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The moral seems to be running low. Some videos: A caught saboteur https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1497580425086128132 https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1

The moral seems to be running low. Some videos: A caught saboteur https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1497580425086128132 https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1497580425086128132 Russian troops surrender to a local old guy in a village: https://twitter.com/kirillpartizan/status/1497317588673699841 https://twitter.com/kirillpartizan/status/149731758867369984... Somebody run away the convoy so fast that shoes were left behind https://twitter.com/christogrozev/status/1497591153645993994 https://twitter.com/christogrozev/status/1497591153645993994 Locals throwing Molotov’s coctails on passing Russian vehicles: https://twitter.com/MarQs__/status/1497572226643554304 https://twitter.com/MarQs__/status/1497572226643554304 Looks like there is a lack of fuel + food.

vanusa 5y ago
Locals throwing Molotov’s coctails on passing Russian vehicles And not very effectively, as the video indicates.
SubiculumCode 5y ago
There are reports that Russian tank drivers are selling the tank's fuel to locals and getting drunk on the proceeds, then abandoning their tanks e.g. [1] although I can't verify the veracity of these stories. [1] https://www.rferl.org/a/russian-troops-belarus-exercises-ukraine/31711282.html https://www.rferl.org/a/russian-troops-belarus-exercises-ukr...
- throwaway821909 5y ago
  Just to say for anyone skimming through, that story is from before the war was declared, maybe they really believed they were there for exercises. Still, embarassing.
  - tim333 5y ago
    Also in Belarus, not Ukraine.
- blunte 5y ago
  They can drink and hide and wait for the other Russian oligarchs whose wealth is being seriously threatened to remove their foolish leader and stop the idiotic war. That is more sensible than risking your life to kill your neighbor, all for the benefit of nothing but making a little man feel powerful.
- tguvot 5y ago
  Alternatively there are a bunch of more updated videos of russian solders looting stores for food and gas stations for disel
- stjohnswarts 5y ago
  that's a funny story but I have my doubts that superior officers have such little communication with their charges that something like that would happen without said tank occupants being court marshalled immediately
riku_iki 5y ago
> Russian troops surrender to a local old guy in a village this is very incorrect description, there is nothing like that in that episode. Local guy (why old?) is saying he will not allow Russians to come close to his house because he is afraid of shelling from Ukrainian artillery.
- toyg 5y ago
  One of the most annoying effects of modern warfare between developed countries (after deaths, suffering, devastation, etc etc) is that the internet gets filled with all sorts of propaganda crap from both sides. It reaches a point where every day makes me want to turn off the internet like it were April 1 - because you literally cannot trust anyone anymore.
  - Lascaille 5y ago
    >you literally cannot trust anyone anymore Been that way for a while. Have you seen the state of the reddit frontpage? 100% astroturf for the past 3+ years. Just try and participate and watch your comment sit at +1 while the bots all upvote each other and ignore you.
    - ogma 5y ago
    - BbzzbB 5y ago
      If it's on the front page you're just late to comment and your message disappears in new.
  - pseudo0 5y ago
    The "Ghost of Kyiv" flight sim footage being pushed by the Ukrainian MoD was a particularly absurd moment. It will be interesting to see how many of the prominent narratives turn out to be bullshit in a few weeks.
    - deleted 5y ago
blunte 5y ago
Yes, because why should a Russian soldier risk his/her life to fight a neighbor!? Only to stroke the ego of a small man? Surely the rank and file ground troops do not want this.
- scaramanga 5y ago
  Why would US troops risk their lives in the middle of Iraq to simply send a message to the world that the US can invade any country it likes, even for made up reasons, and nobody can stop them? Clearly nobody actually thinks about it that way. They are professionals and they carry out their legal orders, given to them by a properly constituted government, to the best of their ability. Yes, even if the orders are to conduct criminal was of aggression. Because at this stage of human history, the rules based international order is a hopeful fantasy.
  - chitowneats 5y ago
    It seems you're misremembering or discounting the American psyche in the immediate shadow of 9/11. While later proven to be false, accusations of WMD, and the insinuation they could be used against the US and/or Europe, were widely believed and likely highly motivating to the average American GI in 2003. I know men and women who enthusiastically signed up to fight in Afghanistan and Iraq who had little prior intention to join the military.
    - scaramanga 5y ago
      In the anti-war movement I can assure you that they were not believed. And with good reason, no evidence was presented. That is why we protested in huge numbers before the war began. If you go back and review press interviews with donald rumsfeld at the time you can see that even he could not provide evidence which convinced the journalists. Regardless, the media did their patriotic dtuy and reported them as fact. Check out the news clip of Rumsfelds "unknown unknowns". A journalist asks: "That is all very interesting but is there any evidence, because that would elevate our bind faith in to something actually reasonable and fact based?" Rumsfeld had nothing to offer.
overcast 5y ago
It sounds like the Russian population, and even the soldiers themselves don't know they are there, or at the very least why they are there. This guy calling his parents is just sad. Disposable conscripts sent to be fodder for something they are clueless about. https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/t1h7k4/ukrainian_soldiers_let_russian_captive_soldier_to/ https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/t1h7k4/ukra... https://www.reddit.com/r/MakeMyCoffin/comments/t1gq38/mmc_after_russia_doesnt_give_a_shit_about_my_body/ https://www.reddit.com/r/MakeMyCoffin/comments/t1gq38/mmc_af...
- weaksauce 5y ago
  yeah the general thought right now is that these are just young, mandatory conscripts that were kept in the dark right before deployment by calling it training exercises and then put them into war mode. fighting against a population that wants to live in their homes is hard. I wish all the Ukrainians fighting against this corrupt invasion all the best. I hope the crippling sanctions will not cause putin to do something drastic but rather force the oligarchs hand to depose him and stop the assault.
  - toyg 5y ago
    Unless it's the oligarchs who pushed for the war...
    - weaksauce 5y ago
      doubtful. putin is the mob boss and he has them in line up to a point. putin got power and strong armed the oligarchs into giving him a cut of their business and for them to stay out of politics. he made an example of one of them by putting the richest of the oligarchs at the time into prison... everyone else signed up. this is strictly putin being putin. edit also, a lot of the oligarch money is invested heavily in overseas banks that would and are being targeted by the sanctions. being a billionaire is not much if you can't access your money
    - dogma1138 5y ago
      What do they stand to gain? The entire oligarch angle doesn’t pass the smell test anymore these are billionaires that have billions on the line and nothing to gain from Russia which is still the main source of their questionable wealth becoming a pariah state.
azth 5y ago
Is this good or bad? Does it mean that Russia is not the threat that was once thought? Putin still holds nukes, and we don't want him to feel threatened enough to use them.
- nl 5y ago
  Who is he going to nuke? No one is threatening Russia. Tactical nukes seem pointless in the Ukrainian campaign, and strategic nuking Kiev when he wants it intact seems an odd thing to do.
  - kmlx 5y ago
    Ah, but Putin claimed Russia is under threat from Ukraine trying to join NATO, that neonazis have taken over Ukraine, that Ukraine is waging genocide on Russians… Of course all of this is theatre, just to keep in mind the current narrative.
    - stickfigure 5y ago
      Obviously he doesn't believe that, so his nuclear first strike threat is not very credible.
- adventured 5y ago
  What will he do as he realizes he can't hold Kyiv. When he realizes his plan of quick conquest failed, that the Russian military has been revealed to be an embarrassing mess on the global stage. I worry that he'll use increasingly vicious attacks on population centers, bombings, as an offset to cover up the ineptitude. He can't afford the loss of face, the show of weakness, that the present circumstances represent. His military is weak, poorly organized, incapable of pinpoint strategy, and he'll make up for it by brute force (which will get a lot of civilians killed). The US and Europe so far are pulling together (with Germany finally coming around more), so Ukraine appears that they'll have a supply of weapons to fight an occupation. The Ukrainians will hate any pro-Russian regime that gets installed and will topple it; the Ukrainian army will not align with Russia. It's hard to see a glorious winning outcome for Putin from here.
tasha0663 5y ago
> A caught saboteur https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1497580425086128132 https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1497580425086128132 If someone asked me to find the hidden Russian saboteur in the room, I'm absolutely checking the guy squatting in an Adidas parka first.
- jacquesm 5y ago
  He's Ukranian, recruited by the Russians to burn buildings for $5K which he was promised. Not the sharpest knife in the drawer.
tguvot 5y ago
New one: highway police and locals stop russian tank convoy and figuring out what to do with them. Tank's crew asking not to be filmed https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1497841614865289217 https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1497841614865289217

vanusa 5y ago

Locals throwing Molotov’s coctails on passing Russian vehicles And not very effectively, as the video indicates.

SubiculumCode 5y ago

There are reports that Russian tank drivers are selling the tank's fuel to locals and getting drunk on the proceeds, then abandoning their tanks e.g. [1] although I can't verify the veracity of these stories. [1] https://www.rferl.org/a/russian-troops-belarus-exercises-ukraine/31711282.html https://www.rferl.org/a/russian-troops-belarus-exercises-ukr...

throwaway821909 5y ago
Just to say for anyone skimming through, that story is from before the war was declared, maybe they really believed they were there for exercises. Still, embarassing.
- tim333 5y ago
  Also in Belarus, not Ukraine.
blunte 5y ago
They can drink and hide and wait for the other Russian oligarchs whose wealth is being seriously threatened to remove their foolish leader and stop the idiotic war. That is more sensible than risking your life to kill your neighbor, all for the benefit of nothing but making a little man feel powerful.
tguvot 5y ago
Alternatively there are a bunch of more updated videos of russian solders looting stores for food and gas stations for disel
stjohnswarts 5y ago
that's a funny story but I have my doubts that superior officers have such little communication with their charges that something like that would happen without said tank occupants being court marshalled immediately

riku_iki 5y ago

> Russian troops surrender to a local old guy in a village this is very incorrect description, there is nothing like that in that episode. Local guy (why old?) is saying he will not allow Russians to come close to his house because he is afraid of shelling from Ukrainian artillery.

toyg 5y ago
One of the most annoying effects of modern warfare between developed countries (after deaths, suffering, devastation, etc etc) is that the internet gets filled with all sorts of propaganda crap from both sides. It reaches a point where every day makes me want to turn off the internet like it were April 1 - because you literally cannot trust anyone anymore.
- Lascaille 5y ago
  >you literally cannot trust anyone anymore Been that way for a while. Have you seen the state of the reddit frontpage? 100% astroturf for the past 3+ years. Just try and participate and watch your comment sit at +1 while the bots all upvote each other and ignore you.
  - ogma 5y ago
  - BbzzbB 5y ago
    If it's on the front page you're just late to comment and your message disappears in new.
- pseudo0 5y ago
  The "Ghost of Kyiv" flight sim footage being pushed by the Ukrainian MoD was a particularly absurd moment. It will be interesting to see how many of the prominent narratives turn out to be bullshit in a few weeks.
  - deleted 5y ago

blunte 5y ago

Yes, because why should a Russian soldier risk his/her life to fight a neighbor!? Only to stroke the ego of a small man? Surely the rank and file ground troops do not want this.

scaramanga 5y ago
Why would US troops risk their lives in the middle of Iraq to simply send a message to the world that the US can invade any country it likes, even for made up reasons, and nobody can stop them? Clearly nobody actually thinks about it that way. They are professionals and they carry out their legal orders, given to them by a properly constituted government, to the best of their ability. Yes, even if the orders are to conduct criminal was of aggression. Because at this stage of human history, the rules based international order is a hopeful fantasy.
- chitowneats 5y ago
  It seems you're misremembering or discounting the American psyche in the immediate shadow of 9/11. While later proven to be false, accusations of WMD, and the insinuation they could be used against the US and/or Europe, were widely believed and likely highly motivating to the average American GI in 2003. I know men and women who enthusiastically signed up to fight in Afghanistan and Iraq who had little prior intention to join the military.
  - scaramanga 5y ago
    In the anti-war movement I can assure you that they were not believed. And with good reason, no evidence was presented. That is why we protested in huge numbers before the war began. If you go back and review press interviews with donald rumsfeld at the time you can see that even he could not provide evidence which convinced the journalists. Regardless, the media did their patriotic dtuy and reported them as fact. Check out the news clip of Rumsfelds "unknown unknowns". A journalist asks: "That is all very interesting but is there any evidence, because that would elevate our bind faith in to something actually reasonable and fact based?" Rumsfeld had nothing to offer.

overcast 5y ago

It sounds like the Russian population, and even the soldiers themselves don't know they are there, or at the very least why they are there. This guy calling his parents is just sad. Disposable conscripts sent to be fodder for something they are clueless about. https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/t1h7k4/ukrainian_soldiers_let_russian_captive_soldier_to/ https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/t1h7k4/ukra... https://www.reddit.com/r/MakeMyCoffin/comments/t1gq38/mmc_after_russia_doesnt_give_a_shit_about_my_body/ https://www.reddit.com/r/MakeMyCoffin/comments/t1gq38/mmc_af...

weaksauce 5y ago
yeah the general thought right now is that these are just young, mandatory conscripts that were kept in the dark right before deployment by calling it training exercises and then put them into war mode. fighting against a population that wants to live in their homes is hard. I wish all the Ukrainians fighting against this corrupt invasion all the best. I hope the crippling sanctions will not cause putin to do something drastic but rather force the oligarchs hand to depose him and stop the assault.
- toyg 5y ago
  Unless it's the oligarchs who pushed for the war...
  - weaksauce 5y ago
    doubtful. putin is the mob boss and he has them in line up to a point. putin got power and strong armed the oligarchs into giving him a cut of their business and for them to stay out of politics. he made an example of one of them by putting the richest of the oligarchs at the time into prison... everyone else signed up. this is strictly putin being putin. edit also, a lot of the oligarch money is invested heavily in overseas banks that would and are being targeted by the sanctions. being a billionaire is not much if you can't access your money
  - dogma1138 5y ago
    What do they stand to gain? The entire oligarch angle doesn’t pass the smell test anymore these are billionaires that have billions on the line and nothing to gain from Russia which is still the main source of their questionable wealth becoming a pariah state.

azth 5y ago

Is this good or bad? Does it mean that Russia is not the threat that was once thought? Putin still holds nukes, and we don't want him to feel threatened enough to use them.

nl 5y ago
Who is he going to nuke? No one is threatening Russia. Tactical nukes seem pointless in the Ukrainian campaign, and strategic nuking Kiev when he wants it intact seems an odd thing to do.
- kmlx 5y ago
  Ah, but Putin claimed Russia is under threat from Ukraine trying to join NATO, that neonazis have taken over Ukraine, that Ukraine is waging genocide on Russians… Of course all of this is theatre, just to keep in mind the current narrative.
  - stickfigure 5y ago
    Obviously he doesn't believe that, so his nuclear first strike threat is not very credible.
adventured 5y ago
What will he do as he realizes he can't hold Kyiv. When he realizes his plan of quick conquest failed, that the Russian military has been revealed to be an embarrassing mess on the global stage. I worry that he'll use increasingly vicious attacks on population centers, bombings, as an offset to cover up the ineptitude. He can't afford the loss of face, the show of weakness, that the present circumstances represent. His military is weak, poorly organized, incapable of pinpoint strategy, and he'll make up for it by brute force (which will get a lot of civilians killed). The US and Europe so far are pulling together (with Germany finally coming around more), so Ukraine appears that they'll have a supply of weapons to fight an occupation. The Ukrainians will hate any pro-Russian regime that gets installed and will topple it; the Ukrainian army will not align with Russia. It's hard to see a glorious winning outcome for Putin from here.

tasha0663 5y ago

> A caught saboteur https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1497580425086128132 https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1497580425086128132 If someone asked me to find the hidden Russian saboteur in the room, I'm absolutely checking the guy squatting in an Adidas parka first.

jacquesm 5y ago
He's Ukranian, recruited by the Russians to burn buildings for $5K which he was promised. Not the sharpest knife in the drawer.

tguvot 5y ago

New one: highway police and locals stop russian tank convoy and figuring out what to do with them. Tank's crew asking not to be filmed https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1497841614865289217 https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1497841614865289217