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We need to change our society to make that not the case. The status quo is completely unacceptable. Allowing a small number of people complaining on Twitter t

We need to change our society to make that not the case. The status quo is completely unacceptable. Allowing a small number of people complaining on Twitter to silence opposing political views of people through pressuring their employer, is a stain on our culture and we need to find a way to change it.

systemvoltage 5y ago
It’s not just the extreme left which is most frequently engaged in mob mentality of suppression, cancel culture is also from extreme right: Carhartt’s boycott for instituting vaccine policy. I have started seeing people that camp out in these echo chambers as uncompassionate, immoral and fundamentally dangerous people. Dangerous in the sense that they’re toxic for a peaceful democracy.
- drewcoo 5y ago
  The "extreme left" is not doing this. Those of us who are over here are deeply concerned about civil liberties even of people we don't like. Just like the ACLU used to be, defending Nazis because if you take away their speech, who's next? The suppression is coming from "moderate" liberals. They're the ones who captured the ACLU when they suddenly got lots of money and grew and became the anti-Trump league. I'm not a Trumper, but he's much less of a threat to civil liberties than those moderate liberals. In the same way the ACLU has flipped, perceptions of a simple left/right divide need to change. Old labels don't make sense.
- jimbokun 5y ago
  > It’s not just the extreme left which is most frequently engaged in mob mentality of suppression, cancel culture is also from extreme right: Agree 100%. This is a bipartisan issue and our discourse is being dictated more and more by the political fringes.
mpalmer 5y ago
You've chosen maybe the worst example to make this particular point. When you are responsible for the brand image of a company, making unauthorized media appearances is absolutely actionable, regardless of the reaction on Twitter.
NoSorryCannot 5y ago
It isn't new and it isn't going away. Employers have always exercised discretion in dismissing employees, and they especially exercise it for high-profile ambassador-like figures in the company. Public outcry (also not new), possibly amplified by media (again, not new), is just one justification they might use, and it's not the worst or most chilling among them. There is no satisfying solution to stop this because of course we generally want businesses to be capable of responding to public pressure, though we might not always agree with the outrage or like the people it comes from.
- raxxorrax 5y ago
  You can change that in that you rise awareness that the "outrage" is infantile to a large degree. People can learn and most people don't believe PR statements anyway. The rules of PR are based on culture and aren't written into stone.
- jimbokun 5y ago
  > There is no satisfying solution to stop this because of course we generally want businesses to be capable of responding to public pressure Do we? The public pressure generally comes from a small but very motivated minority, that rarely reflects the opinions of the broader population.

systemvoltage 5y ago

It’s not just the extreme left which is most frequently engaged in mob mentality of suppression, cancel culture is also from extreme right: Carhartt’s boycott for instituting vaccine policy. I have started seeing people that camp out in these echo chambers as uncompassionate, immoral and fundamentally dangerous people. Dangerous in the sense that they’re toxic for a peaceful democracy.

drewcoo 5y ago
The "extreme left" is not doing this. Those of us who are over here are deeply concerned about civil liberties even of people we don't like. Just like the ACLU used to be, defending Nazis because if you take away their speech, who's next? The suppression is coming from "moderate" liberals. They're the ones who captured the ACLU when they suddenly got lots of money and grew and became the anti-Trump league. I'm not a Trumper, but he's much less of a threat to civil liberties than those moderate liberals. In the same way the ACLU has flipped, perceptions of a simple left/right divide need to change. Old labels don't make sense.
jimbokun 5y ago
> It’s not just the extreme left which is most frequently engaged in mob mentality of suppression, cancel culture is also from extreme right: Agree 100%. This is a bipartisan issue and our discourse is being dictated more and more by the political fringes.

mpalmer 5y ago

You've chosen maybe the worst example to make this particular point. When you are responsible for the brand image of a company, making unauthorized media appearances is absolutely actionable, regardless of the reaction on Twitter.

NoSorryCannot 5y ago

It isn't new and it isn't going away. Employers have always exercised discretion in dismissing employees, and they especially exercise it for high-profile ambassador-like figures in the company. Public outcry (also not new), possibly amplified by media (again, not new), is just one justification they might use, and it's not the worst or most chilling among them. There is no satisfying solution to stop this because of course we generally want businesses to be capable of responding to public pressure, though we might not always agree with the outrage or like the people it comes from.

raxxorrax 5y ago
You can change that in that you rise awareness that the "outrage" is infantile to a large degree. People can learn and most people don't believe PR statements anyway. The rules of PR are based on culture and aren't written into stone.
jimbokun 5y ago
> There is no satisfying solution to stop this because of course we generally want businesses to be capable of responding to public pressure Do we? The public pressure generally comes from a small but very motivated minority, that rarely reflects the opinions of the broader population.