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Lets Get Arrested (2019)

392 points by disadvantage 5y ago

zxcvbn4038 5y ago
Kudos to the Japanese girl, I did the same thing once, wrote a three line BASIC program that printed "Your computer has a virus" repeatedly and the school admin panicked and shut down the computer lab for a week, giving us all extra time to write our papers. I didn't expect that but I gladly accepted the extra time. My best prank though was I had this one math teacher with short temper and a really nasty attitude, but almost no computer literacy. So one day I stopped by his computer and turned the bright setting on his monitor all the way down. The next day the school admin came by and tried to fix the computer and failed. A week later someone from the DOE came by and tried to fix the computer and failed. A week after that they put the monitor in a box and shipped it to IBM. About six weeks later the monitor came back from IBM, they unpacked it, made sure the computer booted to the DOS prompt, then walked away. On the way out of class I stopped by the computer, turned the bright setting all the way back down, and the whole cycle began again. Mr. McNasty had to manage things on paper that semester.
walkhour 5y ago
NYC 90s republicans would be proud of this extreme broken windows policy. Interestingly the murder rate in Japan is down 90% from the USA murder rate, while the GINI coefficient is 30 and 41 respectively. There are many other factors that can account for a crime increase of course, but I wonder if this kind of policing is helping to keep crime down. And I wonder if Japanase think so and support these policies.
______-_-______ 5y ago
This guy must be the most dangerous criminal alive: https://github.com/aaronryank/fork-bomb https://github.com/aaronryank/fork-bomb
- account42 5y ago
  The Bash example is simply wrong: #!/bin/bash ./$0|./$0& # $0 is the name of the shell script itself There is no need for the leading ./ if the script was invoked via a relative path ($0 will already have it) and adding it will break it if the script is invoked via an absolute path or name that is resolved against $PATH. Further, what $0 holds is only a convention and up to the caller. If you are already restricting yourself to Bash, used ${BASH_SOURCE[0]} to always get the path to the script file. But really, there is no need for a separate Bash version when the classic POSIX sh fork bomb already covers it (included in the repo as fork-bomb.sh): :(){:|:&};:
  - archduck 5y ago
    You'll get a syntax error if you try to run that - braces need spaces. https://stackoverflow.com/questions/21186724/why-is-whitespace-sometimes-needed-around-metacharacters https://stackoverflow.com/questions/21186724/why-is-whitespa... (The link here doubles as an explanation and as a warning to anyone thinking about getting a forkbomb tattoo.)
- WithinReason 5y ago
  I had to try the batch file fork bomb, this is the whole thing: %0|%0 Now my computer is just smoke and rubble.
  - nunez 5y ago
    PURE FUCKING EVIL.
    - WithinReason 5y ago
      told ya
  - skrebbel 5y ago
    Strictly put that's a CreateProcess bomb though
- btilly 5y ago
  I came up with a nastier fork bomb about 20 years ago. This also tries to eat your memory. It at least used to reliably hose any *nix system I tried it on, even ones where people had tried to put various process limits in place. #!/bin/sh perl -e 'push @big, 1 while 1' &; $0 &; $0
  - stjohnswarts 5y ago
    I wrote a c program that would slowly eat up memory over the course of about 15 minutes and use it to anger fellow college students progressively as the machine became slowly less and less reactive (rather than all at once with fork bombs and such) of course it would back off after a couple minute and start doing it again. After a couple of hours it would exit waiting for the next reboot. I'm glad I'm a lot more mature these days, and my pranks are less about enraging people in student labs. It's my understanding that most of these machine have programs that constantly sweep and delete such things in modern college labs, so that is a good change. Fortunately I grew weary of it after a week or two and deleted it off the few machines I put it on.
- belter 5y ago
  One word for you: 42.zip
remram 5y ago
From March 2019.
- ffhhj 5y ago
  Did they release the girl?
  - justinzollars 5y ago
    nope they kept her
joombaga 5y ago
Warning: Don't click this if you don't understand what it's doing. You may have trouble closing it. GH pages link: https://hamukazu.github.io/lets-get-arrested/ https://hamukazu.github.io/lets-get-arrested/
- timwis 5y ago
  Ahhh I accidentally zoomed on the page on mobile, so double tapped to unzoom and hit this. Proceeded to infinite loop Firefox on iOS. Oh well, time for a new phone anyway.
  - speedgoose 5y ago
    If you want to use Firefox you should get an Android smartphone. Apple forbids other browsers engines on iOS.
    - stjohnswarts 5y ago
      I doubt most people want to switch phone ecosystems over a browser. I love firefox and use it everywhere (linux, windows, freebsd, etc) including macos, but iphone overall is a better experience for me as a mobile OS so I stick with that.
      - account42 5y ago
        Switching phone ecosystems over a browser might not make sense, but switching over being restrictions on which browser engines you are allowed to use does imo.
    - MikePlacid 5y ago
      Lolwhat?? https://apps.apple.com/us/app/firefox-private-safe-browser/id989804926 https://apps.apple.com/us/app/firefox-private-safe-browser/i...
      - speedgoose 5y ago
duxup 5y ago
I assume this is all about this: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2019/03/japanese-police-charge-13-year-old-girl-for-infinite-javascript-popup-prank/ https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2019/03/japanese-police-...
- anamexis 5y ago
  Yes, it says so right at the top of the readme.
  - duxup 5y ago
    I could be wrong but I want to say that initially the link went to a tweet that was kinda vague, thus my response.
- deleted 5y ago
  [deleted]
m00dy 5y ago
Browsers should be taking care of continuous alert() calls.
- Osiris 5y ago
  They do. When I open it I get the option to not show alerts from this page again.
- Nextgrid 5y ago
  They do - modern browsers make "alert()" be a part of the page's content instead of browser UI - you can still interact with the browser's UI to close or switch away the tab. Maybe this entire incident was raised by an idiot opening it in a truly ancient browser?
- deleted 5y ago
  [deleted]
- ars 5y ago
  They do - there's a checkbox "Prevent this page from creating additional dialogs".
- themanmaran 5y ago
  I was surprised to see it still gets hung up on Chrome. I frequently see the "Prevent this page from creating additional dialogs?" option in Chrome. Not sure why it doesn't happen here.
  - Beltalowda 5y ago
    Usually you get this after two or three alerts, not the first one.
- deleted 5y ago
  [deleted]
- duped 5y ago
  Applications generally shouldn't have APIs that run foreign code that can freeze the app/page.
kiba 5y ago
Is there an update to this story?
- kakkun 5y ago
  The two adults that were arrested were not prosecuted. However, it seems like the police's stance was, "a crime was committed, but we decided to not prosecute based on the context, consequences of the crime, etc.", rather than, "there was no crime committed" There's more info from the law firm (in Japanese), but I really only know Japanese, not legalese. https://www.yokohama-park-law.com/news/20190529.html https://www.yokohama-park-law.com/news/20190529.html
andai 5y ago
There was a page in the early 2000s called the most annoying website in the world. It showed a very large (but finite: the site itself estimates 30-45 minutes) number of alerts. It also a prompt for your name and referred to you by your name. At the time I knew only HTML so I was blown away by a web page "talking" to me, and by inspecting the source I learned about the script tag, alerts, prompts, loops and variables. When it came out, the main browser was Internet Explorer, which became unresponsive until you got rid of all of the alerts. You could of course use Task Manager, or hold spacebar to go through them quickly, but most people didn't know that. Edit: holy smokes it's still up! http://mr.g.graham.tripod.com/ http://mr.g.graham.tripod.com/
- 0xbadcafebee 5y ago
  I had the same experience; "trick" websites like that got me so excited to find out what was possible. It's still kind of amazing that browsers let websites do all the things they do, considering the potential for abuse
  - dylan604 5y ago
    Some actually see the constant flow of alerts, and ask if you want to supress alerts for that site. So, depending on how quickly you interact with that site, the browser might save you.
- deleted 5y ago
  [deleted]
- Solstinox 5y ago
  Tripod and Lycos are still around?!
  - ghostbrainalpha 5y ago
    Lycos is still around but stopped providing free email in 2018.
    - 5y ago
axiosgunnar 5y ago
Let me play the devils advocate here: Why does it matter that what she did was a "simple" hack that didn't require exploiting fifteen CVEs at once? It's akin to pulling away the seat of a teacher who wants to sit down. Everybody is technically capable of pulling the seat away, it does not require any special skills. You still get in trouble if you do it.
- judge2020 5y ago
  > In the investigation of the criminal act, the police examined user logs of the bulletin board and found others also suspected of linking it. In response, they raided the house of an unemployed man and that of a 47-year-old construction worker. None of the three individuals appear to be accused of actually having written the infinite loop. Explaining her actions, the girl said that she'd run into such pranks herself and thought it would be funny if someone clicked the link. [0] No fun allowed I guess. 0: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2019/03/japanese-police-charge-13-year-old-girl-for-infinite-javascript-popup-prank/ https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2019/03/japanese-police-...
- maerF0x0 5y ago
  > It's akin to pulling away the seat of a teacher who wants to sit down. You dont usually go to jail for something that is immediately recoverable. (albeit embarrassing) . Detention might be in order though. Maybe we need a computer hacker equivalent of the drunk tank https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drunk_tank https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drunk_tank As a completely aside rant, we should levee a fee to alcohol companies to fund these drunk tanks, it makes no sense for that to be taxpayer/police budget funded.
  - dylan604 5y ago
    Or why not just have the occupant of said drunk tank fund it by paying a fine? Oh wait, they do that already by having arrested you and now commiting a portion of your future life dealing with the courts and the fines they levy.
    - 5y ago
PaulHoule 5y ago
Reminds me of this hilarious account from somebody who made a MySpace worm in the day https://samy.pl/myspace/ https://samy.pl/myspace/
- herrvogel- 5y ago
  There is a good darknet diaries episode with some more details about him. https://darknetdiaries.com/episode/61/ https://darknetdiaries.com/episode/61/
- aykae_ 5y ago
  Here’s a video of Samy recounting the same event: https://youtu.be/DtnuaHl378M https://youtu.be/DtnuaHl378M Personally not sure if I’d take an internet ban over jail time if I had his passion+acumen for cybersec…
high_pathetic 5y ago
Or if you want to get arrested in Russia you can go this way https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2022/02/10/russia-sentences-teens-over-terrorist-plot-to-blow-up-minecraft-fsb-building-a76328 https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2022/02/10/russia-sentences-t...
- vbezhenar 5y ago
  Or if you want to get life sentence in UK at 14, you can go this way https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2015/10/02/british-teen-receives-life-sentence-for-inciting-terrorist-act/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2015/10/02...
  - ViViDboarder 5y ago
    Un, this isn’t really like the others though. Making a JavaScript pop up, blowing up a building in a video game, and then your link is threatening to kill their teacher and then plotting a terrorist attack along with coconspirators in another country…
deleted 5y ago
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franciscop 5y ago
I live in Japan and I've read enough horror stories between the police and foreigners that I'd just like to say, don't mess with police here. They are very nice and polite, until they are not. They have been under heat multiple times for apparent human rights violations, which include indefinitely detaining people until they confess of the accused crime. Another beautiful quirk of Japanese law is that you can be held liable for crimes even if you have absolutely nothing to do with them, just by virtue of being family of the person who committed them, like in train suicide [1] or having some (even fairly removed) family member who was in the Yakuza [1] https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/families-fined-for-suicides-in-japan-1.1104002 https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/families-fined-for-su...
- cute_boi 5y ago
  It's not just Japan, but many part of the world.
  - stjohnswarts 5y ago
    I mean humans are humans and I think wanting to be a police office attracts a certain type of person where the per capita of "nice" goes way down vs the general population.
- sprayk 5y ago
  The first place most foreigners will get a taste of that (or at least where I got a taste) is the policeman with a very long stick standing on a small, raised platform in the train station below the Narita International Airport.
  - jdeibele 5y ago
    I'd never heard of this and spent a few minutes searching. I was expecting something like a 10-foot stick but it's more like 4-feet. (paywall but I used Safari's reader mode) https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2015/03/20/reference/police-who-stand-with-big-sticks/ https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2015/03/20/reference/polic...
cute_boi 5y ago
> Japanese authorities sentenced a 24-year-old man to one year in prison, suspended for three years, despite the man making only $45 from his exploits. > Japanese police have brought in, questioned, and charged a 13-year-old female student from the city of Kariya for sharing browser exploit code online. >Japanese police also arrested a 17-year-old boy in February 2018 for creating malware that stole the passwords of cryptocurrency wallets, and another 14-year-old in June 2017, for creating ransomware, and later sharing the code online, despite the teen never using the ransomware in any attacks, and later admitting to having created it as a curiosity. Insane huh! This will not solve the problem, but will just increase police hostility. No wonder, why people disdain them.
fasteo 5y ago
I tried to search for the actual law she broke to no avail Any pointer ?
Ourgon 5y ago
Odd, just closing the tab is enough to get rid of the "menace". I tried this in Firefox on Linux (my "daily" browser), Chromium on Linux, Firefox on Android and Chromium on Android. Those browsers were around in 2019, they supported tabs. I know the Japanese police suffers from a lack of crime - a luxury problem if there is any - but this... is taking that suffering to an unfortunate conclusion. Alternatively, IE6 is still big in Japan and this turns out to be quite effective in bringing it down.
- fomine3 5y ago
  Another stupid case by Japan local police (2018 Coinhive arrests) finally got not guilty on supreme court. The lawyer of the case suspected that cyber criminal arrest quota was assigned to police because Tokyo 2020 Olympic was incoming and cyber criminal was a concern. Stupid bureaucracy system.
kingcharles 5y ago
I wouldn't be so quick to think this isn't also illegal in the USA. For instance, it is illegal in Illinois to: Sec. 17-50. Computer fraud. (a) A person commits computer fraud when he or she knowingly: (1) Accesses or causes to be accessed a computer or any part thereof, or a program or data, with the intent of devising or executing any scheme or artifice to defraud, or as part of a deception; It could be argued that linking someone to the pop-up, making them think the site they were going to was normal, and then getting hit with an uncloseable pop-up was "a deception".

392 points by disadvantage 5y ago

Kudos to the Japanese girl, I did the same thing once, wrote a three line BASIC program that printed "Your computer has a virus" repeatedly and the school admin panicked and shut down the computer lab for a week, giving us all extra time to write our papers. I didn't expect that but I gladly accepted the extra time. My best prank though was I had this one math teacher with short temper and a really nasty attitude, but almost no computer literacy. So one day I stopped by his computer and turned the bright setting on his monitor all the way down. The next day the school admin came by and tried to fix the computer and failed. A week later someone from the DOE came by and tried to fix the computer and failed. A week after that they put the monitor in a box and shipped it to IBM. About six weeks later the monitor came back from IBM, they unpacked it, made sure the computer booted to the DOS prompt, then walked away. On the way out of class I stopped by the computer, turned the bright setting all the way back down, and the whole cycle began again. Mr. McNasty had to manage things on paper that semester.

walkhour 5y ago

NYC 90s republicans would be proud of this extreme broken windows policy. Interestingly the murder rate in Japan is down 90% from the USA murder rate, while the GINI coefficient is 30 and 41 respectively. There are many other factors that can account for a crime increase of course, but I wonder if this kind of policing is helping to keep crime down. And I wonder if Japanase think so and support these policies.

______-_-______ 5y ago

This guy must be the most dangerous criminal alive: https://github.com/aaronryank/fork-bomb https://github.com/aaronryank/fork-bomb

account42 5y ago
The Bash example is simply wrong: #!/bin/bash ./$0|./$0& # $0 is the name of the shell script itself There is no need for the leading ./ if the script was invoked via a relative path ($0 will already have it) and adding it will break it if the script is invoked via an absolute path or name that is resolved against $PATH. Further, what $0 holds is only a convention and up to the caller. If you are already restricting yourself to Bash, used ${BASH_SOURCE[0]} to always get the path to the script file. But really, there is no need for a separate Bash version when the classic POSIX sh fork bomb already covers it (included in the repo as fork-bomb.sh): :(){:|:&};:
- archduck 5y ago
  You'll get a syntax error if you try to run that - braces need spaces. https://stackoverflow.com/questions/21186724/why-is-whitespace-sometimes-needed-around-metacharacters https://stackoverflow.com/questions/21186724/why-is-whitespa... (The link here doubles as an explanation and as a warning to anyone thinking about getting a forkbomb tattoo.)
WithinReason 5y ago
I had to try the batch file fork bomb, this is the whole thing: %0|%0 Now my computer is just smoke and rubble.
- nunez 5y ago
  PURE FUCKING EVIL.
  - WithinReason 5y ago
    told ya
- skrebbel 5y ago
  Strictly put that's a CreateProcess bomb though
btilly 5y ago
I came up with a nastier fork bomb about 20 years ago. This also tries to eat your memory. It at least used to reliably hose any *nix system I tried it on, even ones where people had tried to put various process limits in place. #!/bin/sh perl -e 'push @big, 1 while 1' &; $0 &; $0
- stjohnswarts 5y ago
  I wrote a c program that would slowly eat up memory over the course of about 15 minutes and use it to anger fellow college students progressively as the machine became slowly less and less reactive (rather than all at once with fork bombs and such) of course it would back off after a couple minute and start doing it again. After a couple of hours it would exit waiting for the next reboot. I'm glad I'm a lot more mature these days, and my pranks are less about enraging people in student labs. It's my understanding that most of these machine have programs that constantly sweep and delete such things in modern college labs, so that is a good change. Fortunately I grew weary of it after a week or two and deleted it off the few machines I put it on.
belter 5y ago
One word for you: 42.zip

remram 5y ago

From March 2019.

ffhhj 5y ago
Did they release the girl?
- justinzollars 5y ago
  nope they kept her

joombaga 5y ago

Warning: Don't click this if you don't understand what it's doing. You may have trouble closing it. GH pages link: https://hamukazu.github.io/lets-get-arrested/ https://hamukazu.github.io/lets-get-arrested/

timwis 5y ago
Ahhh I accidentally zoomed on the page on mobile, so double tapped to unzoom and hit this. Proceeded to infinite loop Firefox on iOS. Oh well, time for a new phone anyway.
- speedgoose 5y ago
  If you want to use Firefox you should get an Android smartphone. Apple forbids other browsers engines on iOS.
  - stjohnswarts 5y ago
    I doubt most people want to switch phone ecosystems over a browser. I love firefox and use it everywhere (linux, windows, freebsd, etc) including macos, but iphone overall is a better experience for me as a mobile OS so I stick with that.
    - account42 5y ago
      Switching phone ecosystems over a browser might not make sense, but switching over being restrictions on which browser engines you are allowed to use does imo.
  - MikePlacid 5y ago
    Lolwhat?? https://apps.apple.com/us/app/firefox-private-safe-browser/id989804926 https://apps.apple.com/us/app/firefox-private-safe-browser/i...
    - speedgoose 5y ago

duxup 5y ago

I assume this is all about this: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2019/03/japanese-police-charge-13-year-old-girl-for-infinite-javascript-popup-prank/ https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2019/03/japanese-police-...

anamexis 5y ago
Yes, it says so right at the top of the readme.
- duxup 5y ago
  I could be wrong but I want to say that initially the link went to a tweet that was kinda vague, thus my response.
deleted 5y ago
[deleted]

m00dy 5y ago

Browsers should be taking care of continuous alert() calls.

Osiris 5y ago
They do. When I open it I get the option to not show alerts from this page again.
Nextgrid 5y ago
They do - modern browsers make "alert()" be a part of the page's content instead of browser UI - you can still interact with the browser's UI to close or switch away the tab. Maybe this entire incident was raised by an idiot opening it in a truly ancient browser?
deleted 5y ago
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ars 5y ago
They do - there's a checkbox "Prevent this page from creating additional dialogs".
themanmaran 5y ago
I was surprised to see it still gets hung up on Chrome. I frequently see the "Prevent this page from creating additional dialogs?" option in Chrome. Not sure why it doesn't happen here.
- Beltalowda 5y ago
  Usually you get this after two or three alerts, not the first one.
deleted 5y ago
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duped 5y ago
Applications generally shouldn't have APIs that run foreign code that can freeze the app/page.

kiba 5y ago

Is there an update to this story?

kakkun 5y ago
The two adults that were arrested were not prosecuted. However, it seems like the police's stance was, "a crime was committed, but we decided to not prosecute based on the context, consequences of the crime, etc.", rather than, "there was no crime committed" There's more info from the law firm (in Japanese), but I really only know Japanese, not legalese. https://www.yokohama-park-law.com/news/20190529.html https://www.yokohama-park-law.com/news/20190529.html

andai 5y ago

There was a page in the early 2000s called the most annoying website in the world. It showed a very large (but finite: the site itself estimates 30-45 minutes) number of alerts. It also a prompt for your name and referred to you by your name. At the time I knew only HTML so I was blown away by a web page "talking" to me, and by inspecting the source I learned about the script tag, alerts, prompts, loops and variables. When it came out, the main browser was Internet Explorer, which became unresponsive until you got rid of all of the alerts. You could of course use Task Manager, or hold spacebar to go through them quickly, but most people didn't know that. Edit: holy smokes it's still up! http://mr.g.graham.tripod.com/ http://mr.g.graham.tripod.com/

0xbadcafebee 5y ago
I had the same experience; "trick" websites like that got me so excited to find out what was possible. It's still kind of amazing that browsers let websites do all the things they do, considering the potential for abuse
- dylan604 5y ago
  Some actually see the constant flow of alerts, and ask if you want to supress alerts for that site. So, depending on how quickly you interact with that site, the browser might save you.
deleted 5y ago
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Solstinox 5y ago
Tripod and Lycos are still around?!
- ghostbrainalpha 5y ago
  Lycos is still around but stopped providing free email in 2018.
  - 5y ago

axiosgunnar 5y ago

Let me play the devils advocate here: Why does it matter that what she did was a "simple" hack that didn't require exploiting fifteen CVEs at once? It's akin to pulling away the seat of a teacher who wants to sit down. Everybody is technically capable of pulling the seat away, it does not require any special skills. You still get in trouble if you do it.

judge2020 5y ago
> In the investigation of the criminal act, the police examined user logs of the bulletin board and found others also suspected of linking it. In response, they raided the house of an unemployed man and that of a 47-year-old construction worker. None of the three individuals appear to be accused of actually having written the infinite loop. Explaining her actions, the girl said that she'd run into such pranks herself and thought it would be funny if someone clicked the link. [0] No fun allowed I guess. 0: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2019/03/japanese-police-charge-13-year-old-girl-for-infinite-javascript-popup-prank/ https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2019/03/japanese-police-...
maerF0x0 5y ago
> It's akin to pulling away the seat of a teacher who wants to sit down. You dont usually go to jail for something that is immediately recoverable. (albeit embarrassing) . Detention might be in order though. Maybe we need a computer hacker equivalent of the drunk tank https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drunk_tank https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drunk_tank As a completely aside rant, we should levee a fee to alcohol companies to fund these drunk tanks, it makes no sense for that to be taxpayer/police budget funded.
- dylan604 5y ago
  Or why not just have the occupant of said drunk tank fund it by paying a fine? Oh wait, they do that already by having arrested you and now commiting a portion of your future life dealing with the courts and the fines they levy.
  - 5y ago

PaulHoule 5y ago

Reminds me of this hilarious account from somebody who made a MySpace worm in the day https://samy.pl/myspace/ https://samy.pl/myspace/

herrvogel- 5y ago
There is a good darknet diaries episode with some more details about him. https://darknetdiaries.com/episode/61/ https://darknetdiaries.com/episode/61/
aykae_ 5y ago
Here’s a video of Samy recounting the same event: https://youtu.be/DtnuaHl378M https://youtu.be/DtnuaHl378M Personally not sure if I’d take an internet ban over jail time if I had his passion+acumen for cybersec…

high_pathetic 5y ago

Or if you want to get arrested in Russia you can go this way https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2022/02/10/russia-sentences-teens-over-terrorist-plot-to-blow-up-minecraft-fsb-building-a76328 https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2022/02/10/russia-sentences-t...

vbezhenar 5y ago
Or if you want to get life sentence in UK at 14, you can go this way https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2015/10/02/british-teen-receives-life-sentence-for-inciting-terrorist-act/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2015/10/02...
- ViViDboarder 5y ago
  Un, this isn’t really like the others though. Making a JavaScript pop up, blowing up a building in a video game, and then your link is threatening to kill their teacher and then plotting a terrorist attack along with coconspirators in another country…

deleted 5y ago

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franciscop 5y ago

I live in Japan and I've read enough horror stories between the police and foreigners that I'd just like to say, don't mess with police here. They are very nice and polite, until they are not. They have been under heat multiple times for apparent human rights violations, which include indefinitely detaining people until they confess of the accused crime. Another beautiful quirk of Japanese law is that you can be held liable for crimes even if you have absolutely nothing to do with them, just by virtue of being family of the person who committed them, like in train suicide [1] or having some (even fairly removed) family member who was in the Yakuza [1] https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/families-fined-for-suicides-in-japan-1.1104002 https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/families-fined-for-su...

cute_boi 5y ago
It's not just Japan, but many part of the world.
- stjohnswarts 5y ago
  I mean humans are humans and I think wanting to be a police office attracts a certain type of person where the per capita of "nice" goes way down vs the general population.
sprayk 5y ago
The first place most foreigners will get a taste of that (or at least where I got a taste) is the policeman with a very long stick standing on a small, raised platform in the train station below the Narita International Airport.
- jdeibele 5y ago
  I'd never heard of this and spent a few minutes searching. I was expecting something like a 10-foot stick but it's more like 4-feet. (paywall but I used Safari's reader mode) https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2015/03/20/reference/police-who-stand-with-big-sticks/ https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2015/03/20/reference/polic...

cute_boi 5y ago

> Japanese authorities sentenced a 24-year-old man to one year in prison, suspended for three years, despite the man making only $45 from his exploits. > Japanese police have brought in, questioned, and charged a 13-year-old female student from the city of Kariya for sharing browser exploit code online. >Japanese police also arrested a 17-year-old boy in February 2018 for creating malware that stole the passwords of cryptocurrency wallets, and another 14-year-old in June 2017, for creating ransomware, and later sharing the code online, despite the teen never using the ransomware in any attacks, and later admitting to having created it as a curiosity. Insane huh! This will not solve the problem, but will just increase police hostility. No wonder, why people disdain them.

fasteo 5y ago

I tried to search for the actual law she broke to no avail Any pointer ?

Ourgon 5y ago

Odd, just closing the tab is enough to get rid of the "menace". I tried this in Firefox on Linux (my "daily" browser), Chromium on Linux, Firefox on Android and Chromium on Android. Those browsers were around in 2019, they supported tabs. I know the Japanese police suffers from a lack of crime - a luxury problem if there is any - but this... is taking that suffering to an unfortunate conclusion. Alternatively, IE6 is still big in Japan and this turns out to be quite effective in bringing it down.

fomine3 5y ago
Another stupid case by Japan local police (2018 Coinhive arrests) finally got not guilty on supreme court. The lawyer of the case suspected that cyber criminal arrest quota was assigned to police because Tokyo 2020 Olympic was incoming and cyber criminal was a concern. Stupid bureaucracy system.

kingcharles 5y ago

I wouldn't be so quick to think this isn't also illegal in the USA. For instance, it is illegal in Illinois to: Sec. 17-50. Computer fraud. (a) A person commits computer fraud when he or she knowingly: (1) Accesses or causes to be accessed a computer or any part thereof, or a program or data, with the intent of devising or executing any scheme or artifice to defraud, or as part of a deception; It could be argued that linking someone to the pop-up, making them think the site they were going to was normal, and then getting hit with an uncloseable pop-up was "a deception".