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Go visit the homepage of this newspaper. It's crazy, there's no clear reference to war or attacks. This article on Ikea is just an attempt to tell the desperati

Go visit the homepage of this newspaper. It's crazy, there's no clear reference to war or attacks. This article on Ikea is just an attempt to tell the desperation without breaking the censorship law.

ranieuwe 5y ago
They were told to censor or be sued. They removed any postings of war after that. Novaya Gazeta is a newspaper critical of current Russian affairs.
- dillondoyle 5y ago
  Sued? Sounds like far worse.
  - deleted 5y ago
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  - deepsun 5y ago
    15 years imprisonment to anyone related.
- bitwise101 5y ago
  Yes, I understood immediately the position of the newspaper browsing a bit the site. There are a lot of comments here talking about Ikea, Russian alternatives and business opportunities. I think they are somehow missing the point
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- squarefoot 5y ago
  They know they risk a lot more than being sued. Novaya Gazeta is also the newspaper the journalist, and Putin's strong critic, Anna Politkovskaya wrote for before being murdered on Oct 7 2006. Note that Oct 7 is the birthday of Vladimir Putin. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anna_Politkovskaya https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anna_Politkovskaya
nuccy 5y ago
I was also surprised by this. I find it absolutely crazy. The reason is that just few days ago the parliament of Russia introduced a law on "fakes about Russian army" with 15 years in prison penalty. What is "fake" is not defined so anyone for any statement about the war could be put in prison. Ah yes, people are also forbidden to call this a war, an agression or an invasion. You may say that there are other outlets of information, but no, all critical to Russian government newspapers, radio stations, tv channels were recently closed. Facebook, BBC, DW, YouTube blocked. The best analogy to what is going on there would be: a frog slowly boiling in a pan.
- nuccy 5y ago
  People from the west may say: well yes, our media is biased also. And that is true, but direction of this bias is different for each media outlet, so by watching something else you can find discrepancies and inconsistencies. While in Russia all tv, radio, newspapers are government controlled, so they put the same fake and propaganda which due to lack of anything else (all blocked) yields brain washing on a whole country scale.
  - irrational 5y ago
    Yes, I’ll just watch something else. https://youtu.be/_fHfgU8oMSo https://youtu.be/_fHfgU8oMSo
    - clusterfish 5y ago
      You don't get it. In the US you can watch something else, despite the oversized influence of media conglomerates.
      - londons_explore 5y ago
        Not so much... Russian media is getting blocked in some places in the west too. RT was blocked from YouTube and TV in the UK for example.
NicoJuicy 5y ago
They do a great share here: https://novayagazeta.ru/articles/2022/03/01/o-rabote-v-usloviiakh-voennogo-vremeni https://novayagazeta.ru/articles/2022/03/01/o-rabote-v-uslov... Where they explain what "fake news", according to the governement, is.
londons_explore 5y ago
They're clearly still doing what they can... There is a big long story about a mother who has had to have a funeral for her soldier son who has died but the authorities won't give the body back or any details about how he died.
Klaster_1 5y ago
As one of Novaya backers, I voted for it to continue operations, even under the censorship. The Novaya team and their readers are bright people who can write and read between the lines, a working independent media of any form, not blocked by roskomnadzor, is more valuable than none. The alternative was to shut down and wait until the situation resolves. I admire their resolve.
- b3kart 5y ago
  I am conflicted about this. On one hand, people’s livelihoods are at stake, and one can argue some news is better than no news. On the other hand, by continuing reporting on events unrelated to war, are we not helping Putin’s regime to push the “it’s all fine, don’t worry about the war” agenda?
  - Klaster_1 5y ago
    The point is, Novaya will absolutely find a way to report about the rapidly declining situation in a manner barely acceptable by dumb censors. It's chief editor didn't get his peace Noble for nothing.
    - b3kart 5y ago
      Not so sure on “absolutely”. Echo Moscow was riding this sharp line through thick and thin for 30 years, and even they had to close up shop yesterday.
    - aix1 5y ago
      I am really sorry to say this but as of last midnight Novaya Gazeta have ceased their newsroom operation. https://novayagazeta.ru/articles/2022/03/01/o-rabote-v-usloviiakh-voennogo-vremeni https://novayagazeta.ru/articles/2022/03/01/o-rabote-v-uslov...
  - greendesk 5y ago
    You go to jail for any reporting related to the war in Russia. No exceptions. One way to check is go to to a news aggregator, like news.Google.com, choose Russian region for Russian related news. Use a translate service to get a view what information is shared. I have done it out of a habit - and the level of control is extreme that no useful information is shared.
twiss 5y ago
There were before, for example: https://web.archive.org/web/20220225133800/https://novayagazeta.ru/ https://web.archive.org/web/20220225133800/https://novayagaz...

Go visit the homepage of this newspaper. It's crazy, there's no clear reference to war or attacks. This article on Ikea is just an attempt to tell the desperation without breaking the censorship law.

ranieuwe 5y ago

They were told to censor or be sued. They removed any postings of war after that. Novaya Gazeta is a newspaper critical of current Russian affairs.

dillondoyle 5y ago
Sued? Sounds like far worse.
- deleted 5y ago
  [deleted]
- deepsun 5y ago
  15 years imprisonment to anyone related.
bitwise101 5y ago
Yes, I understood immediately the position of the newspaper browsing a bit the site. There are a lot of comments here talking about Ikea, Russian alternatives and business opportunities. I think they are somehow missing the point
- deleted 5y ago
  [deleted]
squarefoot 5y ago
They know they risk a lot more than being sued. Novaya Gazeta is also the newspaper the journalist, and Putin's strong critic, Anna Politkovskaya wrote for before being murdered on Oct 7 2006. Note that Oct 7 is the birthday of Vladimir Putin. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anna_Politkovskaya https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anna_Politkovskaya

nuccy 5y ago

I was also surprised by this. I find it absolutely crazy. The reason is that just few days ago the parliament of Russia introduced a law on "fakes about Russian army" with 15 years in prison penalty. What is "fake" is not defined so anyone for any statement about the war could be put in prison. Ah yes, people are also forbidden to call this a war, an agression or an invasion. You may say that there are other outlets of information, but no, all critical to Russian government newspapers, radio stations, tv channels were recently closed. Facebook, BBC, DW, YouTube blocked. The best analogy to what is going on there would be: a frog slowly boiling in a pan.

nuccy 5y ago
People from the west may say: well yes, our media is biased also. And that is true, but direction of this bias is different for each media outlet, so by watching something else you can find discrepancies and inconsistencies. While in Russia all tv, radio, newspapers are government controlled, so they put the same fake and propaganda which due to lack of anything else (all blocked) yields brain washing on a whole country scale.
- irrational 5y ago
  Yes, I’ll just watch something else. https://youtu.be/_fHfgU8oMSo https://youtu.be/_fHfgU8oMSo
  - clusterfish 5y ago
    You don't get it. In the US you can watch something else, despite the oversized influence of media conglomerates.
    - londons_explore 5y ago
      Not so much... Russian media is getting blocked in some places in the west too. RT was blocked from YouTube and TV in the UK for example.

NicoJuicy 5y ago

They do a great share here: https://novayagazeta.ru/articles/2022/03/01/o-rabote-v-usloviiakh-voennogo-vremeni https://novayagazeta.ru/articles/2022/03/01/o-rabote-v-uslov... Where they explain what "fake news", according to the governement, is.

londons_explore 5y ago

They're clearly still doing what they can... There is a big long story about a mother who has had to have a funeral for her soldier son who has died but the authorities won't give the body back or any details about how he died.

Klaster_1 5y ago

As one of Novaya backers, I voted for it to continue operations, even under the censorship. The Novaya team and their readers are bright people who can write and read between the lines, a working independent media of any form, not blocked by roskomnadzor, is more valuable than none. The alternative was to shut down and wait until the situation resolves. I admire their resolve.

b3kart 5y ago
I am conflicted about this. On one hand, people’s livelihoods are at stake, and one can argue some news is better than no news. On the other hand, by continuing reporting on events unrelated to war, are we not helping Putin’s regime to push the “it’s all fine, don’t worry about the war” agenda?
- Klaster_1 5y ago
  The point is, Novaya will absolutely find a way to report about the rapidly declining situation in a manner barely acceptable by dumb censors. It's chief editor didn't get his peace Noble for nothing.
  - b3kart 5y ago
    Not so sure on “absolutely”. Echo Moscow was riding this sharp line through thick and thin for 30 years, and even they had to close up shop yesterday.
  - aix1 5y ago
    I am really sorry to say this but as of last midnight Novaya Gazeta have ceased their newsroom operation. https://novayagazeta.ru/articles/2022/03/01/o-rabote-v-usloviiakh-voennogo-vremeni https://novayagazeta.ru/articles/2022/03/01/o-rabote-v-uslov...
- greendesk 5y ago
  You go to jail for any reporting related to the war in Russia. No exceptions. One way to check is go to to a news aggregator, like news.Google.com, choose Russian region for Russian related news. Use a translate service to get a view what information is shared. I have done it out of a habit - and the level of control is extreme that no useful information is shared.

twiss 5y ago

There were before, for example: https://web.archive.org/web/20220225133800/https://novayagazeta.ru/ https://web.archive.org/web/20220225133800/https://novayagaz...