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Because they are unhygienic, they trigger allergies and fears, they carry a certain risk to attack humans, and above all, they are very unreliable.
by summm 5y ago
Because they are unhygienic, they trigger allergies and fears, they carry a certain risk to attack humans, and above all, they are very unreliable.
- briandear 5y agoAre dogs unreliable? My highly trained Malinois is more reliable than most people.
- summm 5y agoUnreliable for use as medical sensors, at least that's what the study says. About your general sentiment: I am sorry that you feel you don't have reliable humans in your life.
- awillen 5y agoHave you seen a highly trained Malinois? Even if you're surrounded by highly reliable humans, they're probably not as reliable as the dog.
- chupchap 5y agoIt doesn't matter how well trained a dog is, a lot of people are scared of dogs.
- Sophistifunk 5y agoA lot of people are scared of needles, too. And yet we still inject people all the time.
- trentgreene 5y agoBecause there are medications that "must" be administered intravenously or in the muscle. There's no test that can only be performed via canine.
- mulmen 5y agoDevil’s advocate: “yet”.
- Bost 5y ago> There's no test that can only be performed via canine. Because we haven't developed any.
- franga2000 5y agoWell yes, but clearly some tests dont't need to be performed with a needle anymore - we can use a dog
- awillen 5y agoThat's true, but it's not relevant here... we're talking about reliability.
- fastball 5y agoDepends on how you define "reliable". I'm sure the Malinois can be relied upon to do the things it has been trained to do, but I can rely on humans to do things they have not been trained to do.
- fulafel 5y agoThere are multiple linked studies, the first BMJ infection article at least seems to be positive in its conclusions about it. ("CONCLUSION: A trained dog was able to detect C difficile with high estimated sensitivity and specificity, both in stool samples and in hospital patients infected with C difficile.")
- givemeethekeys 5y agoHaha. They're reliable as dogs, but perhaps less reliable as machines ;).
- cookiengineer 5y agoCounter argument: I've never seen any trained chihuahua. It seems that most if not all owners who want to own a chihuahua or another small "lap dog" are incapable of training them. The sheer amount of untrained dogs is just way too high to use a trained dog as an argument. I'd guess less than 10% actually go to dog school/training.
- dustymcp 5y agoThis i tell my kids to not go near any dog they dont know, too many bad dog owners..
- Bost 5y ago> The sheer amount of untrained dogs is just way too high to use a trained dog as an argument. The sheer amount of stupid people is just way too high to use a smart person as an argument.
- elliekelly 5y agoHave you never seen a 90s Taco Bell commercial?
- conradfr 5y agoNo animal is 100% reliable (in the general sense, not the medical one like in the article). Which is why a lot of the cute videos with dogs and children (especially babies) should actually not be encouraged, there's many accidents every year.
- Bost 5y agoAnd now tell me please which doctor or test IS 100% reliable?
- cfn 5y agoHighly trained is the operational word here, untrained Malinois are a nightmare. I agree with the above for most dogs, trained they are fine but most dogs are not trained and not very easy to control in unfamiliar surroundings.
- Bost 5y agoTrained people are fine, but most people are not trained and not very easy to control in unfamiliar surroundings.
- jjtheblunt 5y agoReading "Guns, Germs, and Steel" (Pulitzer prize about 20 years ago: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guns%2C_Germs%2C_and_Steel https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guns%2C_Germs%2C_and_Steel ) made me read your sentence and think "every clause this person wrote is well known to be plainly false".
- SpikeDad 5y agoGuess you don't have any allergies. Almost any dog or cat or furred animal will trigger a serious allergic reaction for me. If I continue to be exposed I'll have a major asthma attack. You gonna be responsible for my medical bills? Nope I wouldn't think you'd care much considering your post. Sorry but any tiny benefit you might gain from having a dog is not worth the danger to my health. I love peanuts but I won't eat any in a plane or other confined space because people's health is a higher priority than my taste buds.
- jjtheblunt 5y agoI've got allergies galore, but the animal dander faded (no idea why) while pollen is still going strong seasonally.
- racl101 5y agoSo true. I love dogs. Used to have a dog. Not no more. Got allergies something fierce. A dog in a waiting room would fuck me up big time.
- drewzero1 5y agoExactly! My first thought was "why are there any dogs at the doctor's office at all?" I've always loved dogs but I'll probably never have one again, because people in my family are allergic. Their right to breathe outranks my desire to keep an animal in the house/office/etc. The dogs in the article at least appear to be isolated from patients, but I hope similar consideration is given to lab workers (no pun intended) who may be allergic.
- tzs 5y agoMerely eating peanuts in the same general area as someone with an allergy is extremely unlikely to endanger them from airborne exposure [1]. Just wipe down your tray table and seat after you are done to avoid leaving contaminated surfaces and that should take care of even the risk of causing even a mild reaction to someone with an allergy. [1] https://www.aaaai.org/allergist-resources/ask-the-expert/answers/old-ask-the-experts/peanut-air-travel https://www.aaaai.org/allergist-resources/ask-the-expert/ans...
- frankzander 5y agoHm interesting. You seem to have an aversion against dogs and many presumptions. Unreliable ... if it would be the case the police or rescue organizations wouldn't use them because life depends on their reliability. attack humans ... if you didn't know almost nothing about dogs and have made bad experiences with them in the past then yes you probably would think that. It's not the case. Attacks are in many cases explainable and very often the human causes the attack by unknowingly behaving like prey or posing a thread to the dog. fears ... right ... like you have you you mean? :) I had a lot of fears in the past because as a child I was bitten by a dog. Now I have my own and almost no fear. allergies and unhygienic ... well a dog for medical purposes don't have to be in a operating room to do their job. Many people kiss other people or shake hands ... how unhygienic is that? ;-)
- throw82473751 5y agoDon't think he was talking personally, but rather list arguments that few people will bring up... I love all animals, but still, the "unhygenic" argument is a thing (humans can sanitize and wash hands e.g.), that is why in a lot of food shopping places or restaurants it is forbidden to bring dogs inside (even if just more theoretical than practical). And lastly, the allergies is also somethinng you cannot persons just talk out of, every "office dog" was always impossible because at least one guy having allergies...
- dna_polymerase 5y agoSure dogs are used in professional environments but you can only use them for short periods of time. For example drug sniffing dogs can be used only for half an hour before they need to rest. They aren't machines and need attention.
- Nullabillity 5y ago> You seem to have an aversion against dogs and many presumptions. And you seem to have Dog Owner Reality Displacement Syndrome. > Unreliable ... if it would be the case the police or rescue organizations wouldn't use them because life depends on their reliability. Police doesn't give two shits about reliability, these are the same people who use polygraphs regularly. They are both useless instruments which can be interpreted however the officer desires, while letting them launder that opinion through an "unbiased" third party. > attack humans ... if you didn't know almost nothing about dogs and have made bad experiences with them in the past then yes you probably would think that. It's not the case. Attacks are in many cases explainable and very often the human causes the attack by unknowingly behaving like prey or posing a thread to the dog. This is just another version of "If she didn't want to be assaulted then she shouldn't have dressed like a slut!". > fears ... right ... like you have you you mean? :) I had a lot of fears in the past because as a child I was bitten by a dog. Now I have my own and almost no fear. And so the abused becomes the abuser, perpetuating the cycle… > Many people kiss other people or shake hands ... how unhygienic is that? ;-) People wash their hands, and don't typically tend to run and kiss any random stranger they meet (unlike dogs!). There's a huge difference between kissing the same person 10 times, vs kissing 10 people once.
- waster 5y agoThis: > Dogs can work through many samples quickly, at a low cost, with minimal or no interaction with patients. For example, healthcare workers can collect breath, sweat, urine, or blood samples for dogs to process, rather than having the dog examine patients directly. This allows the dogs to work with minimal environmental distraction, and bypasses the necessity to work directly with patients who may be uncomfortable around dogs.