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Hi everyone! I'm the lead developer of Zas Editor. I wanted to share some details about the editor you might be interested in. The text-storage data structure,

by Annili 4y ago

Hi everyone! I'm the lead developer of Zas Editor. I wanted to share some details about the editor you might be interested in. The text-storage data structure, syntax highlighting and search features are written in Rust, and the UI is written in Swift since we wanted to create a native macOS experience. The Swift and Rust code talk to each other using C FFI, and no, that doesn’t take away the safety features of both languages. We’re using the Rope data structure for text representation, and the tree-sitter parser for syntax highlighting and some smart features like file outline, local renaming and symbol search. All other language features are powered by LSP servers (rust-analzyer and gopls). I’d be happy to answer any questions under this comment or anywhere else in this thread.

andrem 4y ago
The payment process is a little tricky - it doesn't ask you for an email address and displays the license on the resulting page. If I don't record the license key manually I will need to get in touch with you to try and recover it. It would be better to get it emailed or get some prompt to record it etc.
thamer 4y ago
This looks like a great start! There's one thing I couldn't find from this page, which I'm sure many developers would ask about: is there a Vim plugin, or Vim mode? And if not, are you planning to add one?
- Annili 4y ago
  Hi, thanks for the tip, I will add that to the FAQ. There is no VIM key binding at the moment. We are planning to add one; we know how many developers (including us) would want that.
  - cutler 4y ago
    To compete with VS Code and GoLand/CLion this is essential.
wanderr 4y ago
You might want to put supported languages more front and center and not buried on a hard-to-find faq page. Might also want to allow folks to sign up to be alerted when their favorite language is supported, which will also let you gather data about where there's the most interest.
- Annili 4y ago
  Thank you for the feedback. We made a change to the landing page, it should be more clear what languages are supported now. The first sentence now is "A new, capable, and fast code editor for Go and Rust, focused on both reading and writing code". A signup is missing, but you can follow us on Twitter @ZasEditor in the meanwhile.
  - Aeolun 4y ago
    This made it very clear to me that I shouldn’t get too enthusiastic yet ;) so I was spared the inevitable dissapointment. Thanks for that update!
  - glenjamin 4y ago
    Are you planning to add support for other languages in future, or are those two your main focus?
  - leaflets2 4y ago
    And it'd be nice to get notified if: It starts working on Linux, and it becomes open source or source-available. (Having to pay for it is fine :-) of course)
raphlinus 4y ago
For the rope, are you using xi-rope, ropey, or did you roll your own? Any thoughts on how you made that decision? Glad to see stuff like this, it brings back memories.
- Annili 4y ago
  Hi Raph. It amazing to see you here and thank you for all the xi crates. > Any thoughts on how you made that decision? The reason behind that is Zas Editor started out as a fork of Xi Editor! We're also using a fork of xi-rope, though we haven't made many changes to it. If you would like to discuss this more, DM me at twitter @ZasEditor
  - mwcampbell 4y ago
    What do you think of the "no such thing as native GUI" section of the xi retrospective [1], particularly the surprisingly bad performance? [1]: https://raphlinus.github.io/xi/2020/06/27/xi-retrospective.html https://raphlinus.github.io/xi/2020/06/27/xi-retrospective.h...
    - terhechte 4y ago
      From a purely macOS perspective, the major issue (apart from JSON being slow in Swift) was that there's no good native editor control for source code. There's NSTextView but it doesn't scale to large, syntax highlighted documents and lacks the required facilities that a source code editor needs. Hence, all proper third party text editors for macOS write their own source code control. I, personally, would contest that a native GUI is very much possible, but only for the chrome of the editor (e.g. searching, menus). This is also where native GUIS can shine. I'd wager that a proper source code control is such a domain specific requirement that each cross platform editor has to implement them whether they use native UI or not (maybe Qt has a fantastic one, I don't know)
adamnemecek 4y ago
How long did it take you to build it?
PaulDavisThe1st 4y ago
> since we wanted to create a native macOS experience. Can you say more about this choice?
- Annili 4y ago
  Do you mean why we chose to make it native instead of making it cross-platform?
  - PaulDavisThe1st 4y ago
    Yes.
obutora 4y ago
Super cool product!!
pjmlp 4y ago
If the plan is to make a native UI for each platform, good approach. If it is to stay macOS only, also a possible decision not everything needs to be cross platform, why bring Rust into the picture?
- hajhatten 4y ago
  Why would support for Rust be a problem here?
  - pjmlp 4y ago
    Two language development stack, with the complexity it entails, when the product is mac only.
    - mindwok 4y ago
      They mentioned elsewhere it started off as a fork of the Xi editor which is written in Rust. Xi separates the text-editor idea into backend and frontend, and Xi itself is primarily the Rust-based backend which concerns itself with making editing operations very fast, and then you can write a front-end client for whatever language/platform you want. In this case, they can use a fast Rust backend for multiple platforms (or just one) and then use Swift to make a nice, native front-end for MacOS and other native UI languages for other platforms if they wish.
      - pjmlp 4y ago
        Which is why I made the point on my comment about what the cross platform goals were, but the RIR folks are too quick to jump the gun in any kind of critic and only read half of it.
        irishsultan 4y ago
        But you're making the exact opposite mistake, it was already written in Rust, you're asking them to Rewrite in Swift.
fractallyte 4y ago
One typo: "dependancies" -> "dependencies"
- scrumper 4y ago
  There's quite a few actually. In the hero image, "Documentation Exlporer"; "variable" needs to be pluralized in the "Automatic renaming" section; conversely "documentations" should be singular in the "Dependancies" (sic) bit you pointed out - this is probably non-native English usage as that pattern appears throughout; "different matches" not "difference matches" under multi find; I'm seeing some stretched images in Safari under the Minimap section; and finally when you download it the .dmg is called "Zzas editor"! Saying all this to be helpful, not snarky or nitty. It's early days and some missing polish is to be expected on the marketing side. I absolutely love that I this exists and that there's another native choice alongside Sublime (which is decently ok for Rust), I'm super excited to see it grow and once I figure out how to upgrade my Mac Pro to OSX 11 then I'll be trying it out. Congrats to the developer and I wish the team long success.
newlisp 4y ago
How do you create a new file from Zas? seems like you can only open existing files
- coldtea 4y ago
  "Right click -> New file" in the sidebar
artspb 4y ago
It's great to see more Go editors out there. All the best! A little feedback: it's spelled GoLand, not Goland.
fmakunbound 4y ago
How do I extend it etc and what’s the extension language?
terhechte 4y ago
You mentioned elsewhere that VIM bindings are upcoming. I think this product will be an insta-buy for me once there're (reasonably proper) vim bindings. Is there a newsletter or something to know once this feature has landed? Also as a hint, before you try to re-implement 30 years of VIM bindings and end up with something where everybody misses something, there's a great C library that could be of help: https://github.com/onivim/libvim https://github.com/onivim/libvim
- Annili 4y ago
  Thanks for the hint. You can follow us on Twitter @ZasEditor for update announcements.
- albertzeyer 4y ago
  As I understand the documentation, libvim would manage and manipulate the buffer, i.e. basically "own" the text. However, Zas (and most other editors) already handle that, and probably would want to keep it that way. Does this still work together with libvim then, that libvim operates on a shared custom data structure, whatever the editor (Zas) provides to represent the buffer?
- ghosty141 4y ago
  the curse of vim.
  - dorfsmay 4y ago
    Once you've learn vim keybinds and combinations, nothing comes close for productivity.
    - singlow 4y ago
      Once you've learned vim why do you care if any other editor has vim bindings? What can you do with vim-mode ZasEditor that you couldn't do in vim?
      - folkrav 4y ago
johnsea 4y ago
Can't you add some sort of impressum to the website where you give some information about you?
- Annili 4y ago
  Added my info on the contact page
  - isodev 4y ago
    Could you also include a privacy policy and more information about telemetry or data collection?
    - Annili 4y ago
      Working on it.
  - johnsea 4y ago
    Thank you. Didn't try out yet (need vim) but it looks very nicely done, bravo!
- deleted 4y ago
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mro_name 4y ago
looks wonderful!
notimetorelax 4y ago
Hi, the image in “Simplicity of Command Line + Expressivity of Graphical UIs.” section is not cropped leading to horizontal scroll on mobile.
lewantmontreal 4y ago
Rust-analyzer destroys my Vscode experience in larger codebases (language features, formatting, version control becomes incredibly slow). I don’t know if there’s anything you can do about it but I hope it will be solved at some point.
amarant 4y ago
Hi! This looks really cool, great work! It seems to be Mac-only for now, is Linux support on your roadmap at all?
- cute_boi 4y ago
  As it is written in Swift, I highly doubt linux support is in their roadmap.
  - Annili 4y ago
    The more complex half is written in Rust. But you’re right, making it available for Linux isn’t something we plan to do soon
    - ghosty141 4y ago
      look at xi editor, it doesn't "really" work out even if it's not a technical one but a human one. It's just too much work to maintain 3-4 GUI applications which have to be in sync with a server api.
    - exikyut 4y ago
      Thought experiment: Rust half gets open-sourced and semi-stable-API-ified... and then out of several dozen community attempts to build a Linux UI, one of them eventually wins after 5 years :) (and a couple of stragglers build up small followings besides). Realistically speaking, Linux (and Rust) UI is sufficiently incoherent at this point (heh shakes head "year of the desktop" for 3 decades at this point huh) I honestly don't think anything except "here's the code" would work because of the huge amount of keeping-up (unfortunately :/) necessary at this point.
asimpletune 4y ago
I really like that it’s a one time price. Thanks for your work!
radiKal07 4y ago
Any changes it will support more languages? I would love to use this for Kotlin.
- jamil7 4y ago
  +1 For Kotlin, Swift would be nice too.
rob74 4y ago
Looks really nice, and I wish you a lot of success with it - if you offer most of the features of VSCode and GoLand in a faster and more elegant way, you may be able to carve out a niche for your product, even if it's not cross platform like all the other major editors/IDEs - but since I'm not a macOS user, I'm not in the market for it.
grncdr 4y ago
This looks really great, do you have any plans to support either arbitrary LSP servers, or integrate any more in a "blessed" way? I'd love to use this with Ruby & Solargraph for example.
JaggerJo 4y ago
Really cool project! Did you consider using ANTLR instead of tree-sitter parser? Don't know too much about tree-sitter but is seems to be a batteries included approach to building parsers?
throwawaybner3 4y ago
What editor were you using in the past? emacs, vim, vs?
leephillips 4y ago
Mentioning that it’s Mac only, and that it’s not free software, would help keep plenty of people from wasting their time.
- klibertp 4y ago
  Thank you - not sure about others, but I'd probably waste some time if not for your comment. I would like to say a bit more, but basically anything of value I could add to the discussion would start a flame war, so I'll have to abstain :(
- madduci 4y ago
  It's 2022 and still shipping [insert platform here]-only binaries?
  - bovermyer 4y ago
    If you want performance, then yes. Shoo! Go back to Electron!
    - dr-detroit 4y ago
    - smoldesu 4y ago
      It's still possible to ship cross-platform native software. People just pretend like it doesn't exist because it's too hard, and so I respond by pretending like their software doesn't exist.
      - bovermyer 4y ago
        You're making the assumption that everyone _wants_ to target as many platforms as possible, have the resources to do so, and are just too lazy to do so. In other words, you're assuming that people don't build for your platform because they're "bad." Why so cynical?
hasukimchi 4y ago
In the preferences, the code analysis icon is missing. And auto-updater tells me that I have version 1.0 and there is a new version 1.0.0 . And if I try to update, there is an update error. It is also a bit confusing if you buy it, because you go to download and can then decide to download for trial or purchase. If you purchase, you just get a screen with the key. But no download. It is not nessasary clear, that the trial is also the main download. And after purchasing, there is no invoice.
- bovermyer 4y ago
  When you say there's no invoice, do you mean there's no email at all with license key/etc. to confirm your purchase, or are you specifically referring to an invoice email?
  - blipmusic 4y ago
    There’s no email or anywhere to fill it in the first place during/after purchase, just a screen with the license code. An invoice or purchase confirmation mail would have been nice… I do hope there’s a way to retrieve the license for clumsy people like me. :)
btat1-2 4y ago
"Why should I use Zas Editor instead of free XXXX?". I don't know, I have no Mac.
from_endor 4y ago
Congratulations on the launch. There is a demand for a native, fast IDE. I gave Zas a quick spin in our fairly large Go codebase: Pros: - really fast - clean, fresh, minimal UI Cons: - Maybe I did something wrong, but one thing I do almost every day is rename something. Right-click a function name (or press F2), pick a better name, done. Zas seems to only rename the occurrences in the current file vs. the declaration. - The "Open file" suggestions are not great. If I search for a file `moo.go`, one of the first suggestions is `some/folder/moo/some/more/other.go` and then further down the list somewhere it shows `moo.go` - CMD + click on a symbol should jump to the declaration (or usages) EDIT: we use GoLand today. Functionality-wise it is great (also builtin TypeScript/JS support is a real plus) but it is slow and hungry.
prime31 4y ago
Any plans to support other languages, specifically Zig? It would be nice if it even just supported wiring in any LSP like Sublime Text LSP and Neovim LSP do.
efreak 4y ago
You may want to make it more obvious this is a native Mac app, not cross-platform. I ignored the window decorations and shortcuts (like I usually do), as those are commonly shown under the assumption of the developer's preferred OS; there's no definitive statement that this is a Mac-only app until the very bottom.

by Annili 4y ago

andrem 4y ago

The payment process is a little tricky - it doesn't ask you for an email address and displays the license on the resulting page. If I don't record the license key manually I will need to get in touch with you to try and recover it. It would be better to get it emailed or get some prompt to record it etc.

thamer 4y ago

This looks like a great start! There's one thing I couldn't find from this page, which I'm sure many developers would ask about: is there a Vim plugin, or Vim mode? And if not, are you planning to add one?

Annili 4y ago
Hi, thanks for the tip, I will add that to the FAQ. There is no VIM key binding at the moment. We are planning to add one; we know how many developers (including us) would want that.
- cutler 4y ago
  To compete with VS Code and GoLand/CLion this is essential.

wanderr 4y ago

You might want to put supported languages more front and center and not buried on a hard-to-find faq page. Might also want to allow folks to sign up to be alerted when their favorite language is supported, which will also let you gather data about where there's the most interest.

Annili 4y ago
Thank you for the feedback. We made a change to the landing page, it should be more clear what languages are supported now. The first sentence now is "A new, capable, and fast code editor for Go and Rust, focused on both reading and writing code". A signup is missing, but you can follow us on Twitter @ZasEditor in the meanwhile.
- Aeolun 4y ago
  This made it very clear to me that I shouldn’t get too enthusiastic yet ;) so I was spared the inevitable dissapointment. Thanks for that update!
- glenjamin 4y ago
  Are you planning to add support for other languages in future, or are those two your main focus?
- leaflets2 4y ago
  And it'd be nice to get notified if: It starts working on Linux, and it becomes open source or source-available. (Having to pay for it is fine :-) of course)

raphlinus 4y ago

For the rope, are you using xi-rope, ropey, or did you roll your own? Any thoughts on how you made that decision? Glad to see stuff like this, it brings back memories.

Annili 4y ago
Hi Raph. It amazing to see you here and thank you for all the xi crates. > Any thoughts on how you made that decision? The reason behind that is Zas Editor started out as a fork of Xi Editor! We're also using a fork of xi-rope, though we haven't made many changes to it. If you would like to discuss this more, DM me at twitter @ZasEditor
- mwcampbell 4y ago
  What do you think of the "no such thing as native GUI" section of the xi retrospective [1], particularly the surprisingly bad performance? [1]: https://raphlinus.github.io/xi/2020/06/27/xi-retrospective.html https://raphlinus.github.io/xi/2020/06/27/xi-retrospective.h...
  - terhechte 4y ago
    From a purely macOS perspective, the major issue (apart from JSON being slow in Swift) was that there's no good native editor control for source code. There's NSTextView but it doesn't scale to large, syntax highlighted documents and lacks the required facilities that a source code editor needs. Hence, all proper third party text editors for macOS write their own source code control. I, personally, would contest that a native GUI is very much possible, but only for the chrome of the editor (e.g. searching, menus). This is also where native GUIS can shine. I'd wager that a proper source code control is such a domain specific requirement that each cross platform editor has to implement them whether they use native UI or not (maybe Qt has a fantastic one, I don't know)

adamnemecek 4y ago

How long did it take you to build it?

PaulDavisThe1st 4y ago

> since we wanted to create a native macOS experience. Can you say more about this choice?

Annili 4y ago
Do you mean why we chose to make it native instead of making it cross-platform?
- PaulDavisThe1st 4y ago
  Yes.

obutora 4y ago

Super cool product!!

pjmlp 4y ago

If the plan is to make a native UI for each platform, good approach. If it is to stay macOS only, also a possible decision not everything needs to be cross platform, why bring Rust into the picture?

hajhatten 4y ago
Why would support for Rust be a problem here?
- pjmlp 4y ago
  Two language development stack, with the complexity it entails, when the product is mac only.
  - mindwok 4y ago
    They mentioned elsewhere it started off as a fork of the Xi editor which is written in Rust. Xi separates the text-editor idea into backend and frontend, and Xi itself is primarily the Rust-based backend which concerns itself with making editing operations very fast, and then you can write a front-end client for whatever language/platform you want. In this case, they can use a fast Rust backend for multiple platforms (or just one) and then use Swift to make a nice, native front-end for MacOS and other native UI languages for other platforms if they wish.
    - pjmlp 4y ago
      Which is why I made the point on my comment about what the cross platform goals were, but the RIR folks are too quick to jump the gun in any kind of critic and only read half of it.
      - irishsultan 4y ago
        But you're making the exact opposite mistake, it was already written in Rust, you're asking them to Rewrite in Swift.

fractallyte 4y ago

One typo: "dependancies" -> "dependencies"

scrumper 4y ago
There's quite a few actually. In the hero image, "Documentation Exlporer"; "variable" needs to be pluralized in the "Automatic renaming" section; conversely "documentations" should be singular in the "Dependancies" (sic) bit you pointed out - this is probably non-native English usage as that pattern appears throughout; "different matches" not "difference matches" under multi find; I'm seeing some stretched images in Safari under the Minimap section; and finally when you download it the .dmg is called "Zzas editor"! Saying all this to be helpful, not snarky or nitty. It's early days and some missing polish is to be expected on the marketing side. I absolutely love that I this exists and that there's another native choice alongside Sublime (which is decently ok for Rust), I'm super excited to see it grow and once I figure out how to upgrade my Mac Pro to OSX 11 then I'll be trying it out. Congrats to the developer and I wish the team long success.

newlisp 4y ago

How do you create a new file from Zas? seems like you can only open existing files

coldtea 4y ago
"Right click -> New file" in the sidebar

artspb 4y ago

It's great to see more Go editors out there. All the best! A little feedback: it's spelled GoLand, not Goland.

fmakunbound 4y ago

How do I extend it etc and what’s the extension language?

terhechte 4y ago

You mentioned elsewhere that VIM bindings are upcoming. I think this product will be an insta-buy for me once there're (reasonably proper) vim bindings. Is there a newsletter or something to know once this feature has landed? Also as a hint, before you try to re-implement 30 years of VIM bindings and end up with something where everybody misses something, there's a great C library that could be of help: https://github.com/onivim/libvim https://github.com/onivim/libvim

Annili 4y ago
Thanks for the hint. You can follow us on Twitter @ZasEditor for update announcements.
albertzeyer 4y ago
As I understand the documentation, libvim would manage and manipulate the buffer, i.e. basically "own" the text. However, Zas (and most other editors) already handle that, and probably would want to keep it that way. Does this still work together with libvim then, that libvim operates on a shared custom data structure, whatever the editor (Zas) provides to represent the buffer?
ghosty141 4y ago
the curse of vim.
- dorfsmay 4y ago
  Once you've learn vim keybinds and combinations, nothing comes close for productivity.
  - singlow 4y ago
    Once you've learned vim why do you care if any other editor has vim bindings? What can you do with vim-mode ZasEditor that you couldn't do in vim?
    - folkrav 4y ago

johnsea 4y ago

Can't you add some sort of impressum to the website where you give some information about you?

Annili 4y ago
Added my info on the contact page
- isodev 4y ago
  Could you also include a privacy policy and more information about telemetry or data collection?
  - Annili 4y ago
    Working on it.
- johnsea 4y ago
  Thank you. Didn't try out yet (need vim) but it looks very nicely done, bravo!
deleted 4y ago
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mro_name 4y ago

looks wonderful!

notimetorelax 4y ago

Hi, the image in “Simplicity of Command Line + Expressivity of Graphical UIs.” section is not cropped leading to horizontal scroll on mobile.

lewantmontreal 4y ago

Rust-analyzer destroys my Vscode experience in larger codebases (language features, formatting, version control becomes incredibly slow). I don’t know if there’s anything you can do about it but I hope it will be solved at some point.

amarant 4y ago

Hi! This looks really cool, great work! It seems to be Mac-only for now, is Linux support on your roadmap at all?

cute_boi 4y ago
As it is written in Swift, I highly doubt linux support is in their roadmap.
- Annili 4y ago
  The more complex half is written in Rust. But you’re right, making it available for Linux isn’t something we plan to do soon
  - ghosty141 4y ago
    look at xi editor, it doesn't "really" work out even if it's not a technical one but a human one. It's just too much work to maintain 3-4 GUI applications which have to be in sync with a server api.
  - exikyut 4y ago
    Thought experiment: Rust half gets open-sourced and semi-stable-API-ified... and then out of several dozen community attempts to build a Linux UI, one of them eventually wins after 5 years :) (and a couple of stragglers build up small followings besides). Realistically speaking, Linux (and Rust) UI is sufficiently incoherent at this point (heh shakes head "year of the desktop" for 3 decades at this point huh) I honestly don't think anything except "here's the code" would work because of the huge amount of keeping-up (unfortunately :/) necessary at this point.

asimpletune 4y ago

I really like that it’s a one time price. Thanks for your work!

radiKal07 4y ago

Any changes it will support more languages? I would love to use this for Kotlin.

jamil7 4y ago
+1 For Kotlin, Swift would be nice too.

rob74 4y ago

Looks really nice, and I wish you a lot of success with it - if you offer most of the features of VSCode and GoLand in a faster and more elegant way, you may be able to carve out a niche for your product, even if it's not cross platform like all the other major editors/IDEs - but since I'm not a macOS user, I'm not in the market for it.

grncdr 4y ago

This looks really great, do you have any plans to support either arbitrary LSP servers, or integrate any more in a "blessed" way? I'd love to use this with Ruby & Solargraph for example.

JaggerJo 4y ago

Really cool project! Did you consider using ANTLR instead of tree-sitter parser? Don't know too much about tree-sitter but is seems to be a batteries included approach to building parsers?

throwawaybner3 4y ago

What editor were you using in the past? emacs, vim, vs?

leephillips 4y ago

Mentioning that it’s Mac only, and that it’s not free software, would help keep plenty of people from wasting their time.

klibertp 4y ago
Thank you - not sure about others, but I'd probably waste some time if not for your comment. I would like to say a bit more, but basically anything of value I could add to the discussion would start a flame war, so I'll have to abstain :(
madduci 4y ago
It's 2022 and still shipping [insert platform here]-only binaries?
- bovermyer 4y ago
  If you want performance, then yes. Shoo! Go back to Electron!
  - dr-detroit 4y ago
  - smoldesu 4y ago
    It's still possible to ship cross-platform native software. People just pretend like it doesn't exist because it's too hard, and so I respond by pretending like their software doesn't exist.
    - bovermyer 4y ago
      You're making the assumption that everyone _wants_ to target as many platforms as possible, have the resources to do so, and are just too lazy to do so. In other words, you're assuming that people don't build for your platform because they're "bad." Why so cynical?

hasukimchi 4y ago

In the preferences, the code analysis icon is missing. And auto-updater tells me that I have version 1.0 and there is a new version 1.0.0 . And if I try to update, there is an update error. It is also a bit confusing if you buy it, because you go to download and can then decide to download for trial or purchase. If you purchase, you just get a screen with the key. But no download. It is not nessasary clear, that the trial is also the main download. And after purchasing, there is no invoice.

bovermyer 4y ago
When you say there's no invoice, do you mean there's no email at all with license key/etc. to confirm your purchase, or are you specifically referring to an invoice email?
- blipmusic 4y ago
  There’s no email or anywhere to fill it in the first place during/after purchase, just a screen with the license code. An invoice or purchase confirmation mail would have been nice… I do hope there’s a way to retrieve the license for clumsy people like me. :)

btat1-2 4y ago

"Why should I use Zas Editor instead of free XXXX?". I don't know, I have no Mac.

from_endor 4y ago

Congratulations on the launch. There is a demand for a native, fast IDE. I gave Zas a quick spin in our fairly large Go codebase: Pros: - really fast - clean, fresh, minimal UI Cons: - Maybe I did something wrong, but one thing I do almost every day is rename something. Right-click a function name (or press F2), pick a better name, done. Zas seems to only rename the occurrences in the current file vs. the declaration. - The "Open file" suggestions are not great. If I search for a file `moo.go`, one of the first suggestions is `some/folder/moo/some/more/other.go` and then further down the list somewhere it shows `moo.go` - CMD + click on a symbol should jump to the declaration (or usages) EDIT: we use GoLand today. Functionality-wise it is great (also builtin TypeScript/JS support is a real plus) but it is slow and hungry.

prime31 4y ago

Any plans to support other languages, specifically Zig? It would be nice if it even just supported wiring in any LSP like Sublime Text LSP and Neovim LSP do.

efreak 4y ago

You may want to make it more obvious this is a native Mac app, not cross-platform. I ignored the window decorations and shortcuts (like I usually do), as those are commonly shown under the assumption of the developer's preferred OS; there's no definitive statement that this is a Mac-only app until the very bottom.