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I know the title here is accurate to the original title, but what does this have to do with the fact that he is a white collar worker? Also, given the exception

by voisin 5y ago

I know the title here is accurate to the original title, but what does this have to do with the fact that he is a white collar worker? Also, given the exceptionally low IQ, I am not sure it is truly “white collar” work as the term is normally used (normally referring more to knowledge workers). I assume whatever admin work he was doing was more akin to routine factory work with little agency.

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AnimalMuppet 5y ago
Admin work is still white-collar work. Basically, if you can get grease or dirt on your clothes, it's blue collar; if you can't, it's white. (Because people didn't wear white shirts in jobs where they could get dirty.)
- amelius 5y ago
  > Basically, if you can get grease or dirt on your clothes, it's blue collar; There are also orange-collar workers.
  - openknot 5y ago
    Wikipedia entry for orange-collar workers: "Prison laborers, named for the orange jumpsuits commonly worn by inmates." [0] The article also defines pink collar workers (service workers in the working class) and purple collar workers (principally white collar workers who occasionally do blue collar tasks, like technicians and engineers; note there's no citation for this). I personally don't think the other colors mentioned in the Wikipedia are useful, since the whole idea of blue vs. white collar seems to be a metaphor of referring to manual labour to office work. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Designation_of_workers_by_collar_color https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Designation_of_workers_by_coll...
  - turrican 5y ago
    What are these?
- voisin 5y ago
  I understand the technical distinction but in common practice it seems to be used more and more as interchangeable with knowledge workers.
  - dymk 5y ago
    On this forum full of techies, perhaps, but in the more general social sphere of "America" it's understood that even menial admin work is white collar work.
Kuinox 5y ago
Exceptionally low ? 12% of the population is below 80 iq. 75 IQ is not exceptional, it's common.
- chaorace 5y ago
  The number increments get more significant the further from 100 you get. 75 IQ is under the fifth percentile -- definitely not common.
  - patcon 5y ago
    I recognize that this is kinda subjective, but I'm a bit baffled that someone wouldn't find 1-in-20 to be "common". Though it's not homogenous, that's very conservatively the equivalent of one child in every classroom. It's millions of people, even in a small country.
    - throwawayboise 5y ago
      To me, "common" means roughly 50% or more, with less than that being some degree of "rare." 1-in-20 I would definitely call rare.
      - 7373737373 5y ago
        I once saw a website I think where histograms of each of such words were plotted, can't find it anymore though
        kthejoker2 5y ago
        You're probably thinking of this HBR article by Andrew and Michael Maboussin https://hbr.org/2018/07/if-you-say-something-is-likely-how-likely-do-people-think-it-is https://hbr.org/2018/07/if-you-say-something-is-likely-how-l... which is an updated take on the methodology of Dick Heuer's Psychology of Intelligence Analysis https://prasadcapital.com/2018/07/03/book-summary-psychology-of-intelligence-analysis/ https://prasadcapital.com/2018/07/03/book-summary-psychology... , which itself was driven by the research into words of estimative probability by CIA legend Sherman Kent. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Words_of_estimative_probability https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Words_of_estimative_probabilit...
nine_k 5y ago
The fact that he is a white-collar worker is salient. The person is able to earn a living using the obviously highly-altered brain as the centerpiece of the work.
- rbanffy 5y ago
  Interesting to note the low IQ scores. It is well below average and yet still functioning and performing a useful job for society.
stefan_ 5y ago
... because you need to be smart to be a white-collar worker? Hell, that fluid pushes a little bit different, makes him a sociopath, and he'd be on track for CEO! Have you been in the workforce long, because raw intelligence has very little to do with any of the jobs I have seen.

by voisin 5y ago

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AnimalMuppet 5y ago

Admin work is still white-collar work. Basically, if you can get grease or dirt on your clothes, it's blue collar; if you can't, it's white. (Because people didn't wear white shirts in jobs where they could get dirty.)

amelius 5y ago
> Basically, if you can get grease or dirt on your clothes, it's blue collar; There are also orange-collar workers.
- openknot 5y ago
  Wikipedia entry for orange-collar workers: "Prison laborers, named for the orange jumpsuits commonly worn by inmates." [0] The article also defines pink collar workers (service workers in the working class) and purple collar workers (principally white collar workers who occasionally do blue collar tasks, like technicians and engineers; note there's no citation for this). I personally don't think the other colors mentioned in the Wikipedia are useful, since the whole idea of blue vs. white collar seems to be a metaphor of referring to manual labour to office work. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Designation_of_workers_by_collar_color https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Designation_of_workers_by_coll...
- turrican 5y ago
  What are these?
voisin 5y ago
I understand the technical distinction but in common practice it seems to be used more and more as interchangeable with knowledge workers.
- dymk 5y ago
  On this forum full of techies, perhaps, but in the more general social sphere of "America" it's understood that even menial admin work is white collar work.

Kuinox 5y ago

Exceptionally low ? 12% of the population is below 80 iq. 75 IQ is not exceptional, it's common.

chaorace 5y ago
The number increments get more significant the further from 100 you get. 75 IQ is under the fifth percentile -- definitely not common.
- patcon 5y ago
  I recognize that this is kinda subjective, but I'm a bit baffled that someone wouldn't find 1-in-20 to be "common". Though it's not homogenous, that's very conservatively the equivalent of one child in every classroom. It's millions of people, even in a small country.
  - throwawayboise 5y ago
    To me, "common" means roughly 50% or more, with less than that being some degree of "rare." 1-in-20 I would definitely call rare.
    - 7373737373 5y ago
      I once saw a website I think where histograms of each of such words were plotted, can't find it anymore though
      - kthejoker2 5y ago
        You're probably thinking of this HBR article by Andrew and Michael Maboussin https://hbr.org/2018/07/if-you-say-something-is-likely-how-likely-do-people-think-it-is https://hbr.org/2018/07/if-you-say-something-is-likely-how-l... which is an updated take on the methodology of Dick Heuer's Psychology of Intelligence Analysis https://prasadcapital.com/2018/07/03/book-summary-psychology-of-intelligence-analysis/ https://prasadcapital.com/2018/07/03/book-summary-psychology... , which itself was driven by the research into words of estimative probability by CIA legend Sherman Kent. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Words_of_estimative_probability https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Words_of_estimative_probabilit...

nine_k 5y ago

The fact that he is a white-collar worker is salient. The person is able to earn a living using the obviously highly-altered brain as the centerpiece of the work.

rbanffy 5y ago
Interesting to note the low IQ scores. It is well below average and yet still functioning and performing a useful job for society.

stefan_ 5y ago

... because you need to be smart to be a white-collar worker? Hell, that fluid pushes a little bit different, makes him a sociopath, and he'd be on track for CEO! Have you been in the workforce long, because raw intelligence has very little to do with any of the jobs I have seen.