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MakeMKV (US$60 for Windows, Mac, or Linux) can rip UHD Blu-Ray discs with the appropriate drive, removing the encryption in the process: https://www.makemkv.co
by LeoPanthera 5y ago
MakeMKV (US$60 for Windows, Mac, or Linux) can rip UHD Blu-Ray discs with the appropriate drive, removing the encryption in the process:
https://www.makemkv.com/buy/ https://www.makemkv.com/buy/
Some drives need to have their firmware flashed in order to enable ripping of UHD discs:
https://forum.makemkv.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=19113 https://forum.makemkv.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=19113
I'm not affiliated with the product other than having used it to rip my entire disc library. It can also rip DVDs and regular blu-rays.
Once ripped, they can be played back with VLC, mpv, or derivatives. (On Macs, IINA is very good.)
- shelbyKiraM 5y ago*clap* thanks for the pointer on IINA. I'm a long-time user of MPV (that's prob what I'll stick with on Windows…) it's good to have all these super useful interface improvements~
- henryackerman 5y agoThe stupid thing is that this might be illegal in some jurisdictions. With any DRM scheme you'll end up having to break the law at some point in time to consume the content you legally purchased.
- sys_64738 5y agoWhat happens if you rip out side the USA and bring those rips to the USA. Did you circumvent under DMCA?
- Mindwipe 5y agoNo, because the prohibition is on acquisition of the software. Though if you brought the software to do so with you you'd be in breach. But it's worth noting that virtually every country in the world has a prohibition on acquiring software to bypass DRM. In the UK for example it's a criminal offense with potential jail time attached to import it (i.e. download it from a foreign server) or sell it.
- pbhjpbhj 5y agoCould you cite that law please? I don't doubt it, UK copyright law in my personal opinion is overly beholden to USA (eg entertaining extradition for hosting links which are allegedly to material acquired through infringement). Format shifting à la iTunes CD rips is tortuous in the UK, AFAICS, making iTunes unlawful as it's produced in order to enable infringing behaviour.
- Mindwipe 5y agoSection 296ZB of the Copyright, Designs and Patents Act (1988) as modified by the Copyright and Related Rights Regulations (2003). iTunes isn't unlawful in the UK, as there's no prohibition on making software to format shift. It's just using it to format shift that's unlawful. But software to bypass technical protection measures is prohibited, and similar laws exist in almost all countries because having them is a requirement for WTO membership.
- Wowfunhappy 5y agoIsn’t there a DMCA exemption for instances where you need to break DRM for compatibility with your hardware?
- technothrasher 5y agoThis is what I thought as well. But looking at the latest ruling by the Copyright Office, I don't see one. Maybe I'm missing it? https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2021-10-28/pdf/2021-23311.pdf https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2021-10-28/pdf/2021-2...
- renzo88 5y agoThis is illegal in the US, which means it's rad as hell.
- LeoPanthera 5y agoIt is not necessarily illegal in the USA. It's not necessarily legal either. Pasted from Wikipedia: U.S. copyright law (Title 17 of the United States Code) generally says that making a copy of an original work, if conducted without the consent of the copyright owner, is infringement. The law makes no explicit grant or denial of a right to make a "personal use" copy of another's copyrighted content on one's own digital media and devices. For example, space shifting, by making a copy of a personally owned audio CD for transfer to an MP3 player for that person's personal use, is not explicitly allowed or forbidden. Existing copyright statutes may apply to specific acts of personal copying, as determined in cases in the civil or criminal court systems, building up a body of case law. Consumer copyright infringement cases in this area, to date, have only focused on issues related to consumer rights and the applicability of the law to the sharing of ripped files, not to the act of ripping, per se.
- bubblethink 5y agoIsn't the act of bypassing DRM itself some violation of DMCA and related laws (however unlikely any enforcement may be) ? Which is also why you can't play commercial DVDs and blu-rays out of the box on Fedora because they won't ship any code that can circumvent DRM.
- boomboomsubban 5y agoBypassing the DRM is acceptable for certain use cases, with DVD's it's OK for using clips as a critic or adding additional accessibility features. So something like makemkv is legal while in practice almost every user is breaking the law.
- wizzwizz4 5y agoI don't think that's how the law works. There's a fair use exemption for using copyrighted material, however you're still not allowed to bypass DRM to get at the data.
- RealStickman_ 5y agoI'll second the recommendation for MakeMKV. No annoying upsells, no subscriptions and you can use the officially provided beta key (valid until the end of a month, a new key gets released every month) to check it out.
- iforgotpassword 5y agoAgreed. If you want to (physically) own a movie or TV show, use MakeMKV, or just torrent/IRC/usenet it. It really seems the rights owners want you to go that route. Otherwise if you just want to watch a movie and don't care that it might not be available at a later time, use a streaming service, it's by far the most convenient.
- zerorally 5y agoTy
- unethical_ban 5y agoWhat drive is recommended? I have considered acquiring some UHD movies on physical media and would want to rip them for backup.
- knaik94 5y agoTorrenting a reencode seems reasonable but for some releases I liked buying the blu ray because my internet speed isn't great.
- washadjeffmad 5y agoThis is how I first ended up with an inexpensive disk shelf on 6.5Mbps ADSL. Similar constraints, different solutions.
- bayindirh 5y agoI use put.io. It's a web service which downloads, seeds and stores your torrents. It also converts, streams, finds subtitles for movies and similar stuff. Also allows for you to download the file if you want. Moreover, it can follow RSS feeds for automated downloads, and has plethora of other features. [0]: https://put.io https://put.io
- creamytaco 5y agoNot very wise to export your (assumed) copyright-infringing activity over to a third party that has complete records of who you are. Folks have been sued for less.
- stavros 5y agoThat looks very much like an old DVD ripper (even the site) that was a joy to use. I don't remember the name, but if MakeMKV is as good as that, it'll be great.
- Nextgrid 5y agoAnyDVD & CloneDVD?
- stavros 5y agoNo, although those were good too. I think it may have been called DVD decrypt? EDIT: DVD Decrypter! https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVD_Decrypter https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVD_Decrypter
- secondcoming 5y agoI used DVD Shrink!
- stavros 5y agoMan, everything back then looked so fast, light, and consistent...
- lpcvoid 5y agoNowadays, it would be a 100MB Electron application that needs 300MB ram and an 4 core cpu to display a single window. Progress!
- ycombinete 5y agoOne of the reasons I love using Bvckup for my backups. It has this same style of interface.
- newsclues 5y agoThe video equivalent of exact audio copy?
- flotzam 5y ago> Some drives need to have their firmware flashed in order to enable ripping of UHD discs I love their summary of what the patched firmware does: 'A LibreDrive is a mode of operation of an optical disc drive (DVD, Blu-ray or UHD) when the data on the disc are accessed directly, without any restrictions or transformations enforced by drive firmware. A LibreDrive would never refuse to read the data from the disc or declare itself “revoked”. (...) Change the optical drive embedded software in a way that the drive becomes a “primitive” device - one that just positions a laser, reads and decodes the data. Make a drive free from “policing” functionality, a drive that just passes all data from the disc to the user.' - from What is LibreDrive? at https://forum.makemkv.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=18856 https://forum.makemkv.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=18856
- antihero 5y agoHow easy would it be to use libredrive, dd and ffmpeg to rip?
- flotzam 5y agoProbably pretty hard. It's not a transparent patch to the drive's normal read routines but a parallel low-level API. Then they wrap that in their own high-level userspace API libdriveio (which you'd have to patch dd to use). And once you've pried the data out of the drive's hands you still have to decrypt it. https://forum.makemkv.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=19&p=96988 https://forum.makemkv.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=19&p=96988 https://forum.makemkv.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=24312 https://forum.makemkv.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=24312
- edude03 5y agoVery easy but my understanding is you’d end up with an unplayable disc still because you need to perform decryption to get a file ffmpeg can play. That said makemkv does work on ISOs of discs made with a libredrive
- snnn 5y agoI believe any DVD drive made in recent years won't support it. Some drives had bugs in their old firmware so that the drives can be used with makemkv, but it doesn't mean it is usual. They can fix the bugs. They can stop making problematic hardware. Even if you can find such a hardware, it might be more expensive than your CPU. Normally people won't invest much on it. And, like what SGX is providing, if the film industry really want to stop pirating, they can. Then makemkv will be a history.
- _zooted 5y agoThePirateBay is free and easier.
- johnklos 5y agoNot really. Even though you can get excellent quality h.265 encodes, it seems the MP3 generation's hearing is so impaired that compressing the hell out of audio and losing tons of audio quality is too common. What's the point of a beautiful 2500 kbps h.265 video if they're going to kill the audio quality by squashing it to 128 kbps?
- knaik94 5y agoI do appreciate that Dolby digital 5.1 has become more common as a standard release and don't require a remux download.
- iamacyborg 5y agoConsidering the size of bluray rips, let alone UHD ones, TPB downloads are usually a significant step down in terms of quality vs directly ripping a disk.
- black3r 5y agoi don't use TPB, so I don't know if they are there as well, but elsewhere on torrents you can find both full blu-ray disc copies and "remuxes", which are just directly ripped from blu-ray to mkv without any loss of audio/video quality.
- tjpnz 5y agoWith modern codecs you're unlikely to notice much difference between a 20GB download and a rip you did yourself.
- chungy 5y agoThe words of somebody that's never witnessed the quality of a UHD disc :)
- donatj 5y agoI bought a flashable drive specifically for this reason. I both love having physical releases and the convenience of a Plex server when I just want to throw something on.
- nebula8804 5y agoAnyone reading this, I'd recommend the Pioneer Drive if you can swing it. It does not support UHD decryption (yet) but the reliability is so much better than the LG drives and the other drives (which I think are just rebadged LG). I got a LG drive manufactured in June 2021 and by September it was dead. Got a second drive from a different vendor (mfg July 2021) and it also started to falter. (returned it while I still could). There are tons of complaints on the makemkv forums but it is still a popular drive for the price(if you wanna risk it).
- knaik94 5y agoMy flashed LG drive, the slim laptop case size one, had been working fine for me. I sometimes don't feel like streaming or want storage space temporarily and playback using VLC. Mine is an older manufacturing date though.
- nebula8804 5y agoAgreed. I also got the Laptop drive and the Laptop one works better than the desktop ones and supports 4K UHD, however it is slow and the Pioneer is even more reliable (again does not support 4K yet)
- TazeTSchnitzel 5y agoMakeMKV even has an integration with VLC that lets you just play Blu-ray discs without ripping them first. I don't know if that works for the UHD ones.
- knaik94 5y agoIt works well but the more annoying issue is that UHD has hdr built in and tone mapping is still very much under development. It looks fine but, for example, can't use Dolby Vision directly. To get a complete experience, you need to rip first.
- wing-_-nuts 5y agodang now that's a selling point!
- smoyer 5y agoThis is also the *secure* way to continue playing Ultra HD Blu-ray movies - run away from anyone's advice when they include the phrase "don't update Windows" (paraphrased). Haven't we learned to patch our system yet?
- tomc1985 5y agoAs an alternative, AnyDVD HD can trasparently strip the encryption off a Blu-Ray disc. I haven't tried it with any Ultra HD discs but it works extremely well for traditional Blu-Ray.
- xwolfi 5y agoWhy bother? I did the whole shebang, bought a reader, a new processor, a compatible OLED tv and everything, I could only read a UHD bluray at 30fps if I used the integrated intel card, so had to do crazy config changes to boot correctly without my nvidia, with no HDR and that worked only with an expensive PowerDVD software. So I gave up, googled rarbg and can get the same stuff in perfect quality in a few minutes. UHD killed legal "dvds" for me, it's so stupid.
- mherdeg 5y agoFor the first time in about 10 years, I recently found myself with some physical DVDs I wanted to format-shift (show the kids some old movies on an iPad). It was surprisingly hard to do the homework on the "best" way to do this on a Mac -- I ended up using MakeMKV to rip + Handbrake to encode, but it was hard to find a robust recent technical discussion of what the pros do. At one point in this process I was looking at the Internet Archive's copy of http://thelittleappfactory.com/ripit/ http://thelittleappfactory.com/ripit/ which has just quietly disappeared from the Web? It was a bizarre experience.
- LeoPanthera 5y agoFor what it's worth, MakeMKV+Handbrake is still the best way to do it.
- brian_herman 5y agoI have used this software and it is great. You don't really have to register for the software you can find the "beta/trial" key on their forum and keep on reinstalling and reusing makemkv.
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