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> Grabbing a random machine and expecting it to work fine Not random, but my current machine. How else am I (or random person on the Internet) to migrate to Li

by Ygg2 5y ago

> Grabbing a random machine and expecting it to work fine Not random, but my current machine. How else am I (or random person on the Internet) to migrate to Linux then? Create an entire new machine just for Linux? That is a pretty hefty price. E.g. You bought an expensive nVidia card. Yeah, throw it away. Get AMD. Want dual monitors. Throw one away... I honestly dread switching to Linux. > Certainly some people have Windows-only apps (or games) they can't do without Stuff like Office (not online ones), Adobe suite, video editors, sound editors, etc.

mhaberl 5y ago
> Create an entire new machine just for Linux? That is a pretty hefty price. I understand what you are saying but it is not such a big deal in practice as it may seem. You migrate if your current machine supports linux (you have to do some research), OR you migrate the next time you switch machines. Linux is my daily driver for 15+ years now and the hardware/drivers stuff doesn't bother me at all. I am currently using two xps laptops and one custom built desktop - everything worked out of the box. I had good experience with thinkpads in the past.
pbhjpbhj 5y ago
Worth noting a lot of people had to upgrade their computer for Win10 (2 of my relatives were told they had to buy new computers by Windows but I managed to upgrade them with out after lots of fiddling), a lot will have to upgrade for Win11 (to get TPM2 modules). I think the answer to the last one is if you need Microsoft software then use it. Not much you can do if your chosen vendor doesn't support other OS (WINE, VMs, and such aside).
- thejynxed 5y ago
  TPM 2 plus a BIOS update for any board made pre August of 2021, & 60GB or so of free space on their OS drive, which these days is also more of a rarity since the trend has been small OS SSD drive with large secondary & storage drives.
Dylan16807 5y ago
If it's a desktop nothing should go wrong. If it's a laptop then buying an entire machine is the norm. If you want to test hardware you already own, then just do it. No need to do any real research there.
- Ygg2 5y ago
  > If it's a desktop nothing should go wrong. Should isn't won't. https://youtu.be/0506yDSgU7M https://youtu.be/0506yDSgU7M
  - Dylan16807 5y ago
    I don't recall that series having much in the way of hardware problems, excluding the goxlr and such because that's not part of the desktop. If it was unclear that my sentence was in the scope of hardware, sorry. I remember Luke saying multiple monitors broke at one point on his laptop, but that was a laptop.
barbs 5y ago
> Want dual monitors. Throw one away... I've used dual monitors on my linux setup for years without issues. Is this a common problem?
- richardcrossley 5y ago
  I've been using dual screens on Linux since 2009 and for the last 2 years triple screens. My current PC is using and nVidia 1660 GPU to drive this. I'm running Ubuntu 20.04. It wasn't out-of-the-box easy to install, but running installer in safe-mode worked and regular boots are as normal. Even on laptops dual screens work provided the laptop supports it.
- jsymolon 5y ago
  There is a problem if there is a mismatched DPI between screens. I've rarely seen it as i usually dock the machine with duplicate monitors.
  - mijoharas 5y ago
    This used to require some tweaking under gnome (different DPI), but is nice and smooth under wayland.
lionkor 5y ago
You're just making stuff up now. I bought an RTX 2070 (nvidia, as you know), and it worked fine, runs all my games, under archlinux just fine. Same with dual, triple monitors, etc.
- Ygg2 5y ago
  For you. On your hardware and your distro. I've seen and heard stuff going south from word go.
- AnIdiotOnTheNet 5y ago
  > You're just making stuff up now. Linux Desktop evangelists being like this also makes people not want to switch. Who wants to deal with a community like that?
prmoustache 5y ago
It all comes down to the time you are willing to dedicate in learning something new. For most of the stuff that runs on windows and mac there are alternatives on linux, some equal, some worse, some better. I have been mostly a linux users for years. I still have one laptop with a dual boot on windows...for only one use case: music production. Not because there are no music production software available, not because they aren't good, quite the contrary there are fairly decent tools both opensource and proprietary, but because I don't know them well. I only do music as a hobby in my free time and so far I have been too lazy, or more interested in producing music than learning a new workflow. I admit it is mostly about laziness and time to dedicate to something new. I intend to correct that because I don't want to feel forced to use windows, which I mostly hate for anything else, for that.
Mikeb85 5y ago
Honestly, your machine will probably work. Linux supports a lot of hardware. Nowadays it's rare to find any that doesn't work. > You bought an expensive nVidia card. Yeah, throw it away Nvidia works fine (it has to, lots of ML shit on GPUs is done on Linux), you just need proprietary drivers. If anything their support on Linux is probably better than AMD's. Why? Just make an Ubuntu startup stick and try it without installing... Nothing lost except maybe 10 minutes of your time.
testrun 5y ago
What on earth are you talking about? I am running Ubuntu 21.10 with triple monitors and a Nvidia 3090.

by Ygg2 5y ago

mhaberl 5y ago

> Create an entire new machine just for Linux? That is a pretty hefty price. I understand what you are saying but it is not such a big deal in practice as it may seem. You migrate if your current machine supports linux (you have to do some research), OR you migrate the next time you switch machines. Linux is my daily driver for 15+ years now and the hardware/drivers stuff doesn't bother me at all. I am currently using two xps laptops and one custom built desktop - everything worked out of the box. I had good experience with thinkpads in the past.

pbhjpbhj 5y ago

Worth noting a lot of people had to upgrade their computer for Win10 (2 of my relatives were told they had to buy new computers by Windows but I managed to upgrade them with out after lots of fiddling), a lot will have to upgrade for Win11 (to get TPM2 modules). I think the answer to the last one is if you need Microsoft software then use it. Not much you can do if your chosen vendor doesn't support other OS (WINE, VMs, and such aside).

thejynxed 5y ago
TPM 2 plus a BIOS update for any board made pre August of 2021, & 60GB or so of free space on their OS drive, which these days is also more of a rarity since the trend has been small OS SSD drive with large secondary & storage drives.

Dylan16807 5y ago

If it's a desktop nothing should go wrong. If it's a laptop then buying an entire machine is the norm. If you want to test hardware you already own, then just do it. No need to do any real research there.

Ygg2 5y ago
> If it's a desktop nothing should go wrong. Should isn't won't. https://youtu.be/0506yDSgU7M https://youtu.be/0506yDSgU7M
- Dylan16807 5y ago
  I don't recall that series having much in the way of hardware problems, excluding the goxlr and such because that's not part of the desktop. If it was unclear that my sentence was in the scope of hardware, sorry. I remember Luke saying multiple monitors broke at one point on his laptop, but that was a laptop.

barbs 5y ago

> Want dual monitors. Throw one away... I've used dual monitors on my linux setup for years without issues. Is this a common problem?

richardcrossley 5y ago
I've been using dual screens on Linux since 2009 and for the last 2 years triple screens. My current PC is using and nVidia 1660 GPU to drive this. I'm running Ubuntu 20.04. It wasn't out-of-the-box easy to install, but running installer in safe-mode worked and regular boots are as normal. Even on laptops dual screens work provided the laptop supports it.
jsymolon 5y ago
There is a problem if there is a mismatched DPI between screens. I've rarely seen it as i usually dock the machine with duplicate monitors.
- mijoharas 5y ago
  This used to require some tweaking under gnome (different DPI), but is nice and smooth under wayland.

lionkor 5y ago

You're just making stuff up now. I bought an RTX 2070 (nvidia, as you know), and it worked fine, runs all my games, under archlinux just fine. Same with dual, triple monitors, etc.

Ygg2 5y ago
For you. On your hardware and your distro. I've seen and heard stuff going south from word go.
AnIdiotOnTheNet 5y ago
> You're just making stuff up now. Linux Desktop evangelists being like this also makes people not want to switch. Who wants to deal with a community like that?

prmoustache 5y ago

It all comes down to the time you are willing to dedicate in learning something new. For most of the stuff that runs on windows and mac there are alternatives on linux, some equal, some worse, some better. I have been mostly a linux users for years. I still have one laptop with a dual boot on windows...for only one use case: music production. Not because there are no music production software available, not because they aren't good, quite the contrary there are fairly decent tools both opensource and proprietary, but because I don't know them well. I only do music as a hobby in my free time and so far I have been too lazy, or more interested in producing music than learning a new workflow. I admit it is mostly about laziness and time to dedicate to something new. I intend to correct that because I don't want to feel forced to use windows, which I mostly hate for anything else, for that.

Mikeb85 5y ago

Honestly, your machine will probably work. Linux supports a lot of hardware. Nowadays it's rare to find any that doesn't work. > You bought an expensive nVidia card. Yeah, throw it away Nvidia works fine (it has to, lots of ML shit on GPUs is done on Linux), you just need proprietary drivers. If anything their support on Linux is probably better than AMD's. Why? Just make an Ubuntu startup stick and try it without installing... Nothing lost except maybe 10 minutes of your time.

testrun 5y ago

What on earth are you talking about? I am running Ubuntu 21.10 with triple monitors and a Nvidia 3090.