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Are kids not capable of carrying covid and spreading it to adults?

seibelj 5y ago
Somehow all the private schools around me have been open for in-person learning safely since the lockdowns began.
cannaceo 5y ago
Are adults forced to take similar precautions to children? I got an email this week that story time at the public library is canceled because of covid. No adult venues canceled.
- les_diabolique 5y ago
  Are you suggesting children and adults have similar behaviours and understanding of situations and behave accordingly?
  - bpodgursky 5y ago
    - dang 5y ago
      Please don't take HN threads further into flamewar hell. You can make your substantive points thoughtfully, as most users in this thread have been doing. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html Edit: you've unfortunately been making a habit of doing this. That's not cool, and we ban accounts that do it. Would you please review the site guidelines and fix this?
  - shatteredvisage 5y ago
google234123 5y ago
The science says no
apatters 5y ago
Are adults not capable of getting vaccinated and eliminating their risk of severe illness?
- Arainach 5y ago
  They are not. Vaccines reduce the chance of severe illness. They do not eliminate it, particularly with comorbidities.
  - bcrosby95 5y ago
    It's rare to be able to completely eliminate a risk. Both of the extremes in this kinda drive me batty. On one side, I know a family that was taking distance learning as a chance to travel the world with their kids, before any vaccine was available. They have caught covid 3 times now. I also know people that have resolved to never get covid. Why? Because it's covid. Any attempts to discuss things in more detail brings out comparisons to things such as the bubonic plague, measles, and drinking water you shit in.
- les_diabolique 5y ago
  You would think so, but here we are and a segment of the population still doesn't have the vaccine.
refurb 5y ago
Crazy how in other countries schools haven't been closed at all!
- les_diabolique 5y ago
  Not quite sure how this answers my question.
  - refurb 5y ago
    You're mistakenly equating covid cases with a need to shutdown schools.
ALittleLight 5y ago
Covid is contagious enough that most people are either going to get it or have had it. Why we should sacrifice children's well being to marginally delay the time at which their parents or families will be infected is beyond me. If individual families want to choose to take their kids out of school that should be their choice. It should not be the default.
- lghh 5y ago
  > Covid is contagious enough that most people are either going to get it or have had it Based on what? Also, you can get it more than once. This is a pretty bleak outlook. > Why we should sacrifice children's well being Why should we sacrifice the teacher's well being? > delay the time at which their parents or families will be infected is beyond me. Because getting sick isn't guaranteed and getting sick can land people in the hospitals and clog our healthcare system.
  - nradov 5y ago
    This article provides a good explanation of why no one will be able to avoid the virus. https://www.medpagetoday.com/opinion/vinay-prasad/94646 https://www.medpagetoday.com/opinion/vinay-prasad/94646 The CDC estimated that 44% of the US population had been infected as of September 2021. Obviously that number will be higher now. https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/burden.html https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/burd...
  - ALittleLight 5y ago
    We are now nearly in the situation where most people have had it and the virus shows no signs of abating. This is not a bleak outlook simply a realistic one. You've either had it or are going to get it. The bleak outlook is the one that says you should cower alone and apart from friends and family until you do get it. Go get vaccinated and live as before. Again, you aren't sacrificing the teacher's well being. The teacher is, anyway, most likely going to get covid. If a teacher doesn't like being exposed to children they should resign or be fired. Schools are not for the benefit of teachers but for the benefit of children. Once vaccinated you are unlikely to require hospitalization. Actually, you're unlikely to require hospitalization regardless of vaccination but especially unlikely once vaccinated. Maybe it's sensible for people to make some minor changes to "flatten the curve" but going to remote school is no minor change and it is far worse than the negligible benefits. While it's true you can catch the disease multiple times subsequent infections are less likely and less severe.
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Somehow all the private schools around me have been open for in-person learning safely since the lockdowns began.

Are adults forced to take similar precautions to children? I got an email this week that story time at the public library is canceled because of covid. No adult venues canceled.

les_diabolique 5y ago
Are you suggesting children and adults have similar behaviours and understanding of situations and behave accordingly?
- bpodgursky 5y ago
  - dang 5y ago
    Please don't take HN threads further into flamewar hell. You can make your substantive points thoughtfully, as most users in this thread have been doing. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html Edit: you've unfortunately been making a habit of doing this. That's not cool, and we ban accounts that do it. Would you please review the site guidelines and fix this?
- shatteredvisage 5y ago

google234123 5y ago

The science says no

apatters 5y ago

Are adults not capable of getting vaccinated and eliminating their risk of severe illness?

Arainach 5y ago
They are not. Vaccines reduce the chance of severe illness. They do not eliminate it, particularly with comorbidities.
- bcrosby95 5y ago
  It's rare to be able to completely eliminate a risk. Both of the extremes in this kinda drive me batty. On one side, I know a family that was taking distance learning as a chance to travel the world with their kids, before any vaccine was available. They have caught covid 3 times now. I also know people that have resolved to never get covid. Why? Because it's covid. Any attempts to discuss things in more detail brings out comparisons to things such as the bubonic plague, measles, and drinking water you shit in.
les_diabolique 5y ago
You would think so, but here we are and a segment of the population still doesn't have the vaccine.

refurb 5y ago

Crazy how in other countries schools haven't been closed at all!

les_diabolique 5y ago
Not quite sure how this answers my question.
- refurb 5y ago
  You're mistakenly equating covid cases with a need to shutdown schools.

ALittleLight 5y ago

Covid is contagious enough that most people are either going to get it or have had it. Why we should sacrifice children's well being to marginally delay the time at which their parents or families will be infected is beyond me. If individual families want to choose to take their kids out of school that should be their choice. It should not be the default.

lghh 5y ago
> Covid is contagious enough that most people are either going to get it or have had it Based on what? Also, you can get it more than once. This is a pretty bleak outlook. > Why we should sacrifice children's well being Why should we sacrifice the teacher's well being? > delay the time at which their parents or families will be infected is beyond me. Because getting sick isn't guaranteed and getting sick can land people in the hospitals and clog our healthcare system.
- nradov 5y ago
  This article provides a good explanation of why no one will be able to avoid the virus. https://www.medpagetoday.com/opinion/vinay-prasad/94646 https://www.medpagetoday.com/opinion/vinay-prasad/94646 The CDC estimated that 44% of the US population had been infected as of September 2021. Obviously that number will be higher now. https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/burden.html https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/burd...
- ALittleLight 5y ago
  We are now nearly in the situation where most people have had it and the virus shows no signs of abating. This is not a bleak outlook simply a realistic one. You've either had it or are going to get it. The bleak outlook is the one that says you should cower alone and apart from friends and family until you do get it. Go get vaccinated and live as before. Again, you aren't sacrificing the teacher's well being. The teacher is, anyway, most likely going to get covid. If a teacher doesn't like being exposed to children they should resign or be fired. Schools are not for the benefit of teachers but for the benefit of children. Once vaccinated you are unlikely to require hospitalization. Actually, you're unlikely to require hospitalization regardless of vaccination but especially unlikely once vaccinated. Maybe it's sensible for people to make some minor changes to "flatten the curve" but going to remote school is no minor change and it is far worse than the negligible benefits. While it's true you can catch the disease multiple times subsequent infections are less likely and less severe.

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