretty obvious Netflix uses the same UI across all of its platforms. It might be condensed slightly on smaller screens, but it’s the exact same interface.
    - SalimoS 4y ago
      Can’t agree more, the difference in watching Netflix on Xbox one and Apple TV is noticeable (also the fact that there isn’t integration with the Apple TV app is the solo reason I’m most likely to finish my tv show from Amazon prime compared to Netflix (because let’s face it it’s not Netflix and chill anymore now we have to check more than a sub. app to find what to watch
- alistairSH 4y ago
  Not the OP, but I hate browsing on most/all the platforms. But Netflix seems to be worse than average and that's an already low bar. Things that rustle me... - recommending movies/shows I've already watched. There are very few shows I want to rewatch. - recommending trash reality shows. I rarely watch them. - recommending too many shows that are in a foreign language. I will watch foreign shows, but most of my viewing it's just background noise while I workout or something else where I can't easily watch subtitles. - Auto-playing trailers. It's annoying and loud.
- vladvasiliu 4y ago
  > Amazon Prime is abysmal. They don't even group different seasons of a series together. Here in Switzerland, it's even worse, I get a mix of French and German stuff recommended. I haven't noticed this in France. For a given series, there's a "season" dropdown that has all the seasons, even some which may be unavailable. However, I hate dubbed movies and series, and I hate that I can't filter out those titles that, for some reason, only offer a French dubbed version.
  - GekkePrutser 4y ago
    Yeah in Spain too.."the user is in Spain so will want Spanish dubbing". Uhhh. The dubbing is also horribly done with bored voices that don't match the actors at all. Yet native language (+ subs if native is not English) is often unavailable. Especially on prime
- jimbokun 4y ago
  HBO Max buffers content and fails to play all the time for me (on Samsung Smart TV), which almost never happens with Netflix. I love a lot of HBO Max content (especially Turner Classic Movies) but the app is experience is painful.
  - colinmhayes 4y ago
    Yea HBO's app is incredibly broken. I don't understand how the rewind button is still broken. At least 20% of the time when I rewind the app crashes, how is that even possible in 2022? Seems like they're doing it on purpose to try to get you to pay attention.
    - jaegerpicker 4y ago
      The state of media Apps in General is REALLY low. Paramount+ makes me turn on subtitles for EVERY episode and ignores the system settings, HBO Max's app is a dumpster fire, Netflix doesn't integrate with Apple TV or the algo driven listings are terrible, Hulu is a broken mess all around. In fact the only media app I enjoy using is Apple TV+/TV.app.
      - SalimoS 4y ago
        Amazon prime UI and search is kinda shit, but if I found an interesting show to watch (to be honest I’m using tiktok as my recommandation engine) I search for it then continue watching from the Apple TV app
- bengale 4y ago
  The Netflix decision that is causing me the most aggravation is that they are the only service I use that doesn't integrate with the watch next bar on Apple TV. I forget that I'm watching something, especially if they are doing weekly episode drops, and then lose interest if I've forgotten what's going on. Everybody else is able to add their new episode to that bar so I can work through my backlog, and even pop new seasons in there if I've watched the show in the past. It feels like they're making decisions to suit themselves rather than me and it winds me up considering they are the more expensive subscription.
  - mark_l_watson 4y ago
    +1 Netflix not integrating with Apple TV is a pain for me also - for everything else, I often search on Apple TV.
  - jaegerpicker 4y ago
    That's huge pain. I love my Apple TV and I'm much more likely to cancel netflix than not use the ATV. I also really love the TV app and Watch next, for apps that work with it it's such a great UI IMO.
    - dwighttk 4y ago
      I like up next/ watch now on Apple TV However it is irritating that shows I’ve purchased from the iTunes Store occasionally lose their blessed status§ and I can neither put them in up next nor even have the show’s page open to the episode I last watched. Unless I binge the whole show in one sitting I’m gonna be scrolling horizontally past a lot of episodes every time I sit down to watch. § my hypothesis is that it is when the package I bought them in gets taken off iTunes (e.g. I got the complete Downton Abbey, but for a few weeks they were doing a every episode and the movie package and you couldn’t buy just all the seasons together, that one even lost its blessed status while I was watching the show, which was a mystifying experience)
- chrisseaton 4y ago
  > Here in Switzerland, it's even worse, I get a mix of French and German stuff recommended. Isn’t that right for Switzerland? What’s the issue?
  - GekkePrutser 4y ago
    That's how Americans view Europe, yes. "The user lives in Switzerland so they speak both" :) in reality there's German-speaking Swiss and French-speaking ones. In fact there's even Italian-speaking ones but they don't usually make the cut for services like this. The division is pretty much divided by region and heritage. They will technically speak both but will not prefer to. Also besides the languages there's also a cultural difference. And Swiss-German is quite different from German/Austrian German too but let's not get into that. Just bunching all the content "because your country is .ch so you will like all of this stuff" is such a typical American oversimplification.
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    - seanmcdirmid 4y ago
      > They will technically speak both but will not prefer to. Well, there are places in Switzerland like Bern that are officially and pragmatically bilingual.
      - GekkePrutser 4y ago
        Yes but many are not. And more importantly: many of its inhabitants are not. It's this American view that the whole world is 'like America with just a different locale setting' I find really annoying.
        chrisseaton 4y ago
        In the UK we have many Asian shows on Netflix. We watch them on captions. It's not has hard as you'd imagine. Give it a go!
- Semaphor 4y ago
  Prime is better than Netflix on desktop. They worked hard to get there, but they finally ruined the website enough that both my Android TVs Netflix app and prime are better. It took me a while to even figure out how to show some minimal information about a show that was more than name and thumb.
NearAP 4y ago
yes, that makes sense for your use case i.e. you're not 'interested' in subscribing in general but you only want to watch a specific show. For me, if I want to get the package (in general and not for a specific instance), I'd rather pay upfront (so far as it's not expensive) than the monthly subscription. Psychologically, I feel like - 'I just eat the cost and I'm done'. So I'd rather just pay you $100 for the entire year or say $60 for the entire year of Sirius XM than a monthly thing.

bhaak 4y ago

> I've tried browsing for others but hate browsing on Netflix. Is this Netflix or do you hate browsing on other streaming services as well? Regarding UI IMO Netflix is still top. Disney+ is somewhat close in handling but noticeably slower and you notice its focus on movies. Series are not as easily navigatable as on Netflix. Amazon Prime is abysmal. They don't even group different seasons of a series together. Here in Switzerland, it's even worse, I get a mix of French and German stuff recommended.

watwut 4y ago
Not OP, but Netfix UI is uniquely bad. It looks good ... and make it impossible to find shows you might like and be at mood for ... despite them actually being there.
yupyup54133 4y ago
I also do not like browsing for content on Netflix because whenever I pause on a title it starts playing trailer with sound when what I really want to do is look at the average user rating and read the premise blurb.
- FredPret 4y ago
  That is so bad; I always mute my TV when browsing Netflix
- sunnytimes 4y ago
  you can turn that off in the settings.
  - cout 4y ago
    Where is that in the settings?
    - skatanski 4y ago
      If you open Netflix in browser, go to account settings, then select specific profiles dropdown, there are playback settings at the end. You can disable automatic playback during browsing. Its really useful with kids.
    - joncrocks 4y ago
      https://help.netflix.com/en/node/2102 https://help.netflix.com/en/node/2102
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- bhaak 4y ago
  I'm partial on that. I sometimes want the trailer and sometimes don't want it. But with the mute button this is easy mitigated. The mute button is one of the most used buttons on my remote anyway.
StillBored 4y ago
I don't understand how anyone can say the netflix UI is anything other than trash. Part of people's problem with netflix is that it shows them maybe 100 different shows out of the couple thousand they have at any given time, for the rest you basically have to use a 3rd party to discover them. Sure its prettier than it was back when they put everything in a giant tree/list, but now its a dozen or so vertical categories with 20 or so horizontal items and it doesn't even bother to deduplicate shows out of multiple similar rows. The best netflixy way for me to discover new shows is to log into my wife's profile where she has a 100 different romance/etc movies. Otherwise "whats-on-netflix.com" for example does a better job than netflix itself, including showing a complete list of new additions, and removals, etc.
- reaperducer 4y ago
  I don't understand how anyone can say the netflix UI is anything other than trash. Perhaps because the UI varies from device to device.
  - nescioquid 4y ago
    When I first had the thought that the UI was trash, it occurred to me that the point of the UI is to drive the user's behavior and not the other way around. I think there's an "In Soviet Russia..." joke around here somewhere.
  - tomrod 4y ago
    Yeah it's more of a garbage-in garbage-out status nowadays regardless of device.
  - yurishimo 4y ago
    Huh? It’s pretty obvious Netflix uses the same UI across all of its platforms. It might be condensed slightly on smaller screens, but it’s the exact same interface.
  - SalimoS 4y ago
    Can’t agree more, the difference in watching Netflix on Xbox one and Apple TV is noticeable (also the fact that there isn’t integration with the Apple TV app is the solo reason I’m most likely to finish my tv show from Amazon prime compared to Netflix (because let’s face it it’s not Netflix and chill anymore now we have to check more than a sub. app to find what to watch
alistairSH 4y ago
Not the OP, but I hate browsing on most/all the platforms. But Netflix seems to be worse than average and that's an already low bar. Things that rustle me... - recommending movies/shows I've already watched. There are very few shows I want to rewatch. - recommending trash reality shows. I rarely watch them. - recommending too many shows that are in a foreign language. I will watch foreign shows, but most of my viewing it's just background noise while I workout or something else where I can't easily watch subtitles. - Auto-playing trailers. It's annoying and loud.
vladvasiliu 4y ago
> Amazon Prime is abysmal. They don't even group different seasons of a series together. Here in Switzerland, it's even worse, I get a mix of French and German stuff recommended. I haven't noticed this in France. For a given series, there's a "season" dropdown that has all the seasons, even some which may be unavailable. However, I hate dubbed movies and series, and I hate that I can't filter out those titles that, for some reason, only offer a French dubbed version.
- GekkePrutser 4y ago
  Yeah in Spain too.."the user is in Spain so will want Spanish dubbing". Uhhh. The dubbing is also horribly done with bored voices that don't match the actors at all. Yet native language (+ subs if native is not English) is often unavailable. Especially on prime
jimbokun 4y ago
HBO Max buffers content and fails to play all the time for me (on Samsung Smart TV), which almost never happens with Netflix. I love a lot of HBO Max content (especially Turner Classic Movies) but the app is experience is painful.
- colinmhayes 4y ago
  Yea HBO's app is incredibly broken. I don't understand how the rewind button is still broken. At least 20% of the time when I rewind the app crashes, how is that even possible in 2022? Seems like they're doing it on purpose to try to get you to pay attention.
  - jaegerpicker 4y ago
    The state of media Apps in General is REALLY low. Paramount+ makes me turn on subtitles for EVERY episode and ignores the system settings, HBO Max's app is a dumpster fire, Netflix doesn't integrate with Apple TV or the algo driven listings are terrible, Hulu is a broken mess all around. In fact the only media app I enjoy using is Apple TV+/TV.app.
    - SalimoS 4y ago
      Amazon prime UI and search is kinda shit, but if I found an interesting show to watch (to be honest I’m using tiktok as my recommandation engine) I search for it then continue watching from the Apple TV app
bengale 4y ago
The Netflix decision that is causing me the most aggravation is that they are the only service I use that doesn't integrate with the watch next bar on Apple TV. I forget that I'm watching something, especially if they are doing weekly episode drops, and then lose interest if I've forgotten what's going on. Everybody else is able to add their new episode to that bar so I can work through my backlog, and even pop new seasons in there if I've watched the show in the past. It feels like they're making decisions to suit themselves rather than me and it winds me up considering they are the more expensive subscription.
- mark_l_watson 4y ago
  +1 Netflix not integrating with Apple TV is a pain for me also - for everything else, I often search on Apple TV.
- jaegerpicker 4y ago
  That's huge pain. I love my Apple TV and I'm much more likely to cancel netflix than not use the ATV. I also really love the TV app and Watch next, for apps that work with it it's such a great UI IMO.
  - dwighttk 4y ago
    I like up next/ watch now on Apple TV However it is irritating that shows I’ve purchased from the iTunes Store occasionally lose their blessed status§ and I can neither put them in up next nor even have the show’s page open to the episode I last watched. Unless I binge the whole show in one sitting I’m gonna be scrolling horizontally past a lot of episodes every time I sit down to watch. § my hypothesis is that it is when the package I bought them in gets taken off iTunes (e.g. I got the complete Downton Abbey, but for a few weeks they were doing a every episode and the movie package and you couldn’t buy just all the seasons together, that one even lost its blessed status while I was watching the show, which was a mystifying experience)
chrisseaton 4y ago
> Here in Switzerland, it's even worse, I get a mix of French and German stuff recommended. Isn’t that right for Switzerland? What’s the issue?
- GekkePrutser 4y ago
  That's how Americans view Europe, yes. "The user lives in Switzerland so they speak both" :) in reality there's German-speaking Swiss and French-speaking ones. In fact there's even Italian-speaking ones but they don't usually make the cut for services like this. The division is pretty much divided by region and heritage. They will technically speak both but will not prefer to. Also besides the languages there's also a cultural difference. And Swiss-German is quite different from German/Austrian German too but let's not get into that. Just bunching all the content "because your country is .ch so you will like all of this stuff" is such a typical American oversimplification.
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  - seanmcdirmid 4y ago
    > They will technically speak both but will not prefer to. Well, there are places in Switzerland like Bern that are officially and pragmatically bilingual.
    - GekkePrutser 4y ago
      Yes but many are not. And more importantly: many of its inhabitants are not. It's this American view that the whole world is 'like America with just a different locale setting' I find really annoying.
      - chrisseaton 4y ago
        In the UK we have many Asian shows on Netflix. We watch them on captions. It's not has hard as you'd imagine. Give it a go!
Semaphor 4y ago
Prime is better than Netflix on desktop. They worked hard to get there, but they finally ruined the website enough that both my Android TVs Netflix app and prime are better. It took me a while to even figure out how to show some minimal information about a show that was more than name and thumb.

NearAP 4y ago

yes, that makes sense for your use case i.e. you're not 'interested' in subscribing in general but you only want to watch a specific show. For me, if I want to get the package (in general and not for a specific instance), I'd rather pay upfront (so far as it's not expensive) than the monthly subscription. Psychologically, I feel like - 'I just eat the cost and I'm done'. So I'd rather just pay you $100 for the entire year or say $60 for the entire year of Sirius XM than a monthly thing.