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I’m not sure what she said, but given the amount of reversals and “facts-later-questioned” concerning this virus, I’d be interested to see if she ever would hav

I’m not sure what she said, but given the amount of reversals and “facts-later-questioned” concerning this virus, I’d be interested to see if she ever would have it reinstated if she were right about the key points concerning her ban.

gjsman-1000 5y ago
I distinctly remember when discussing whether it was a lab leak would get you censored. Now, scientists consider it unlikely, but now you are allowed to discuss it.
- alwayseasy 5y ago
  No, the "censorship" tended to target those that discussed the lab leak and then retweeted hateful and anti-Asian content aside.
nojito 5y ago
She made repetitive tweets that Omicron proves that vaccines don't work.
- gjsman-1000 5y ago
  Okay, but do you think that a single person following her Twitter is going to say, “Wow, Twitter censored her because she was wrong”? Of course not. They are going to be livid and more determined in their belief. Anyone defending vaccine should be angry at Twitter for making the situation worse.
  - tshaddox 5y ago
    I don’t think the point of the ban is to convince people who saw her old tweets that she was wrong.
  - trzy 5y ago
    Not the point. The ban isn’t to change their mind, it’s to remove a source of toxic discourse on the platform. Now there will be fewer retweets and flame wars instigated by her. And it will hopefully serve as one more reason for those who feel targeted by this to seek an alternative platform.
  - kthejoker2 5y ago
    Banning works https://techcrunch.com/2017/09/11/study-finds-reddits-controversial-ban-of-its-most-toxic-subreddits-actually-worked/ https://techcrunch.com/2017/09/11/study-finds-reddits-contro...
- adventured 5y ago
  I'm 100% pro vaccine. I'd rather Twitter were destroyed for doing this than Greene were suspended. I'll happily deal with combating some misinformation, it's an opportunity that is critically important. People with anti vax beliefs don't magically stop existing just because you censor Greene; it hurts, it does not help to do that. Instead, more of them go underground, they vanish from the surface, you don't see them as much, but they're still around spreading those ideas. The notion that you can't have a debate over vaccines in the open air - eg Twitter threads, or comparable - between such sides is disgusting. What other point does Twitter serve then? An official public relations release platform for previously authorized statements and speech. And to let people know what you ate for lunch, its original glorious purpose. Twitter should be a place where I can argue against Greene's vaccine statements when she Tweets them. She provides an excellent central point of focus to distribute correct information, a honeypot for delivering information that is right. (insert retort: yeah but that doesn't work, you can't convince people; cool, so shut it all down then, civilization is over, give up now; throw them in the gulag, that's where you have to go with that logic if you believe people are permanently beyond reason)
  - phillipcarter 5y ago
    All I can say is that I wish you well in your efforts to convince antivax folks (and those who grift on that, like MTG) on taking the vaccine. Good luck.
- angelzen 5y ago
  Since you are not posting your sources, it's hard to tell what claims of Marjorie Taylor Greene you are referring to. I recently stumbled upon a site that reports on covid data from Denmark. The rate of Omicron infection in both vaccinated and unvaccinated populations >15yo is the same. This corroborates with a recent DHH post surfacing similar Denmark data. There is a distinct uncomfortable possibility that the vaccines targeting a 2 year old variant are, indeed, ineffective as a measure to limit the spread of Omicron. Unfortunately, I can't corroborate with US data because CDC is obstinate in not publishing covid data with a breakdown by date/age/vaccination status/virus variant. Based in prior variant data, it is likely the vaccines do work to prevent severe omicron cases. Feel free to clarify what is it that the vaccines work for, and which of Marjorie Taylor Greene tweets fell afoul of that. PS. This post is in no way an endorsement of Marjorie Taylor Greene political activities, of which I know very little other than her being a Republican Congresswoman. https://covid19danmark.dk/#gennembrudsinfektioner https://covid19danmark.dk/#gennembrudsinfektioner https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29765351 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29765351 https://world.hey.com/dhh/should-you-vaccinate-your-kids-16933c37 https://world.hey.com/dhh/should-you-vaccinate-your-kids-169...
  - nojito 5y ago
    I simply reiterated what Twitter shared in their statement as to why the account was banned. What's with this gish gallop style response?
bko 5y ago
I don't think they're claiming she's wrong. They're claiming her post was "misleading", but misleading to what? Presumably misleading people to believe that a public policy is wrong or ineffective.

gjsman-1000 5y ago

I distinctly remember when discussing whether it was a lab leak would get you censored. Now, scientists consider it unlikely, but now you are allowed to discuss it.

alwayseasy 5y ago
No, the "censorship" tended to target those that discussed the lab leak and then retweeted hateful and anti-Asian content aside.

nojito 5y ago

She made repetitive tweets that Omicron proves that vaccines don't work.

gjsman-1000 5y ago
Okay, but do you think that a single person following her Twitter is going to say, “Wow, Twitter censored her because she was wrong”? Of course not. They are going to be livid and more determined in their belief. Anyone defending vaccine should be angry at Twitter for making the situation worse.
- tshaddox 5y ago
  I don’t think the point of the ban is to convince people who saw her old tweets that she was wrong.
- trzy 5y ago
  Not the point. The ban isn’t to change their mind, it’s to remove a source of toxic discourse on the platform. Now there will be fewer retweets and flame wars instigated by her. And it will hopefully serve as one more reason for those who feel targeted by this to seek an alternative platform.
- kthejoker2 5y ago
  Banning works https://techcrunch.com/2017/09/11/study-finds-reddits-controversial-ban-of-its-most-toxic-subreddits-actually-worked/ https://techcrunch.com/2017/09/11/study-finds-reddits-contro...
adventured 5y ago
I'm 100% pro vaccine. I'd rather Twitter were destroyed for doing this than Greene were suspended. I'll happily deal with combating some misinformation, it's an opportunity that is critically important. People with anti vax beliefs don't magically stop existing just because you censor Greene; it hurts, it does not help to do that. Instead, more of them go underground, they vanish from the surface, you don't see them as much, but they're still around spreading those ideas. The notion that you can't have a debate over vaccines in the open air - eg Twitter threads, or comparable - between such sides is disgusting. What other point does Twitter serve then? An official public relations release platform for previously authorized statements and speech. And to let people know what you ate for lunch, its original glorious purpose. Twitter should be a place where I can argue against Greene's vaccine statements when she Tweets them. She provides an excellent central point of focus to distribute correct information, a honeypot for delivering information that is right. (insert retort: yeah but that doesn't work, you can't convince people; cool, so shut it all down then, civilization is over, give up now; throw them in the gulag, that's where you have to go with that logic if you believe people are permanently beyond reason)
- phillipcarter 5y ago
  All I can say is that I wish you well in your efforts to convince antivax folks (and those who grift on that, like MTG) on taking the vaccine. Good luck.
angelzen 5y ago
Since you are not posting your sources, it's hard to tell what claims of Marjorie Taylor Greene you are referring to. I recently stumbled upon a site that reports on covid data from Denmark. The rate of Omicron infection in both vaccinated and unvaccinated populations >15yo is the same. This corroborates with a recent DHH post surfacing similar Denmark data. There is a distinct uncomfortable possibility that the vaccines targeting a 2 year old variant are, indeed, ineffective as a measure to limit the spread of Omicron. Unfortunately, I can't corroborate with US data because CDC is obstinate in not publishing covid data with a breakdown by date/age/vaccination status/virus variant. Based in prior variant data, it is likely the vaccines do work to prevent severe omicron cases. Feel free to clarify what is it that the vaccines work for, and which of Marjorie Taylor Greene tweets fell afoul of that. PS. This post is in no way an endorsement of Marjorie Taylor Greene political activities, of which I know very little other than her being a Republican Congresswoman. https://covid19danmark.dk/#gennembrudsinfektioner https://covid19danmark.dk/#gennembrudsinfektioner https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29765351 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29765351 https://world.hey.com/dhh/should-you-vaccinate-your-kids-16933c37 https://world.hey.com/dhh/should-you-vaccinate-your-kids-169...
- nojito 5y ago
  I simply reiterated what Twitter shared in their statement as to why the account was banned. What's with this gish gallop style response?

bko 5y ago

I don't think they're claiming she's wrong. They're claiming her post was "misleading", but misleading to what? Presumably misleading people to believe that a public policy is wrong or ineffective.