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I have to share the road with people in the FSD beta program, and I never signed an NDA for the FSD beta program, so I think I should be able to hear people rec

I have to share the road with people in the FSD beta program, and I never signed an NDA for the FSD beta program, so I think I should be able to hear people recount their driving experiences on public roads with me.

ajross 5y ago
There is no NDA required for FSD beta access. Certainly I never signed one. What would you like to know?
- benatkin 5y ago
  There used to be one. https://insideevs.com/news/539939/tesla-drops-ndas-latest-fsdbeta/ https://insideevs.com/news/539939/tesla-drops-ndas-latest-fs... I don't have any questions at the moment - I'm still absorbing information from AI Addict: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByKE6RZjYes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByKE6RZjYes He probably signed an NDA for it (by joining it before 10.2), and I'm grateful that he isn't following the likely-unenforceable NDA.
- joezydeco 5y ago
  As a pedestrian, will this beta release attempt to kill me? That's been on my mind.
  - ashwagary 5y ago
    - Dylan16807 5y ago
      What a stupid comparison. Oh my god he's spreading internet somewhere nato wants it. Definitely willing to kill, yep yep.
      - ashwagary 5y ago
        Once you get in bed with the military it's a slippery slope. Isn't google using their computer vision tech to help better target 'enemies' on the battle field? During a bear market or temporary downturn induced squeeze, these sort of relationships and contracts may not just seem more attractive but financially necessary.
        Dylan16807 5y ago
        Supplying consumer internet service, also to the military, isn't what I would call "getting in bed with the military".
        ashwagary 5y ago
        >also to the military. No need to put it that way as if you don't understand the priorities. We'll check back in a few years and see if I'm wrong about the trajectory. Btw, I've been right about most tech companies, 2013-2015 leaks made that clear.
        Dylan16807 5y ago
        The priority of getting publicity? But priority doesn't really matter when they're selling the same thing they sell to everyone else, and it's a small sliver of their business. Making a military-spec computer vision system is very different from providing internet to many people including a military.
        ashwagary 5y ago
        >The priority of getting publicity? >But priority doesn't really matter Priority does matter and it should be common sense that connecting an army to the internet is a higher priority than connecting civilians, especially during a conflict/war. Let's be serious, anyone reading this thread will understand the point that you seem to be trying to avoid.
    - sofixa 5y ago
      That's a jump. Ukraine's president asks for Starlink because you know, his country is under a brutal invasion and many services are getting cut in the active warzones, and Musk for once does a decent thing by accepting, and your interpretation is that Musk is helping NATO? The alliance that doesn't participate in the conflict besides cry and send help to the invaded country.
      - ashwagary 5y ago
        >Elon already proved he would use Starlink to assist Nato. It was a bit of a joke but there is some truth to it. Do you think only civilians use the internet connection he provided? The troops that Nato trained for the past 8 or so years rely on uninterrupted internet connections as well. Teslas are a perfect mobile surveillance tool with cameras, GPS, remote control capabilities, etc... It's not a stretch to expect they could easily be used as ground versions of aerial drones with the benefit of plausable deniability (FSD Beta did it).

ajross 5y ago

There is no NDA required for FSD beta access. Certainly I never signed one. What would you like to know?

benatkin 5y ago
There used to be one. https://insideevs.com/news/539939/tesla-drops-ndas-latest-fsdbeta/ https://insideevs.com/news/539939/tesla-drops-ndas-latest-fs... I don't have any questions at the moment - I'm still absorbing information from AI Addict: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByKE6RZjYes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByKE6RZjYes He probably signed an NDA for it (by joining it before 10.2), and I'm grateful that he isn't following the likely-unenforceable NDA.
joezydeco 5y ago
As a pedestrian, will this beta release attempt to kill me? That's been on my mind.
- ashwagary 5y ago
  - Dylan16807 5y ago
    What a stupid comparison. Oh my god he's spreading internet somewhere nato wants it. Definitely willing to kill, yep yep.
    - ashwagary 5y ago
      Once you get in bed with the military it's a slippery slope. Isn't google using their computer vision tech to help better target 'enemies' on the battle field? During a bear market or temporary downturn induced squeeze, these sort of relationships and contracts may not just seem more attractive but financially necessary.
      - Dylan16807 5y ago
        Supplying consumer internet service, also to the military, isn't what I would call "getting in bed with the military".
        ashwagary 5y ago
        >also to the military. No need to put it that way as if you don't understand the priorities. We'll check back in a few years and see if I'm wrong about the trajectory. Btw, I've been right about most tech companies, 2013-2015 leaks made that clear.
        Dylan16807 5y ago
        The priority of getting publicity? But priority doesn't really matter when they're selling the same thing they sell to everyone else, and it's a small sliver of their business. Making a military-spec computer vision system is very different from providing internet to many people including a military.
        ashwagary 5y ago
        >The priority of getting publicity? >But priority doesn't really matter Priority does matter and it should be common sense that connecting an army to the internet is a higher priority than connecting civilians, especially during a conflict/war. Let's be serious, anyone reading this thread will understand the point that you seem to be trying to avoid.
  - sofixa 5y ago
    That's a jump. Ukraine's president asks for Starlink because you know, his country is under a brutal invasion and many services are getting cut in the active warzones, and Musk for once does a decent thing by accepting, and your interpretation is that Musk is helping NATO? The alliance that doesn't participate in the conflict besides cry and send help to the invaded country.
    - ashwagary 5y ago
      >Elon already proved he would use Starlink to assist Nato. It was a bit of a joke but there is some truth to it. Do you think only civilians use the internet connection he provided? The troops that Nato trained for the past 8 or so years rely on uninterrupted internet connections as well. Teslas are a perfect mobile surveillance tool with cameras, GPS, remote control capabilities, etc... It's not a stretch to expect they could easily be used as ground versions of aerial drones with the benefit of plausable deniability (FSD Beta did it).