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Zee: A modern text editor for the terminal written in Rust

143 points by siraben 5y ago

amne 5y ago
anyone have a link to hackernews .. but in rust? thanks
__d 5y ago
so ... Zee Emulates Emacs?
- drekipus 5y ago
  In rust!
- oefrha 5y ago
  Supporting Emacs keybindings is like 1% of “emulating Emacs”.
  - __d 5y ago
    Sure, but that makes the name Zeopoe, which isn't quite so snappy.
yewenjie 5y ago
Can I please keep all my Emacs workflow and packages but have something faster? Please?
- db48x 5y ago
  If your Emacs is slow then there is probably something wrong with your config that can be fixed. When do you notice it being slow?
- ashton314 5y ago
  Are you on Emacs 28? Native-comp is enabled by default and it's Just Worked™ for me. Or are you on at least Emacs 27? Emacs 27 added native JSON parsing; stuff like lsp-mode works a lot better now. (Personally running Emacs 29 built from source on an M1 Pro; everything is instant! Even on my old dumpy i5 machine, everything except startup was pretty snappy, with the exception of startup which took ~4 seconds.) If it's startup you're concerned about, try the esup[1] package to figure out what's taking so long. [1]: https://github.com/jschaf/esup https://github.com/jschaf/esup
  - oefrha 5y ago
    Just use a persistent Emacs server and forget about startup profiling.
  - yewenjie 5y ago
    I am on latest Emacs master with native-comp enabled on a i7 32GB machine. While generally it is fast, it is not fast enough for me for things like editing with LSP enabled. After like an hour of LSP mode on, it becomes jarring and I need to restart it.
    - worthless-trash 5y ago
      Give the feedback to your language server processor, probably not an emacs bug.. might be.. but i think you need to measure, you might be blaming your editor when its not.
    - patrick451 5y ago
      I use to have this problem as well. It turns out that I had set (setq lsp-print-io t) while debugging a configuration problem. That setting was basically filling up a buffer with _enormous_ amounts of text. I guess that appending frequently to that massive buffer slowed things to a halt. After disabling this, LSP inside emacs has been flawless.
- accelbred 5y ago
  Have you tried using the gcmh package? I'd gotten emacs 28 snappy and without performance issues on my desktop, but laptop was still laggy; gcmh with auto set fixed it for me.
tekacs 5y ago
As a British person, I love that two of the editors written in Rust are now called Zed [1] (how we pronounce 'z') and Zee (how Americans pronounce 'z') respectively. [1]: https://zed.dev/ https://zed.dev/
- benatkin 5y ago
  Related to zeta https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/zed#Etymology https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/zed#Etymology https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeta https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeta
- deleted 5y ago
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- girvo 5y ago
  And the neat part is that the Zed authors created Tree-Sitter, which Zee uses!
- krashidov 5y ago
  hah I thought that Zed had actually released and this was that
- ehecatl42 5y ago
  As a Kiwi, I am eagerly awaiting an editor written in Rust called Zid.
  - Findecanor 5y ago
    But you would still spell it "Zea" ...
- Iwan-Zotow 5y ago
  - Whose motorcycle is this? - It's a chopper, baby. - Whose chopper is this? - It's Zed's. - Who's Zed? - Zed's dead, baby. Zed's dead.
drekipus 5y ago
Looks nice. I do like tui editors, I like new editors, I like the "promise" of speed / rtc that comes with rust. I like new and interesting ways of doing things This looks to be a hobby project, and it looks very professional and presentable, so good work! I like it! But if you wanted to entice me to download and try it, I'd argue you have to give me something new. I would prefer more reasoning about why things are the way they are (keybinds are done because X). I'd prefer something that can be hacked upon (vim, Emacs, kak, etc all have scripts). I'd prefer something different (the entire window has physic simulation and typing too fast causes a massive loading force on the indents). Etc. But this is your project, do what you want! well done!
- girvo 5y ago
  One thing I'd love to see, is a TUI editor that focuses on providing hooks for developers to build deeper integration with various frameworks into the editor and it's autocomplete. This is something I've wanted back when I was doing professional PHP development, when life was still in black and white. I still reckon it would be useful today. I started to build exactly that myself, in Nim, but got distracted building the editor itself and eventually moved on to other personal projects. Maybe I should revisit it. An example, based on the current HN home page, would be htmx integration in HTML editing, that is aware of the rest of your project and how htmx works to give excellent, powerful autocomplete within your bindings. Maybe even have it be able to be aware of the backends route set!
  - kmarc 5y ago
    > One thing I'd love to see, is a TUI editor that focuses on providing hooks for developers to build deeper integration with various frameworks into the editor and it's autocomplete. But... Don't they already do that? I am a daily vim user and there is a million plugins that were created using those "hooks" you talk about. I guess that's the case with emacs too. Just two days ago I jumped into a huge bazel project and needed a good way to navigate through 100s of files that are connected through @funny//labels/across/directories/and.files. By only reading vim's :help, I was able to write that 10lines of code which hooks into the existing "go-to-file" or "find-where-this-is-defined" functionality. (In fact, after "implementing" this feature, I was wondering how I'd do this as a user (not as a plug in author) in any other editors.)
CyberRabbi 5y ago
What makes this a “modern” editor? When does it cease to be a modern editor?
- wpm 5y ago
  One of these days I’m going to write a modern HN headline generator, in Rust!
  - a9h74j 5y ago
    Of the Rust, by the Rust, for the Rust.
  - timeon 5y ago
    Comments like these reminds me how huge number of vegan recipes went from word 'vegan' to 'plant based' because of omnipresent harassment. And I already saw Rust project here that instead of mentioning 'Rust' in title went for 'oxidized'.
    - patrick451 5y ago
      I find the "Some New Non-Library Whatever Project, in Rust" annoying because it usually seems like being written in rust is the main selling point. It just comes of as more garish advertising from the Rust Evangelism Strike Force. I don't care if my editor is written rust or c or haskell or whatever. Does it offer advantages to my workflow that my current editor does not? I often reach for ripgrep because it's fast and has convenient defaults. That it happens to be written in rust is a footnote.
  - amelius 5y ago
    Rust in peace.
  - grinchygrinch 5y ago
    It seems like lately every new(ish) piece of software is labeled as modern, fast and simple.
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gigatexal 5y ago
Very cool looking editor. Even this vim diehard will give it a shot. I’m always looking for anything new or an improvement that could make life better. I don’t love the emacs bindings but I’m open minded. Again kudos to the author.
johnisgood 5y ago
I wanted to give this a try but... Compiling zee-grammar v0.2.0 (/tmp/zee/grammar) Compiling crossclip v0.7.0 Compiling phf_codegen v0.8.0 Compiling futures v0.3.17 Compiling palette v0.5.0 Compiling zi-term v0.2.0 The following warnings were emitted during compilation: warning: cc: error: languages/tree-sitter-css/src/parser.c: No such file or dire ctory warning: cc: fatal error: no input files warning: compilation terminated. warning: cc: error: languages/tree-sitter-css/src/scanner.c: No such file or directory warning: cc: fatal error: no input files warning: compilation terminated. error: failed to run custom build command for `zee-grammar v0.2.0 (/tmp/zee/grammar)` Caused by: process didn't exit successfully: `/tmp/zee/target/release/build/zee-grammar-38a42fe479d4b0dd/build-script-build` (exit status: 1) --- stdout cargo:rustc-link-lib=static=tree-sitter-css TARGET = Some("x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu") OPT_LEVEL = Some("3") HOST = Some("x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu") CC_x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu = None CC_x86_64_unknown_linux_gnu = None HOST_CC = None CC = None CFLAGS_x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu = None CFLAGS_x86_64_unknown_linux_gnu = None HOST_CFLAGS = None CFLAGS = None CRATE_CC_NO_DEFAULTS = None DEBUG = Some("false") CARGO_CFG_TARGET_FEATURE = Some("fxsr,lzcnt,pclmulqdq,popcnt,rdrand,sse,sse2,sse3,sse4.1,sse4.2,ssse3") running: "cc" "-O3" "-ffunction-sections" "-fdata-sections" "-fPIC" "-m64" "-I" "languages/tree-sitter-css/src" "-Wall" "-Wextra" "-w" "-o" "/tmp/zee/target/release/build/zee-grammar-76ca683c42d5d7dd/out/languages/tree-sitter-css/src/parser.o" "-c" "languages/tree-sitter-css/src/parser.c" cargo:warning=cc: error: languages/tree-sitter-css/src/parser.c: No such file or directory cargo:warning=cc: fatal error: no input files cargo:warning=compilation terminated. exit status: 1 running: "cc" "-O3" "-ffunction-sections" "-fdata-sections" "-fPIC" "-m64" "-I" "languages/tree-sitter-css/src" "-Wall" "-Wextra" "-w" "-o" "/tmp/zee/target/release/build/zee-grammar-76ca683c42d5d7dd/out/languages/tree-sitter-css/src/scanner.o" "-c" "languages/tree-sitter-css/src/scanner.c" Not interested enough... :/ Took long enough to compile with its ~260 dependencies. Each Rust project I want to cargo build, I end up fetching & compiling >200 dependencies (the same ones, not sure if different versions though), and then by the end of it all it fails. I am going to rm -rf it, I need the space anyways.
0xhh 5y ago
Looks cool but Zee is a registered trademark and it operates TV channels, OTT platform in India. May be check this again because you shouldn't get into any troubles in the future. :)
- wmf 5y ago
  Every word is a trademark somewhere.
- eesmith 5y ago
  Most trademarks only apply to a given, well, trade. These are specified when filing for a trademark. For example, the Unix line of washing solutions (http://www.washing-solution.de/en/washing-machines/unix/ http://www.washing-solution.de/en/washing-machines/unix/ ) and the Unix line of curtains (https://www.kvadrat.dk/en/kinnasand/products/curtains/6704-unix# https://www.kvadrat.dk/en/kinnasand/products/curtains/6704-u...! ) and the Unix line of liquid chromatography products (https://www.sepax-tech.com/Unix.php https://www.sepax-tech.com/Unix.php ) do not infringe on the Unix trademark related operating systems. According to TESS, the US trademark search system, Unix in the category "IC 009. US 021 023 026 036 038. G & S: COMPUTER PROGRAMS, * NAMELY, TEST SUITES USED TO DETERMINE COMPLIANCE WITH CERTAIN SPECIFICATIONS AND STANDARDS *. FIRST USE: 19721214. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 19721214" There is no trademark conflict to use that term for a far different product or service area. FWIW, TESS says the following are three of the many existing trademarks for "Zee" in the US: "IC 009. US 021 023 026 036 038. G & S: Camera hardware systems for IP (Internet protocol) video surveillance; IP (Internet protocol) cameras. FIRST USE: 20130809. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 20130809" "IC 041. US 100 101 107. G & S: Educational services, professional educational orientation services, organization of expositions with educational or cultural purposes" "IC 009. US 021 023 026 036 038. G & S: Portable chargers, namely, batteries with multiple ports for charging electronics; Portable power station, namely, batteries with multiple ports for charging electronic devices; Portable battery power station, namely, rechargeable batteries with multiple ports for charging electronics; Battery charge devices; Batteries, electric" You'll notice they are in different areas of trade, hence no trademark conflict. Maybe check out trademark law again. :)
- throwaway684936 5y ago
ilrwbwrkhv 5y ago
I love text editors. Can someone create one which can also work with the vs code extension API? I would pay for something like that.
- scns 5y ago
  You can sponsor CoC. https://github.com/neoclide/coc.nvim https://github.com/neoclide/coc.nvim
systemz 5y ago
Please add binary to releases on github. Probably most of the users won't be Rust devs with cargo already available in path.
FullyFunctional 5y ago
Ha, writing a minimalist editor is one of my "hello world" tasks and I've been meaning to redo it in Rust as so many things would be much easier than in C. The major thing I would want differently, breaking tradition from emacs is not waste the bottom two lines for modeline and a usually-empty prompt line and instead only show it on demand. Emacs can sort of do this, but in my experience, it doesn't work very well. ADD: I know some HNers feel there's too much Rust here, but let me just add how I love that I can do `cargo install zee` on macOS, FreeBSD, and Linux (AMD64, Arm64, RISC-V) and it just works. Cargo is my favorite package manager (where available).
davidkunz 5y ago
There's also Helix, a Vim/Kakoune-inspired text editor written in Rust: https://github.com/helix-editor/helix https://github.com/helix-editor/helix
- sp33der89 5y ago
  Big fan of Helix and Kakoune-esque keybindings! I like that they have tree-sitter and LSP as first class citizens, both extremely nice. I hope they figure out the plugin system, but honestly, if they'd just add something like Telescope(an absolutely amazing neovim plugin), I'd be more than happy enough.
  - davidkunz 5y ago
    I think there is something like Telescope, e.g. when you hit <space>-f to find files.
SuperSandro2000 5y ago
Those new editors gross like weed. Every month there is a new shiny one which promises to be the new vim.
codethief 5y ago
The README sounded very good, until > The following keybindings are available: Sigh. Could software please stop being so opinionated when it comes to keybindings? Let me configure my own keybindings please. Emacs bindings are terrible for people suffering from RSI and the like.
- jhoechtl 5y ago
  So the next time I ssh into a machine, fire up vim and `dd` to delete a line I find myself cooking coffee because the admin thought that would be the right thing to?
  - dataangel 5y ago
    Your keybindings and the admin's keybindings don't have to be the same. Also yes as someone with RSI I will bother syncing those bindings to every machine I work on because if I don't I will experience physical pain.
- vaylian 5y ago
  Should all software come with no assigned key bindings? I think it is good to have a list of existing key bindings, so that you can start using the software without guessing which keys you need to hit. The don't-know-how-to-quit-vi-jokes are very old by now. And there's probably some way you can configure the key bindings to your liking.
  - codethief 5y ago
    > And there's probably some way you can configure the key bindings to your liking. AFAICT there is no such way, hence my original comment. > Should all software come with no assigned key bindings? Personally, I find it very annoying having to re-bind all the keys to my liking / to what I'm used to whenever I start using a new piece of software. But to answer your question: Probably not. Most people seem to be happy to go with whatever are the default keybindings, so I guess it works for them.
- stjohnswarts 5y ago
brad-dev 5y ago
mr90210 5y ago
Rust is the new Javascript... (I am joking)
- 0des 5y ago
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bjoli 5y ago
I see a bunch of editors using ropes. Are they in any way superior to RRB trees? My gut tells me no, but ai might be missing something.
- cschmidt 5y ago
  Pragmatically, there is a nice rust crate that implements a rope [1]. I think that has a lot to do with it. And it is a nice data structure for editors. [1] https://docs.rs/ropey/latest/ropey/ https://docs.rs/ropey/latest/ropey/
  - bjoli 5y ago
    Of course. The rrb tree implementation in im.rs handles inserts in a way that might lead to the same problems of ropes, but without doing any rebalancing. That would make it unsuitable for text editor usage.
- aledue 5y ago
  Are there any accessible explanations of RRB trees? I tried implementing them a while ago but all I could find was a something-hundred pages thesis and a paper with some Scala code that I didn't fully grasp ;)
  - bjoli 5y ago
    The simple explanation is "take the bit partitioned immutable vectors and relax the leftwise dense requirement" and then sprinkle some magic implementation dust in between that and the finished implementation. On a more serious note: the only complex piece of code to write is the merge and split operations, but since the structure of the tree is given it isn't theoretically hard. It is just a pain in the ass. There are two high quality implementations. One for c++ (immer) and the one in scala. Bagwell did a talk about it on YouTube as well.
dataangel 5y ago
plugin support? pretty much required for accessibility reasons for me to try an editor
sylware 5y ago
I wonder where is the x86_64/elf bootstrap rust optimizing compiler written in rust (user space "profile" for now).

143 points by siraben 5y ago

amne 5y ago

anyone have a link to hackernews .. but in rust? thanks

__d 5y ago

so ... Zee Emulates Emacs?

drekipus 5y ago
In rust!
oefrha 5y ago
Supporting Emacs keybindings is like 1% of “emulating Emacs”.
- __d 5y ago
  Sure, but that makes the name Zeopoe, which isn't quite so snappy.

yewenjie 5y ago

Can I please keep all my Emacs workflow and packages but have something faster? Please?

db48x 5y ago
If your Emacs is slow then there is probably something wrong with your config that can be fixed. When do you notice it being slow?
ashton314 5y ago
Are you on Emacs 28? Native-comp is enabled by default and it's Just Worked™ for me. Or are you on at least Emacs 27? Emacs 27 added native JSON parsing; stuff like lsp-mode works a lot better now. (Personally running Emacs 29 built from source on an M1 Pro; everything is instant! Even on my old dumpy i5 machine, everything except startup was pretty snappy, with the exception of startup which took ~4 seconds.) If it's startup you're concerned about, try the esup[1] package to figure out what's taking so long. [1]: https://github.com/jschaf/esup https://github.com/jschaf/esup
- oefrha 5y ago
  Just use a persistent Emacs server and forget about startup profiling.
- yewenjie 5y ago
  I am on latest Emacs master with native-comp enabled on a i7 32GB machine. While generally it is fast, it is not fast enough for me for things like editing with LSP enabled. After like an hour of LSP mode on, it becomes jarring and I need to restart it.
  - worthless-trash 5y ago
    Give the feedback to your language server processor, probably not an emacs bug.. might be.. but i think you need to measure, you might be blaming your editor when its not.
  - patrick451 5y ago
    I use to have this problem as well. It turns out that I had set (setq lsp-print-io t) while debugging a configuration problem. That setting was basically filling up a buffer with _enormous_ amounts of text. I guess that appending frequently to that massive buffer slowed things to a halt. After disabling this, LSP inside emacs has been flawless.
accelbred 5y ago
Have you tried using the gcmh package? I'd gotten emacs 28 snappy and without performance issues on my desktop, but laptop was still laggy; gcmh with auto set fixed it for me.

tekacs 5y ago

As a British person, I love that two of the editors written in Rust are now called Zed [1] (how we pronounce 'z') and Zee (how Americans pronounce 'z') respectively. [1]: https://zed.dev/ https://zed.dev/

benatkin 5y ago
Related to zeta https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/zed#Etymology https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/zed#Etymology https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeta https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeta
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girvo 5y ago
And the neat part is that the Zed authors created Tree-Sitter, which Zee uses!
krashidov 5y ago
hah I thought that Zed had actually released and this was that
ehecatl42 5y ago
As a Kiwi, I am eagerly awaiting an editor written in Rust called Zid.
- Findecanor 5y ago
  But you would still spell it "Zea" ...
Iwan-Zotow 5y ago
- Whose motorcycle is this? - It's a chopper, baby. - Whose chopper is this? - It's Zed's. - Who's Zed? - Zed's dead, baby. Zed's dead.

drekipus 5y ago

Looks nice. I do like tui editors, I like new editors, I like the "promise" of speed / rtc that comes with rust. I like new and interesting ways of doing things This looks to be a hobby project, and it looks very professional and presentable, so good work! I like it! But if you wanted to entice me to download and try it, I'd argue you have to give me something new. I would prefer more reasoning about why things are the way they are (keybinds are done because X). I'd prefer something that can be hacked upon (vim, Emacs, kak, etc all have scripts). I'd prefer something different (the entire window has physic simulation and typing too fast causes a massive loading force on the indents). Etc. But this is your project, do what you want! well done!

girvo 5y ago
One thing I'd love to see, is a TUI editor that focuses on providing hooks for developers to build deeper integration with various frameworks into the editor and it's autocomplete. This is something I've wanted back when I was doing professional PHP development, when life was still in black and white. I still reckon it would be useful today. I started to build exactly that myself, in Nim, but got distracted building the editor itself and eventually moved on to other personal projects. Maybe I should revisit it. An example, based on the current HN home page, would be htmx integration in HTML editing, that is aware of the rest of your project and how htmx works to give excellent, powerful autocomplete within your bindings. Maybe even have it be able to be aware of the backends route set!
- kmarc 5y ago
  > One thing I'd love to see, is a TUI editor that focuses on providing hooks for developers to build deeper integration with various frameworks into the editor and it's autocomplete. But... Don't they already do that? I am a daily vim user and there is a million plugins that were created using those "hooks" you talk about. I guess that's the case with emacs too. Just two days ago I jumped into a huge bazel project and needed a good way to navigate through 100s of files that are connected through @funny//labels/across/directories/and.files. By only reading vim's :help, I was able to write that 10lines of code which hooks into the existing "go-to-file" or "find-where-this-is-defined" functionality. (In fact, after "implementing" this feature, I was wondering how I'd do this as a user (not as a plug in author) in any other editors.)

CyberRabbi 5y ago

What makes this a “modern” editor? When does it cease to be a modern editor?

wpm 5y ago
One of these days I’m going to write a modern HN headline generator, in Rust!
- a9h74j 5y ago
  Of the Rust, by the Rust, for the Rust.
- timeon 5y ago
  Comments like these reminds me how huge number of vegan recipes went from word 'vegan' to 'plant based' because of omnipresent harassment. And I already saw Rust project here that instead of mentioning 'Rust' in title went for 'oxidized'.
  - patrick451 5y ago
    I find the "Some New Non-Library Whatever Project, in Rust" annoying because it usually seems like being written in rust is the main selling point. It just comes of as more garish advertising from the Rust Evangelism Strike Force. I don't care if my editor is written rust or c or haskell or whatever. Does it offer advantages to my workflow that my current editor does not? I often reach for ripgrep because it's fast and has convenient defaults. That it happens to be written in rust is a footnote.
- amelius 5y ago
  Rust in peace.
- grinchygrinch 5y ago
  It seems like lately every new(ish) piece of software is labeled as modern, fast and simple.
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gigatexal 5y ago

Very cool looking editor. Even this vim diehard will give it a shot. I’m always looking for anything new or an improvement that could make life better. I don’t love the emacs bindings but I’m open minded. Again kudos to the author.

johnisgood 5y ago

I wanted to give this a try but... Compiling zee-grammar v0.2.0 (/tmp/zee/grammar) Compiling crossclip v0.7.0 Compiling phf_codegen v0.8.0 Compiling futures v0.3.17 Compiling palette v0.5.0 Compiling zi-term v0.2.0 The following warnings were emitted during compilation: warning: cc: error: languages/tree-sitter-css/src/parser.c: No such file or dire ctory warning: cc: fatal error: no input files warning: compilation terminated. warning: cc: error: languages/tree-sitter-css/src/scanner.c: No such file or directory warning: cc: fatal error: no input files warning: compilation terminated. error: failed to run custom build command for `zee-grammar v0.2.0 (/tmp/zee/grammar)` Caused by: process didn't exit successfully: `/tmp/zee/target/release/build/zee-grammar-38a42fe479d4b0dd/build-script-build` (exit status: 1) --- stdout cargo:rustc-link-lib=static=tree-sitter-css TARGET = Some("x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu") OPT_LEVEL = Some("3") HOST = Some("x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu") CC_x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu = None CC_x86_64_unknown_linux_gnu = None HOST_CC = None CC = None CFLAGS_x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu = None CFLAGS_x86_64_unknown_linux_gnu = None HOST_CFLAGS = None CFLAGS = None CRATE_CC_NO_DEFAULTS = None DEBUG = Some("false") CARGO_CFG_TARGET_FEATURE = Some("fxsr,lzcnt,pclmulqdq,popcnt,rdrand,sse,sse2,sse3,sse4.1,sse4.2,ssse3") running: "cc" "-O3" "-ffunction-sections" "-fdata-sections" "-fPIC" "-m64" "-I" "languages/tree-sitter-css/src" "-Wall" "-Wextra" "-w" "-o" "/tmp/zee/target/release/build/zee-grammar-76ca683c42d5d7dd/out/languages/tree-sitter-css/src/parser.o" "-c" "languages/tree-sitter-css/src/parser.c" cargo:warning=cc: error: languages/tree-sitter-css/src/parser.c: No such file or directory cargo:warning=cc: fatal error: no input files cargo:warning=compilation terminated. exit status: 1 running: "cc" "-O3" "-ffunction-sections" "-fdata-sections" "-fPIC" "-m64" "-I" "languages/tree-sitter-css/src" "-Wall" "-Wextra" "-w" "-o" "/tmp/zee/target/release/build/zee-grammar-76ca683c42d5d7dd/out/languages/tree-sitter-css/src/scanner.o" "-c" "languages/tree-sitter-css/src/scanner.c" Not interested enough... :/ Took long enough to compile with its ~260 dependencies. Each Rust project I want to cargo build, I end up fetching & compiling >200 dependencies (the same ones, not sure if different versions though), and then by the end of it all it fails. I am going to rm -rf it, I need the space anyways.

0xhh 5y ago

Looks cool but Zee is a registered trademark and it operates TV channels, OTT platform in India. May be check this again because you shouldn't get into any troubles in the future. :)

wmf 5y ago
Every word is a trademark somewhere.
eesmith 5y ago
Most trademarks only apply to a given, well, trade. These are specified when filing for a trademark. For example, the Unix line of washing solutions (http://www.washing-solution.de/en/washing-machines/unix/ http://www.washing-solution.de/en/washing-machines/unix/ ) and the Unix line of curtains (https://www.kvadrat.dk/en/kinnasand/products/curtains/6704-unix# https://www.kvadrat.dk/en/kinnasand/products/curtains/6704-u...! ) and the Unix line of liquid chromatography products (https://www.sepax-tech.com/Unix.php https://www.sepax-tech.com/Unix.php ) do not infringe on the Unix trademark related operating systems. According to TESS, the US trademark search system, Unix in the category "IC 009. US 021 023 026 036 038. G & S: COMPUTER PROGRAMS, * NAMELY, TEST SUITES USED TO DETERMINE COMPLIANCE WITH CERTAIN SPECIFICATIONS AND STANDARDS *. FIRST USE: 19721214. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 19721214" There is no trademark conflict to use that term for a far different product or service area. FWIW, TESS says the following are three of the many existing trademarks for "Zee" in the US: "IC 009. US 021 023 026 036 038. G & S: Camera hardware systems for IP (Internet protocol) video surveillance; IP (Internet protocol) cameras. FIRST USE: 20130809. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 20130809" "IC 041. US 100 101 107. G & S: Educational services, professional educational orientation services, organization of expositions with educational or cultural purposes" "IC 009. US 021 023 026 036 038. G & S: Portable chargers, namely, batteries with multiple ports for charging electronics; Portable power station, namely, batteries with multiple ports for charging electronic devices; Portable battery power station, namely, rechargeable batteries with multiple ports for charging electronics; Battery charge devices; Batteries, electric" You'll notice they are in different areas of trade, hence no trademark conflict. Maybe check out trademark law again. :)
throwaway684936 5y ago

ilrwbwrkhv 5y ago

I love text editors. Can someone create one which can also work with the vs code extension API? I would pay for something like that.

scns 5y ago
You can sponsor CoC. https://github.com/neoclide/coc.nvim https://github.com/neoclide/coc.nvim

systemz 5y ago

Please add binary to releases on github. Probably most of the users won't be Rust devs with cargo already available in path.

FullyFunctional 5y ago

Ha, writing a minimalist editor is one of my "hello world" tasks and I've been meaning to redo it in Rust as so many things would be much easier than in C. The major thing I would want differently, breaking tradition from emacs is not waste the bottom two lines for modeline and a usually-empty prompt line and instead only show it on demand. Emacs can sort of do this, but in my experience, it doesn't work very well. ADD: I know some HNers feel there's too much Rust here, but let me just add how I love that I can do `cargo install zee` on macOS, FreeBSD, and Linux (AMD64, Arm64, RISC-V) and it just works. Cargo is my favorite package manager (where available).

davidkunz 5y ago

There's also Helix, a Vim/Kakoune-inspired text editor written in Rust: https://github.com/helix-editor/helix https://github.com/helix-editor/helix

sp33der89 5y ago
Big fan of Helix and Kakoune-esque keybindings! I like that they have tree-sitter and LSP as first class citizens, both extremely nice. I hope they figure out the plugin system, but honestly, if they'd just add something like Telescope(an absolutely amazing neovim plugin), I'd be more than happy enough.
- davidkunz 5y ago
  I think there is something like Telescope, e.g. when you hit <space>-f to find files.

SuperSandro2000 5y ago

Those new editors gross like weed. Every month there is a new shiny one which promises to be the new vim.

codethief 5y ago

The README sounded very good, until > The following keybindings are available: Sigh. Could software please stop being so opinionated when it comes to keybindings? Let me configure my own keybindings please. Emacs bindings are terrible for people suffering from RSI and the like.

jhoechtl 5y ago
So the next time I ssh into a machine, fire up vim and `dd` to delete a line I find myself cooking coffee because the admin thought that would be the right thing to?
- dataangel 5y ago
  Your keybindings and the admin's keybindings don't have to be the same. Also yes as someone with RSI I will bother syncing those bindings to every machine I work on because if I don't I will experience physical pain.
vaylian 5y ago
Should all software come with no assigned key bindings? I think it is good to have a list of existing key bindings, so that you can start using the software without guessing which keys you need to hit. The don't-know-how-to-quit-vi-jokes are very old by now. And there's probably some way you can configure the key bindings to your liking.
- codethief 5y ago
  > And there's probably some way you can configure the key bindings to your liking. AFAICT there is no such way, hence my original comment. > Should all software come with no assigned key bindings? Personally, I find it very annoying having to re-bind all the keys to my liking / to what I'm used to whenever I start using a new piece of software. But to answer your question: Probably not. Most people seem to be happy to go with whatever are the default keybindings, so I guess it works for them.
stjohnswarts 5y ago

brad-dev 5y ago

mr90210 5y ago

Rust is the new Javascript... (I am joking)

0des 5y ago

fortyseven 5y ago

bjoli 5y ago

I see a bunch of editors using ropes. Are they in any way superior to RRB trees? My gut tells me no, but ai might be missing something.

cschmidt 5y ago
Pragmatically, there is a nice rust crate that implements a rope [1]. I think that has a lot to do with it. And it is a nice data structure for editors. [1] https://docs.rs/ropey/latest/ropey/ https://docs.rs/ropey/latest/ropey/
- bjoli 5y ago
  Of course. The rrb tree implementation in im.rs handles inserts in a way that might lead to the same problems of ropes, but without doing any rebalancing. That would make it unsuitable for text editor usage.
aledue 5y ago
Are there any accessible explanations of RRB trees? I tried implementing them a while ago but all I could find was a something-hundred pages thesis and a paper with some Scala code that I didn't fully grasp ;)
- bjoli 5y ago
  The simple explanation is "take the bit partitioned immutable vectors and relax the leftwise dense requirement" and then sprinkle some magic implementation dust in between that and the finished implementation. On a more serious note: the only complex piece of code to write is the merge and split operations, but since the structure of the tree is given it isn't theoretically hard. It is just a pain in the ass. There are two high quality implementations. One for c++ (immer) and the one in scala. Bagwell did a talk about it on YouTube as well.

dataangel 5y ago

plugin support? pretty much required for accessibility reasons for me to try an editor

sylware 5y ago

I wonder where is the x86_64/elf bootstrap rust optimizing compiler written in rust (user space "profile" for now).