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I'm unreasonably frustrated by the hotdog one. How is that not a sandwich?

bagacrap 5y ago
it's at best an open face sandwich
KiranRao0 5y ago
It is not based on the cube rule of food. A food can be classified by which faces of a cube the outer layer of carbs populate. In the case of a hot dog, it is a taco, since the bottom and two sides are the carb structure. https://cuberule.com/ https://cuberule.com/
- pottertheotter 5y ago
  There are a lot of inconsistencies in the examples. For example, pumpkin pie is toast, but cheesecake, deep dish pizza, and key like pie are quiche.
  - larschdk 5y ago
    Simply, the cake is a quiche, but a slice is a toast.
  - Dylan16807 5y ago
    An entire pumpkin pie or cheescake or deep dish pizza or key lime pie are all quiches. A slice of any of them is a toast. No inconsistency there. Though I prefer "pizza" to "toast".
- bee_rider 5y ago
  I like that they provide a set of examples that show why their system does not work.
  - dalmo3 5y ago
    The toast sandwich was pure genius.
junon 5y ago
Because gravity doesn't press the two sides together. Tension does. Clearly a hotdog is more like a pita or a wrap. Not a sandwich.
jabbany 5y ago
It's a wrap! Unless you think a wrap is also a sandwich? (/s)
vmception 5y ago
Its not a logic question, it is a colloquial one In the context hotdogs appear, it is around other bread meat combinations: hotdog hamburger sandwich these are distinct things, and to some they are assumeable identities where one can expect criticism for any choice, despite their overlapping feature sets as such, hotdog is not a sandwich
greggman3 5y ago
are tacos and burritos sandwiches? How about a Chinese pork bun?
- Ekaros 5y ago
  Is an unopened bun an sandwich?
bryans 5y ago
You can happily ignore anyone who says hot dogs aren't sandwiches. By all definitions, they unquestionably ARE sandwiches. The only argument against it is based on whether a hot dog bun is one piece of bread or two, except it doesn't matter, because one piece of bread (or a split roll) is still a sandwich. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sandwich https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sandwich 1a: two or more slices of bread or a split roll having a filling in between 1b: one slice of bread covered with food By the anti-sandwich lobby's logic, if you were to build a ham and cheese sandwich using one piece of bread and then folded it in the middle to make it look and function like a "traditional" double breaded sandwich, it would somehow magically no longer qualify as a sandwich -- and that's just plain absurd.
- Dylan16807 5y ago
  Do you consider tacos to be sandwiches? (Yes I think a tortilla is a valid bread for this.) > By the anti-sandwich lobby's logic, if you were to build a ham and cheese sandwich using one piece of bread and then folded it in the middle to make it look and function like a "traditional" double breaded sandwich, it would somehow magically no longer qualify as a sandwich -- and that's just plain absurd. I don't think it requires magic to say that a sub sandwich is not a true sandwich. Also those people wouldn't say you had a sandwich to start with. It's reasonable to say that open-faced sandwiches aren't true sandwiches, and I think people would agree that the folded version is either equally or more sandwichy than an open-face. The question is where the exact threshold lies. Are both sandwiches? Just the folded one? Neither? Don't get too hung up on the dictionary definition you quoted. Dictionaries are over-inclusive and include very casual language. Spiders are not actually bugs, even though people sometimes use the word that way and you can find it in a dictionary.
  - bryans 5y ago
    > I don't think it requires magic to say that a sub sandwich is not a true sandwich. It requires the most absurd magic to say that a sub is not a sandwich. It's literally everything that you call a sandwich without any differences whatsoever. It's only nicknamed a "sub" because the shape of the bread resembles a submarine. That's it. Your completely arbitrary limitation of a sandwich being two square-shaped pieces of bread simply doesn't reflect reality. > Dictionaries are over-inclusive and include very casual language. The irony is rich, given that you're trying to redefine words to have completely different meanings than the original.

it's at best an open face sandwich

It is not based on the cube rule of food. A food can be classified by which faces of a cube the outer layer of carbs populate. In the case of a hot dog, it is a taco, since the bottom and two sides are the carb structure. https://cuberule.com/ https://cuberule.com/

pottertheotter 5y ago
There are a lot of inconsistencies in the examples. For example, pumpkin pie is toast, but cheesecake, deep dish pizza, and key like pie are quiche.
- larschdk 5y ago
  Simply, the cake is a quiche, but a slice is a toast.
- Dylan16807 5y ago
  An entire pumpkin pie or cheescake or deep dish pizza or key lime pie are all quiches. A slice of any of them is a toast. No inconsistency there. Though I prefer "pizza" to "toast".
bee_rider 5y ago
I like that they provide a set of examples that show why their system does not work.
- dalmo3 5y ago
  The toast sandwich was pure genius.

junon 5y ago

Because gravity doesn't press the two sides together. Tension does. Clearly a hotdog is more like a pita or a wrap. Not a sandwich.

jabbany 5y ago

It's a wrap! Unless you think a wrap is also a sandwich? (/s)

vmception 5y ago

Its not a logic question, it is a colloquial one In the context hotdogs appear, it is around other bread meat combinations: hotdog hamburger sandwich these are distinct things, and to some they are assumeable identities where one can expect criticism for any choice, despite their overlapping feature sets as such, hotdog is not a sandwich

greggman3 5y ago

are tacos and burritos sandwiches? How about a Chinese pork bun?

Ekaros 5y ago
Is an unopened bun an sandwich?

bryans 5y ago

You can happily ignore anyone who says hot dogs aren't sandwiches. By all definitions, they unquestionably ARE sandwiches. The only argument against it is based on whether a hot dog bun is one piece of bread or two, except it doesn't matter, because one piece of bread (or a split roll) is still a sandwich. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sandwich https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sandwich 1a: two or more slices of bread or a split roll having a filling in between 1b: one slice of bread covered with food By the anti-sandwich lobby's logic, if you were to build a ham and cheese sandwich using one piece of bread and then folded it in the middle to make it look and function like a "traditional" double breaded sandwich, it would somehow magically no longer qualify as a sandwich -- and that's just plain absurd.

Dylan16807 5y ago
Do you consider tacos to be sandwiches? (Yes I think a tortilla is a valid bread for this.) > By the anti-sandwich lobby's logic, if you were to build a ham and cheese sandwich using one piece of bread and then folded it in the middle to make it look and function like a "traditional" double breaded sandwich, it would somehow magically no longer qualify as a sandwich -- and that's just plain absurd. I don't think it requires magic to say that a sub sandwich is not a true sandwich. Also those people wouldn't say you had a sandwich to start with. It's reasonable to say that open-faced sandwiches aren't true sandwiches, and I think people would agree that the folded version is either equally or more sandwichy than an open-face. The question is where the exact threshold lies. Are both sandwiches? Just the folded one? Neither? Don't get too hung up on the dictionary definition you quoted. Dictionaries are over-inclusive and include very casual language. Spiders are not actually bugs, even though people sometimes use the word that way and you can find it in a dictionary.
- bryans 5y ago
  > I don't think it requires magic to say that a sub sandwich is not a true sandwich. It requires the most absurd magic to say that a sub is not a sandwich. It's literally everything that you call a sandwich without any differences whatsoever. It's only nicknamed a "sub" because the shape of the bread resembles a submarine. That's it. Your completely arbitrary limitation of a sandwich being two square-shaped pieces of bread simply doesn't reflect reality. > Dictionaries are over-inclusive and include very casual language. The irony is rich, given that you're trying to redefine words to have completely different meanings than the original.