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Message box: DO you want to watch this 2 min ad in order to browse your filesystem? [Yes] [No]? Who am I kidding, why would they even give us the option. Micro

by qiskit 5y ago

Message box: DO you want to watch this 2 min ad in order to browse your filesystem? [Yes] [No]? Who am I kidding, why would they even give us the option. Microsoft said they were looking to put ads in their software and I guess they are following through on it. Instead of the blue screen of death, we'll get the blue screen of ads.

pomian 5y ago
I think you are correct. Bit you just used the wrong command. I think better use case: you will watch this 2 min ad in order to browse your filesystem, ok?
- cbfrench 5y ago
  If you wait too long to respond, Clippy pops up: “It looks like you’re having trouble cooperating as a willing participant in enforced consumerism. Would you like some help?” > Yes. > Yes, please.
- wlesieutre 5y ago
  The search box is a favorite place for Microsoft to stuff things that you don't want while pretending it's trying to present you with useful information. Wouldn't you like to have some autoplaying video ads in there?
- qiskit 5y ago
  Even better, just play the ad and after the ad finishes, give the user a quiz on the ad to make sure he was paying attention. If you score 80% on the quiz, then you can browse the filesystem. Otherwise, they have to watch the ad again. Dark arts/dark patterns. I think microsoft just emailed me a job offer. Decisions, decisions.
  - sonicanatidae 5y ago
    There is already "work" being done to detect the user's eye focus. If the user looks away from the ad, the ad pauses, until the user refocuses on their garbage. Granted, for now, it's 20 mins of ads for free tickets, and it makes sense. We also know humans don't understand the word, "enough" when it comes to profits. https://futurism.com/moviepass-eye-tracking-ads https://futurism.com/moviepass-eye-tracking-ads
  - thegtproject 5y ago
    I feel like a captcha needs to be in there somewhere as well.
- krono 5y ago
  > Watch now Maybe later
  - mirntyfirty 5y ago
    The maybe later option will be in tiny print in the corner with a background that doesn’t contrast much and will be followed by “are you sure?”
    - IYasha 5y ago
      and you'll have to solve CAPTCHA, obligatory.
      - beefield 5y ago
        Just got an startup idea from hell. Why nobody does CAPTCHAs that are based on ads?
        mirntyfirty 5y ago
        Shouldn’t say that out loud, instant unicorn
- cm2187 5y ago
  That's while you are waiting the 2min it takes to search a file using Windows explorer (for a directory tree that it takes me milliseconds to traverse programmatically).
raxxorrax 5y ago
This is basically intentionally sabotaging their own ecosystems. Try to find an expert on Microsoft technology and you will find an army of consultant grifters instead of technical knowledge. The problem seems to be getting worse. I think without the momentum of their office suite, corporate integration and PC gaming, Windows would probably quickly fade out.
- SteveNuts 5y ago
  Even in their 'modern' solutions such as Intune, the licensing models are so arcane and difficult to grow that you basically need an expert to figure it out. Microsoft really leans on their VAR network and I agree, it feels so inefficient
  - deleted 5y ago
    [deleted]
  - vladvasiliu 5y ago
    > the licensing models are so arcane and difficult to grow that you basically need an expert to figure it out This. Just had a call with MS today on a different matter, and the guy basically had no idea how licensing worked. All he could say was something like "we don't actively enforce those, so if you don't do anything ridiculous, we won't come banging on your door. But you should schedule a call with our licensing specialist who'll be able to help you out, just to be sure".
- boringg 5y ago
  As soon as someone gets a better product than MS excel for the finance community they are in tough waters for relevancy. Gaming is the other one you pointed out.
  - 1_player 5y ago
    Is anyone seriously working on an Excel competitor, and not just clone? Serious question.
moltke 5y ago
Eventually a Windows update will include a "portal to Hell" feature and people will keep using it saying something like "the demons are really annoying but I need Office and don't want to learn a new UI."
- boringg 5y ago
  I mean already they immediately lock you out of editing anything in MS suite if you let your sub lapse - or in the of my elderly parents they forgot each others passwords and get confused.
- 1_player 5y ago
  "In 2003 I had a problem setting up Bluetooth in Ubuntu, so I'd rather stick with Windows, thanks."
  - IYasha 5y ago
    To be fair, I had a royal pain transferring file over Bluetooth from Android phone to Ubuntu laptop a month ago. And MTP was almost as painful too.
    - idrios 5y ago
      Did you have success with that eventually? I tried doing that a few years ago and gave up entirely, convinced myself that it was an impossible task and that the thought that I could was a misunderstanding of how Bluetooth works.
      - IYasha 5y ago
        I ended up with device listed as "paired" while the process have clearly failed (with a message :) ). And while incoming files were detected, request for save never followed. I've transferred file using MTP over USB, but in that case it interrupted on every action (like changing directory) requiring to re-enter "file transfer mode" on the phone.

by qiskit 5y ago

pomian 5y ago

I think you are correct. Bit you just used the wrong command. I think better use case: you will watch this 2 min ad in order to browse your filesystem, ok?

cbfrench 5y ago
If you wait too long to respond, Clippy pops up: “It looks like you’re having trouble cooperating as a willing participant in enforced consumerism. Would you like some help?” > Yes. > Yes, please.
wlesieutre 5y ago
The search box is a favorite place for Microsoft to stuff things that you don't want while pretending it's trying to present you with useful information. Wouldn't you like to have some autoplaying video ads in there?
qiskit 5y ago
Even better, just play the ad and after the ad finishes, give the user a quiz on the ad to make sure he was paying attention. If you score 80% on the quiz, then you can browse the filesystem. Otherwise, they have to watch the ad again. Dark arts/dark patterns. I think microsoft just emailed me a job offer. Decisions, decisions.
- sonicanatidae 5y ago
  There is already "work" being done to detect the user's eye focus. If the user looks away from the ad, the ad pauses, until the user refocuses on their garbage. Granted, for now, it's 20 mins of ads for free tickets, and it makes sense. We also know humans don't understand the word, "enough" when it comes to profits. https://futurism.com/moviepass-eye-tracking-ads https://futurism.com/moviepass-eye-tracking-ads
- thegtproject 5y ago
  I feel like a captcha needs to be in there somewhere as well.
krono 5y ago
> Watch now Maybe later
- mirntyfirty 5y ago
  The maybe later option will be in tiny print in the corner with a background that doesn’t contrast much and will be followed by “are you sure?”
  - IYasha 5y ago
    and you'll have to solve CAPTCHA, obligatory.
    - beefield 5y ago
      Just got an startup idea from hell. Why nobody does CAPTCHAs that are based on ads?
      - mirntyfirty 5y ago
        Shouldn’t say that out loud, instant unicorn
cm2187 5y ago
That's while you are waiting the 2min it takes to search a file using Windows explorer (for a directory tree that it takes me milliseconds to traverse programmatically).

raxxorrax 5y ago

This is basically intentionally sabotaging their own ecosystems. Try to find an expert on Microsoft technology and you will find an army of consultant grifters instead of technical knowledge. The problem seems to be getting worse. I think without the momentum of their office suite, corporate integration and PC gaming, Windows would probably quickly fade out.

SteveNuts 5y ago
Even in their 'modern' solutions such as Intune, the licensing models are so arcane and difficult to grow that you basically need an expert to figure it out. Microsoft really leans on their VAR network and I agree, it feels so inefficient
- deleted 5y ago
  [deleted]
- vladvasiliu 5y ago
  > the licensing models are so arcane and difficult to grow that you basically need an expert to figure it out This. Just had a call with MS today on a different matter, and the guy basically had no idea how licensing worked. All he could say was something like "we don't actively enforce those, so if you don't do anything ridiculous, we won't come banging on your door. But you should schedule a call with our licensing specialist who'll be able to help you out, just to be sure".
boringg 5y ago
As soon as someone gets a better product than MS excel for the finance community they are in tough waters for relevancy. Gaming is the other one you pointed out.
- 1_player 5y ago
  Is anyone seriously working on an Excel competitor, and not just clone? Serious question.

moltke 5y ago

Eventually a Windows update will include a "portal to Hell" feature and people will keep using it saying something like "the demons are really annoying but I need Office and don't want to learn a new UI."

boringg 5y ago
I mean already they immediately lock you out of editing anything in MS suite if you let your sub lapse - or in the of my elderly parents they forgot each others passwords and get confused.
1_player 5y ago
"In 2003 I had a problem setting up Bluetooth in Ubuntu, so I'd rather stick with Windows, thanks."
- IYasha 5y ago
  To be fair, I had a royal pain transferring file over Bluetooth from Android phone to Ubuntu laptop a month ago. And MTP was almost as painful too.
  - idrios 5y ago
    Did you have success with that eventually? I tried doing that a few years ago and gave up entirely, convinced myself that it was an impossible task and that the thought that I could was a misunderstanding of how Bluetooth works.
    - IYasha 5y ago
      I ended up with device listed as "paired" while the process have clearly failed (with a message :) ). And while incoming files were detected, request for save never followed. I've transferred file using MTP over USB, but in that case it interrupted on every action (like changing directory) requiring to re-enter "file transfer mode" on the phone.