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Polite advice: I'd suggest that only those from the UK, South Africa, New Zealand and Australia and other outposts where black yeast extracts are consumed comme
by hilbert42 5y ago
Polite advice: I'd suggest that only those from the UK, South Africa, New Zealand and Australia and other outposts where black yeast extracts are consumed comment on this story.
Those in the US and elsewhere can watch on in amusement.
Warning: Australians and other Vegemite consumers please refrain from denigrating lovers of Marmite.
:-)
- dghughes 5y agoI don't think it ever caught on in Canada. I've don't recall ever hearing of anyone talking about Marmite. Neither grandparents or any ancestor stories, no talk of it.
- lebuffon 5y agoMarmite is available in many grocery stores in here but commonly in the international foods aisle. My local store (rural Ontario) put in the baking section with the yeast. LOL
- achr2 5y agoWhile certainly not a customary staple, it is commonly available here (and delicious). Marmite and PB on toast, yum.
- hanselot 5y agoBovril is vastly superior.
- executesorder66 5y agoI agree, but Bovril is not made from yeast extract like Marmite is. So not really the same kind of product.
- detritus 5y agoActually, it's over a quarter yeast extract. To be honest, having just checked, I think that's less than it was a while back, as I'm sure I recall being disappointed upon seeing the ingredients, and putting a jar back on the shelf after picking it up on a whim a while ago. I just stick to my stock pots in hot water... .
- tertius 5y agoYes, a clearly superior product.
- timbaboon 5y agoSouth African here and I have nothing polite to say about Marmite ;)
- mousetree 5y agoSouth African here and I agree.
- lelanthran 5y agoAlso South African, also agree.
- hilbert42 5y agoSee comment above.
- hilbert42 5y agoSo what's all the fuss about then? Surely someone there eats (and presumably likes) it. My departed mother and aunts loved the stuff but I'll eat it out of desperation/under sufferance when Vegemite isn't available. Where both products are available in a bousehold there's never-ending wars over which is best. That's almost inevitable. :-)
- SuoDuanDao 5y agoIt's an extremely salty, umami taste. Both flavours most people like, but too much of a good thing for the unprepared palatte. I like a thin layer of X-mite between a piece of toast and a fried egg. I find eggs need a lot of salt, so X-mite is a good combination.
- adnmcq999 5y agoI’m American and I ate a pretty good amount when I lived in the UK bc it’s high in B vitamins. I made this “sandwich” with a crumpet, polish mayo (winiary), marmite and sometimes a scotch egg and/or sauerkraut. It was disgusting, I mostly created it b/c it was cheap, but it was a staple of mine and a very British one at that (aside from the kraut). The polish mayo is an import but I’d still say very london at this point, I got it from sainsburys, but could just as well have picked it up from any number of polish stores. Anyway, marmite’s alright.
- wodenokoto 5y agoIs miso paste basically soybased marmite or are there any inherent differences?
- denton-scratch 5y agoMiso paste is made from fermented soybeans and often used to make soup; marmite is made from yeast extract, and usually spread on toast. They're both salty and brown. Otherwise they have little in common.
- cannam 5y agoI just experimented with putting a thin layer of shiro miso on my buttered toast. It didn't quite work for me. Miso flavour turns out to be very compatible with toast but my test miso didn't have enough tang to cut through properly, so the impression it left was dominated by salt. Marmite and relatives are salty as well, but they have more bite in the flavour.
- L_Rahman 5y agoYou might find that aka miso or doenjang have a flavor profile closer to what you're looking for.
- pseudotrash 5y agoTry freshly chopped celery, or carrot sticks and stick it into some fresh miso as if it were ketchup. Beautiful...
- marssaxman 5y agoI like a smear of miso paste inside a grilled cheese sandwich.
- hilbert42 5y agoFYI: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marmite https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marmite
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- rusanu 5y agoHere is an alternative read for some of us: https://www.bbc.com/travel/article/20220417-ajvar-the-vegan-caviar-of-the-balkans https://www.bbc.com/travel/article/20220417-ajvar-the-vegan-...
- cannam 5y agoFollowing up a week later just to say thank you for this link - I hadn't heard of this stuff, but have now found a source of it. It's delicious.
- twic 5y agoDid anyone else see that apparently Marmite isn't even the best marmite? Somehow ze Germans have improved on it. https://www.which.co.uk/reviews/food-and-drink/article/marmite-vs-supermarket-yeast-extract-spreads-aN0yL9M8qgZb https://www.which.co.uk/reviews/food-and-drink/article/marmi...
- phatfish 5y agoThis rang some major alarm bells. "Marmite got a decent score overall, but tasters weren’t bowled over by it, with more than half finding it too strong in flavour and too thick. Some also found it more difficult to spread compared with the own-label options." I expect the Aldi and other alternatives are watered-down fake Marmite for woke wimps who want yeast extract spreads to be more "inclusive". This country is toast.
- progre 5y agoBroad inclussion makes a country stronger, not weaker. Germany has tried the "pure" route once before, it did not end well
- overboard2 5y agoGermany's "pure" route did not end well because they attacked others for being pure. Just because a culture has oddities which do not fit with a wider culture, it doesn't mean that the former should be reduced.
- bobthechef 5y agoA sense of humor would be appropriate here. (A digression, since you made the point. This isn't a contest between Nazism and a free-for-all. A society can be overly inclusive, of bad behaviors, ideologies, and other objective threats to its common good, in which case such inclusiveness does weaken the country[0]. I think it is fair to say you'd want to exclude Nazism and other aberrations from your country's political order?) [0] https://edwardfeser.blogspot.com/2022/01/barron-on-diversity-equity-and-inclusion.html https://edwardfeser.blogspot.com/2022/01/barron-on-diversity...
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- microtherion 5y agoSome of us Swiss consume https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cenovis https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cenovis but I would not consider ourselves a British outpost.
- recuter 5y agoIt is similar to English Marmite and Australian Vegemite. OK, well those two things are completely different so clearly Cenovis is inferior to both. Even mentioning the English version is lame.
- michaelscott 5y agoHaving tried both I would not consider Cenovis similar to Marmite at all. More like distant second cousins at best
- hilbert42 5y agoApologies indeed! 'Outposts' as in those who live in 'odd' parts of the world where such delicacies are consumed and appreciated. (Despite derogatory comments below you still qualify - see my Wiki quote re Vegemite to dfxm12!) :-)
- boredumb 5y agoNutritional yeast is pretty popular in the states.
- quadrangle 5y agoI love nutritional yeast! Have never tried marmite though. Is it similar at all besides being yeast-based?
- yissp 5y agoThey both have a similar savory / umami flavor, but Marmite is much, much more intense and also quite salty unlike nutritional yeast.
- Lio 5y ago...and for those in New Zealand, this is not what you guys call "Marmite". I have no idea what's up with that but it's wrong. :P Real Marmite should not be sweet. Ever. That's just ...wrong[1]. I once stayed a mate's parents in New Zealand and luckily they had a jar of the good stuff for me, sold there as "My Mate". I think down to some kind of pre-war licensing shenanigans. 1. I'll let it slip though as Kiwi lemonade is awesome.
- minton 5y agoKiwi lemonade?
- Lio 5y agoAh yeah I should clarify that, the lemonade that New Zealanders aka Kiwis have locally. I can't quite remember the brand. Might have been L&P or something.
- ravenstine 5y agoYeah, L&P (Lemon & Peoroa). Good stuff! Though I remember it being carbonated.
- Matsta 5y agoL&P is indeed carbonated. Used to be reasonably easy to get in the UK, but almost impossible since covid. You won't find non carbonated, yellow lemonade in NZ. As mentioned above, you'll just get sprite.
- ravenstine 5y agoOh yeah, that seems about right. I haven't been back there in 15 years, but when I lived there I encountered some oddities like that (as an American), and that fact sounds familiar. I was also a bit stunned when I had ketchup there, because it's different from American ketchup. Much sweeter, not much vinegar, if any. The hotdogs were also different. When I went to high school (i.e. college) there, one day they had "American hotdog day", and they were like no hotdog I had in America. They were more like those red hot link sausages (which I've never seen anyone eat in America even though I've seen them in grocery stores). So that with their own version of ketchup made for an interesting experience, and was a neat allegory for how different parts of the world see each other. Great place, that NZ. I really do miss it. Maybe I'll go back once once they finally chill out about COVID.
- wincy 5y agoHah I’m American and bought Marmite because Kenji Lopez Alt of Serious Eats fame suggested it as a great way to add Umami flavoring to a dish. I mostly add it to other dishes, such as an ingredient in pot roast, but I did try it a thin layer on toast with some butter and I like it! Very intense but interesting flavor. My kids and wife go “yuuuck!” When they see the jar, though.
- klik99 5y agoMarmite vs Vegemite is a niche holy war of emacs vs vi levels - literally noone outside cares. Being in Shanghai with a bunch of UK and Aussie expats it came up a lot. I'm Marmite/Emacs myself.
- hilbert42 5y agoExactly, and you're dead right only the protagonists care. BTW, the War's been running nearly a century,
- Tevias 5y agoI am now imagining this on dating platforms: Male/white/he,his/Marmite/Vi
- hemreldop 5y agoAlready said male, no pronouns needed
- AdamJacobMuller 5y ago> Marmite vs Vegemite is a niche holy war of emacs vs vi levels I'm deeply offended by this. I started to write up a comment in my head about how this is a completely false equivalency, Marmite and Vegemite are basically the same thing: two brands of yeast paste while Vi vs Emacs are two very distinct editors with very distinct features. I was going to indignantly point out that while a Vi user put in front of emacs would be hard-pressed to see ANY similarities a vegemite fan given marmite probably couldn't tell the difference! Then I realized: I am the problem and decided to adapt my comment for fake internet points. Vi is definitely better though.
- bostik 5y agoCan Finns, with our love of Salmiak, tag along?