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New Temperature Records for the UK

137 points by infodocket 5y ago

s_dev 5y ago
It was 16 Celcius in Ireland yesterday. I have my window wide open in the middle of winter to cool the apartment. I can appreciate climate != weather. However it is a very odd warming event.
- teh_klev 5y ago
  I had my patio doors open at midnight last night in rural Perthshire and was just wearing a t-shirt (and jeans). I thought I had "the fever", but upon checking the met forecast I was gobsmacked to see the temperature at around 15C. Yet only two days before I was scraping ice off of the car.
jacquesm 5y ago
NL as well, one record after another is broken. Today I saw some very confused wasps and bees flying around, in 15 degree Celsius weather.
- Scoundreller 5y ago
  -20C in Thunder Bay if you’re ever thinking about coming back. And that’s the high! https://www.theweathernetwork.com/ca/weather/ontario/thunder-bay https://www.theweathernetwork.com/ca/weather/ontario/thunder...
  - jacquesm 5y ago
    Ah, Thunder Bay. That is one of the nicer spots that I've visited. Lake Superior is more like an inland sea and Thunder Bay is on of the best spots on the lake. The chances of me coming back to Canada are very, very low. Another country in Europe however, especially one of the Nordics or the Baltics, that might just happen.
- hardlianotion 5y ago
  Same here in France. Chased a bumblebee out of my living room and any number of confused flies. The weather has gone from unusually deep and early snow to scenes resembling later spring. Similarly confused weather patterns in West Africa in the last few years - the regular weather pattern of my youth seems to be breaking down into something altogether less reliable and worrying.
  - jacquesm 5y ago
    It's pretty wild. People keep saying that 'climate change is happening too slow to be noticed over a human life span', but I actually think that isn't true, it is in fact very noticeable. The winters from my youth are gone and my parents thought that the ones in the 70's were mild (with one or two exceptions). Here we now have essentially 6 months of autumn that switches straight into an early summer.
    - michaelcampbell 5y ago
      > People keep saying that 'climate change is happening too slow to be noticed over a human life span', No one seriously says this, unless they're pushing their own anti-science narrative.
      - jacquesm 5y ago
        I think they mean this as in 'compared to a road accident' (or a pandemic, for that matter).
- jfk13 5y ago
  Here (in the UK) we went for a walk this afternoon, and I noticed primroses in flower... at least a couple months too early. I guess they're hoping some confused bees will come along...
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  - mytailorisrich 5y ago
    That can be a problem because there's still a high chance of frost, not least because the coldest period of winter is still ahead of us: when it's too mild and plants start to bud early they run the risk of being burnt by frost later on...
iqanq 5y ago
Given the terrible problems we are having with energy prices, I will interpret this as God laying His hands upon us :P
- OtomotO 5y ago
  To strangle us?
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- irrational 5y ago
  Why? We seem to be doing a great job of punishing ourselves.
  - DaiPlusPlus 5y ago
    > We seem to be doing a great job of punishing ourselves. We're not all Catholic
- mhh__ 5y ago
  As far as I'm aware, the Bible does instruct the faithful Christian to look after god's creation. Considering the zeal of American Christianity, this has apparently been lost on many (i.e. the cold atheists in Europe are doing a better job).
  - coolso 5y ago
    Perhaps there is a knowledge that behind every politician claiming to want to care for the environment, it means more money taken out of their pockets, among many other shady ulterior “progressive” motives. They see through the BS, in other words. Most people want to look after God’s creation. They just don’t want to get screwed over by politicians in the process, nor do they necessarily want to buy into the false prophet scientists who have been claiming the end is nigh regarding this subject for decades now (always pushing the new end further down the line, but this time it’s for real, they swear!)
esarbe 5y ago
Central Europe, 10°C - Bees and Wasps, shrubs and bushes are budding.
- Zenst 5y ago
  Which is a worry as a couple of months left of winter. Also a tendency these days for the colder/snow weather to be in the later part of winter/early spring.
  - misnome 5y ago
    There’s also stories flying around about hedgehogs coming out of hibernation early
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swarnie 5y ago
I'm starting to think these global warming chaps have a point you know....
beebeepka 5y ago
I don't have a habit of checking temperature but felt like 15 degree here on Bulgaria. Spent most of the day outside and there were all kinds of insects flying around. Guess the summer is going to suck. Either too hot or too cold.
- polotics 5y ago
  My bet is this will be the next 2003, after western Canada last year, mainland Europe may well be due for the next roast.
  - beebeepka 5y ago
    Could also be like 2005 when it snowed heavily in May, then we had never ending rain and floods during the whole summer
lordnacho 5y ago
This is good if you pay for energy in the UK. Prices have shot up recently, and there are fears that a lot of people will get surprised if the winter is chilly. Of course we've yet to see how it plays out. Friends on mine in the energy business think it could get really really bad if it's cold.
- bserge 5y ago
- dijit 5y ago
  Much in the same way that burning down your house is a comfort for those who cannot afford their gas bill?
  - jstanley 5y ago
    No, in the same way that warm weather is a comfort for those who cannot afford their gas bill.
- samwillis 5y ago
  I think you are right, there is certainly a lot of people here hoping for a very mild winter. Hopefully the relief from rising energy prices this winter doesn’t distract from the bigger picture of climate change, but we must also not be dismissive of those in need. There are so many people in the UK who have to make difficult choices each winter about heating their house or spending elsewhere. It’s estimated to be 1 in 10 households (3m people)[0]. So we can take a small amount of comfort that in the short term that this is help for them, but we must as a society address both these problems (income inequality and climate change) 0: https://amp.theguardian.com/society/2021/nov/25/one-in-10-uk-families-will-struggle-to-cover-basics-this-winter-charity-finds https://amp.theguardian.com/society/2021/nov/25/one-in-10-uk...
throwaway5752 5y ago
I see people talking about weather getting unpredictable. This was predictable, and was predicted: https://www.ipcc.ch/report/ar6/wg1/ https://www.ipcc.ch/report/ar6/wg1/. The technical summary is 160 pages and should be required reading for anyone over the age of 13: https://www.ipcc.ch/report/ar6/wg1/downloads/report/IPCC_AR6_WGI_TS.pdf https://www.ipcc.ch/report/ar6/wg1/downloads/report/IPCC_AR6.... The Paris Agreement, for all its problems, tries to keep increase below 1.5 C over pre-industrial. We are locked in for 20-30 more years of increases like this if we stop emitting net CO2 in 5 years, best case. This is the beginning of global warming, it will be getting worse. I plan on retiring from software soon to devote the rest of my life to technical and political work to keep Earth habitable for subsequent generations while retaining the knowledge and technological progress made possible from the carbon age. Too many people in software - just my experience, and definitely not limited to software - have no concept of the orders of magnitude of energy involved and unreasonable expectations of other engineering fields to solve this problem. I hope more people will join me.
- cheschire 5y ago
  I suspect people tend to mean unstable when they say unpredictable. Not that they think science is unable to see what’s happening.
- bserge 5y ago
- joebillingsley 5y ago
  I'm interested. Have you found anyone/an area who needs software developers?
- jonp888 5y ago
  I do, I just don't see any pointles in fighting a hopeless war that is already lost.
  - agilob 5y ago
    Now, that's the spirit!
breakyerself 5y ago
Record high temps outnumber record lows by 2:1. The planet is hotter than its been in 100,000 years. Co2 levels are higher than they've been in 800,000 years. 4 Hiroshima bombs per second worth of extra heat energy are being trapped in the climate system by the co2 we've emitted. The oceans are 25% more acidic because of how much of our co2 has been absorbed by the oceans. Absolute humidity has increased 7% because a warmer atmosphere can hold more moisture and warmer oceans evaporate more readily.
irthomasthomas 5y ago
It was 15C NYE and the record was 18.0C at Abergwyngregyn, Gwynedd in 1972. I am pretty happy to be honest, considering the fuel crisis, this is a blessing to some. I am not convinced that life everywhere will suddenly be terrible just because it is a little warmer. We had warm periods before and things got better. The Late Bronze Warm Period, The Roman Warm period, and the Middle Age Warm Period. https://imgr.search.brave.com/v3hRyzU6Mm1ShpkX2Z4SEYasQRtDD-ENZk_PpK0ovLY/fit/1200/1200/ce/1/aHR0cDovL3d3dy5z/dXN0YWluYWJsZW9y/ZWdvbi5jb20vcGlj/dHVyZXMvQ2VudHJh/bF9HcmVlbmxhbmRf/VGVtcGVyYXR1cmVf/MjAwMEJDJTIwX3Rv/X1ByZXNlbnQtQWxs/ZXktSGFkQ1JVVC1L/b2Jhc2hpLnBuZw https://imgr.search.brave.com/v3hRyzU6Mm1ShpkX2Z4SEYasQRtDD-... Also see global greening https://www.nasa.gov/feature/greening-of-the-earth-mitigates-surface-warming https://www.nasa.gov/feature/greening-of-the-earth-mitigates...
- verisimi 5y ago
  It could do with being a little warmer.
- polotics 5y ago
  It is not going to be a little warmer: do you know about averages? Two degree higher average temperatures means many European forests will burn and not recuperate. With four, even Ireland desertifies. Climate change is only just getting started, by the time people like you realize action is needed, it will be much too much too late. The movie "don't look up" comes to mind.
  - irthomasthomas 5y ago
    Desertification was predicted but it didn't happen. The earth has greened instead. https://www.nasa.gov/feature/greening-of-the-earth-mitigates-surface-warming https://www.nasa.gov/feature/greening-of-the-earth-mitigates...
    - nemo44x 5y ago
      But you won’t get funding saying this. You need to make your subject of study a crisis in order to secure the funding to study it further. And of course the politicians that unlock the funding would do well if your model could align with their re-election strategy.
toun 5y ago
French Brittany, was sunbathing this morning at 10:00 at 15°C on the beach, with bees flying around. These are summer temperatures, and even in summer it's usually colder than that at this time of the day. Felt completely unreal.
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nikkinana 5y ago
jmugan 5y ago
Yep, Austin just had the warmest December on record. About 12 degrees F above "normal." https://www.kvue.com/article/weather/december-2021-warmest-on-record-austin/269-33c5321d-fc57-4e50-b267-c135dbd0538c#:~:text=The%20normal%20December%20average%20temperature,span%20of%20an%20entire%20month https://www.kvue.com/article/weather/december-2021-warmest-o....
123pie123 5y ago
tongue in cheek uk weather seasons (but close to the truth) https://imgur.com/gallery/1Brt04C https://imgur.com/gallery/1Brt04C I think there should be an extra winter in there after summer begins
- NotVerstappen 5y ago
  In my childhood I remember (perhaps overly- optimistically) having distinct seasons and in particular crisp, snowy winters. The combination of climate change and moving west of the Pennines is really shit.
  - 123pie123 5y ago
    I had to live and work on the opposite sides of the pennines, the M62 whilst having lovely views over the hills, is seriously horrible to drive on in the rush hours (worse in winter) and the weather difference was very noticeable Much dryer in the east, similar difference all the way up into Scotland
wedn3sday 5y ago
An alternate reading: this is the coldest winter for the next century.
- subpixel 5y ago
  A comment that stuck with me during the summer of 2021, when heat domes baked Sweden and Seattle and California and Greece were on fire, was that it was likely the coolest summer of the next decade.
  - letitbeirie 5y ago
    Bart: “This is the hottest summer of my life…” Homer: “The hottest summer of your life so far”
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wedn3sday 5y ago
Alternative reading: this is the coldest winter in the next century.
- jacquesm 5y ago
  That has a fairly high probability of being true. And it's very scary if true.
b_emery 5y ago
For those of us used to degrees F, keep this in mind: 10 C ~= 50 F 20 C ~= 68 F 30 C ~= 86 F So 15 C is about 59 degrees F.
wazoox 5y ago
This is very menacing, more than could seem at first glance. All sort of crops could bloom much too soon, and be destroyed at the next cold event. And every summer from now on, we'll be under the menace of an extreme hot event destroying major cereal crops around the world. Global food shortage could be around the corner every year, forever. Combine that with a looming fossil fuel supply crunch, and we're on the verge of civilisational collapse, just like that.
- irthomasthomas 5y ago
  Don't worry, this is roughly the opposite of what has been observed. The growing seasons are getting longer, the earth is greening. [0] And looking back at previous warm periods it looks like things mostly got better during warm ages and nose dived during the cold. https://imgr.search.brave.com/v3hRyzU6Mm1ShpkX2Z4SEYasQRtDD-ENZk_PpK0ovLY/fit/1200/1200/ce/1/aHR0cDovL3d3dy5z/dXN0YWluYWJsZW9y/ZWdvbi5jb20vcGlj/dHVyZXMvQ2VudHJh/bF9HcmVlbmxhbmRf/VGVtcGVyYXR1cmVf/MjAwMEJDJTIwX3Rv/X1ByZXNlbnQtQWxs/ZXktSGFkQ1JVVC1L/b2Jhc2hpLnBuZw https://imgr.search.brave.com/v3hRyzU6Mm1ShpkX2Z4SEYasQRtDD-... [0] Global Greening Greening of the globe and its drivers - Nature 2016 https://www.nature.com/articles/nclimate3004 https://www.nature.com/articles/nclimate3004 "Satellite records from 1982–2009 show a persistent and widespread increase of leaf area (greening) over 25% to 50% of the global vegetated area, whereas less than 4% of the globe shows decreasing leaf area (browning). Ecosystem models suggest that CO2 fertilisation effects explain 70% of the observed greening trend, followed by nitrogen deposition (9%), climate change (8%) and land cover change (4%)." Elevated CO2 as a driver of global dryland greening - Nature 2016 https://www.nature.com/articles/srep20716 https://www.nature.com/articles/srep20716 "Recent regional scale analyses using satellite based vegetation indices such as the Normalized Difference Vegetation Index (NDVI), have found extensive areas of “greening” in dryland areas of the Mediterranean, the Sahel, the Middle East and Northern China, as well as greening trends in Mongolia and South America. More recently, a global synthesis from 1982-2007 showed an overall “greening-up” trend over the Sahel belt, Mediterranean basin, China-Mongolia region and the drylands of South America." Global Greening Is Firm, Drivers Are Mixed - Harvard 2014 http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2015AGUFM.B31A0515K http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2015AGUFM.B31A0515K "Evidence for global greening is converging, asserting an increase in CO2 uptake and biomass of the terrestrial biosphere. Global greening refers to global net increases in the area of green canopy, stocks of carbon, and the duration of the growing season. The growing seasons in general have prolonged while the stock of biomass carbon has increased and the rate of deforestation has decelerated. Evidence for these trends comes from firm empirical data obtained through atmospheric CO2 observations, remote sensing, forest inventories and land use statistics." Rise in CO2 has 'greened Planet Earth' http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-36130346 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-36130346 Prof Judith Curry, the former chair of Earth and atmospheric sciences at the Georgia Institute of Technology, added: "It is inappropriate to dismiss the arguments of the so-called contrarians, since their disagreement with the consensus reflects conflicts of values and a preference for the empirical (i.e. what has been observed) versus the hypothetical (i.e. what is projected from climate models)

137 points by infodocket 5y ago

It was 16 Celcius in Ireland yesterday. I have my window wide open in the middle of winter to cool the apartment. I can appreciate climate != weather. However it is a very odd warming event.

teh_klev 5y ago
I had my patio doors open at midnight last night in rural Perthshire and was just wearing a t-shirt (and jeans). I thought I had "the fever", but upon checking the met forecast I was gobsmacked to see the temperature at around 15C. Yet only two days before I was scraping ice off of the car.

jacquesm 5y ago

NL as well, one record after another is broken. Today I saw some very confused wasps and bees flying around, in 15 degree Celsius weather.

Scoundreller 5y ago
-20C in Thunder Bay if you’re ever thinking about coming back. And that’s the high! https://www.theweathernetwork.com/ca/weather/ontario/thunder-bay https://www.theweathernetwork.com/ca/weather/ontario/thunder...
- jacquesm 5y ago
  Ah, Thunder Bay. That is one of the nicer spots that I've visited. Lake Superior is more like an inland sea and Thunder Bay is on of the best spots on the lake. The chances of me coming back to Canada are very, very low. Another country in Europe however, especially one of the Nordics or the Baltics, that might just happen.
hardlianotion 5y ago
Same here in France. Chased a bumblebee out of my living room and any number of confused flies. The weather has gone from unusually deep and early snow to scenes resembling later spring. Similarly confused weather patterns in West Africa in the last few years - the regular weather pattern of my youth seems to be breaking down into something altogether less reliable and worrying.
- jacquesm 5y ago
  It's pretty wild. People keep saying that 'climate change is happening too slow to be noticed over a human life span', but I actually think that isn't true, it is in fact very noticeable. The winters from my youth are gone and my parents thought that the ones in the 70's were mild (with one or two exceptions). Here we now have essentially 6 months of autumn that switches straight into an early summer.
  - michaelcampbell 5y ago
    > People keep saying that 'climate change is happening too slow to be noticed over a human life span', No one seriously says this, unless they're pushing their own anti-science narrative.
    - jacquesm 5y ago
      I think they mean this as in 'compared to a road accident' (or a pandemic, for that matter).
jfk13 5y ago
Here (in the UK) we went for a walk this afternoon, and I noticed primroses in flower... at least a couple months too early. I guess they're hoping some confused bees will come along...
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- mytailorisrich 5y ago
  That can be a problem because there's still a high chance of frost, not least because the coldest period of winter is still ahead of us: when it's too mild and plants start to bud early they run the risk of being burnt by frost later on...

iqanq 5y ago

Given the terrible problems we are having with energy prices, I will interpret this as God laying His hands upon us :P

OtomotO 5y ago
To strangle us?
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irrational 5y ago
Why? We seem to be doing a great job of punishing ourselves.
- DaiPlusPlus 5y ago
  > We seem to be doing a great job of punishing ourselves. We're not all Catholic
mhh__ 5y ago
As far as I'm aware, the Bible does instruct the faithful Christian to look after god's creation. Considering the zeal of American Christianity, this has apparently been lost on many (i.e. the cold atheists in Europe are doing a better job).
- coolso 5y ago
  Perhaps there is a knowledge that behind every politician claiming to want to care for the environment, it means more money taken out of their pockets, among many other shady ulterior “progressive” motives. They see through the BS, in other words. Most people want to look after God’s creation. They just don’t want to get screwed over by politicians in the process, nor do they necessarily want to buy into the false prophet scientists who have been claiming the end is nigh regarding this subject for decades now (always pushing the new end further down the line, but this time it’s for real, they swear!)

esarbe 5y ago

Central Europe, 10°C - Bees and Wasps, shrubs and bushes are budding.

Zenst 5y ago
Which is a worry as a couple of months left of winter. Also a tendency these days for the colder/snow weather to be in the later part of winter/early spring.
- misnome 5y ago
  There’s also stories flying around about hedgehogs coming out of hibernation early

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swarnie 5y ago

I'm starting to think these global warming chaps have a point you know....

beebeepka 5y ago

I don't have a habit of checking temperature but felt like 15 degree here on Bulgaria. Spent most of the day outside and there were all kinds of insects flying around. Guess the summer is going to suck. Either too hot or too cold.

polotics 5y ago
My bet is this will be the next 2003, after western Canada last year, mainland Europe may well be due for the next roast.
- beebeepka 5y ago
  Could also be like 2005 when it snowed heavily in May, then we had never ending rain and floods during the whole summer

lordnacho 5y ago

This is good if you pay for energy in the UK. Prices have shot up recently, and there are fears that a lot of people will get surprised if the winter is chilly. Of course we've yet to see how it plays out. Friends on mine in the energy business think it could get really really bad if it's cold.

bserge 5y ago
dijit 5y ago
Much in the same way that burning down your house is a comfort for those who cannot afford their gas bill?
- jstanley 5y ago
  No, in the same way that warm weather is a comfort for those who cannot afford their gas bill.
samwillis 5y ago
I think you are right, there is certainly a lot of people here hoping for a very mild winter. Hopefully the relief from rising energy prices this winter doesn’t distract from the bigger picture of climate change, but we must also not be dismissive of those in need. There are so many people in the UK who have to make difficult choices each winter about heating their house or spending elsewhere. It’s estimated to be 1 in 10 households (3m people)[0]. So we can take a small amount of comfort that in the short term that this is help for them, but we must as a society address both these problems (income inequality and climate change) 0: https://amp.theguardian.com/society/2021/nov/25/one-in-10-uk-families-will-struggle-to-cover-basics-this-winter-charity-finds https://amp.theguardian.com/society/2021/nov/25/one-in-10-uk...

throwaway5752 5y ago

I see people talking about weather getting unpredictable. This was predictable, and was predicted: https://www.ipcc.ch/report/ar6/wg1/ https://www.ipcc.ch/report/ar6/wg1/. The technical summary is 160 pages and should be required reading for anyone over the age of 13: https://www.ipcc.ch/report/ar6/wg1/downloads/report/IPCC_AR6_WGI_TS.pdf https://www.ipcc.ch/report/ar6/wg1/downloads/report/IPCC_AR6.... The Paris Agreement, for all its problems, tries to keep increase below 1.5 C over pre-industrial. We are locked in for 20-30 more years of increases like this if we stop emitting net CO2 in 5 years, best case. This is the beginning of global warming, it will be getting worse. I plan on retiring from software soon to devote the rest of my life to technical and political work to keep Earth habitable for subsequent generations while retaining the knowledge and technological progress made possible from the carbon age. Too many people in software - just my experience, and definitely not limited to software - have no concept of the orders of magnitude of energy involved and unreasonable expectations of other engineering fields to solve this problem. I hope more people will join me.

cheschire 5y ago
I suspect people tend to mean unstable when they say unpredictable. Not that they think science is unable to see what’s happening.
bserge 5y ago
joebillingsley 5y ago
I'm interested. Have you found anyone/an area who needs software developers?
jonp888 5y ago
I do, I just don't see any pointles in fighting a hopeless war that is already lost.
- agilob 5y ago
  Now, that's the spirit!

breakyerself 5y ago

Record high temps outnumber record lows by 2:1. The planet is hotter than its been in 100,000 years. Co2 levels are higher than they've been in 800,000 years. 4 Hiroshima bombs per second worth of extra heat energy are being trapped in the climate system by the co2 we've emitted. The oceans are 25% more acidic because of how much of our co2 has been absorbed by the oceans. Absolute humidity has increased 7% because a warmer atmosphere can hold more moisture and warmer oceans evaporate more readily.

irthomasthomas 5y ago

It was 15C NYE and the record was 18.0C at Abergwyngregyn, Gwynedd in 1972. I am pretty happy to be honest, considering the fuel crisis, this is a blessing to some. I am not convinced that life everywhere will suddenly be terrible just because it is a little warmer. We had warm periods before and things got better. The Late Bronze Warm Period, The Roman Warm period, and the Middle Age Warm Period. https://imgr.search.brave.com/v3hRyzU6Mm1ShpkX2Z4SEYasQRtDD-ENZk_PpK0ovLY/fit/1200/1200/ce/1/aHR0cDovL3d3dy5z/dXN0YWluYWJsZW9y/ZWdvbi5jb20vcGlj/dHVyZXMvQ2VudHJh/bF9HcmVlbmxhbmRf/VGVtcGVyYXR1cmVf/MjAwMEJDJTIwX3Rv/X1ByZXNlbnQtQWxs/ZXktSGFkQ1JVVC1L/b2Jhc2hpLnBuZw https://imgr.search.brave.com/v3hRyzU6Mm1ShpkX2Z4SEYasQRtDD-... Also see global greening https://www.nasa.gov/feature/greening-of-the-earth-mitigates-surface-warming https://www.nasa.gov/feature/greening-of-the-earth-mitigates...

verisimi 5y ago
It could do with being a little warmer.
polotics 5y ago
It is not going to be a little warmer: do you know about averages? Two degree higher average temperatures means many European forests will burn and not recuperate. With four, even Ireland desertifies. Climate change is only just getting started, by the time people like you realize action is needed, it will be much too much too late. The movie "don't look up" comes to mind.
- irthomasthomas 5y ago
  Desertification was predicted but it didn't happen. The earth has greened instead. https://www.nasa.gov/feature/greening-of-the-earth-mitigates-surface-warming https://www.nasa.gov/feature/greening-of-the-earth-mitigates...
  - nemo44x 5y ago
    But you won’t get funding saying this. You need to make your subject of study a crisis in order to secure the funding to study it further. And of course the politicians that unlock the funding would do well if your model could align with their re-election strategy.

toun 5y ago

French Brittany, was sunbathing this morning at 10:00 at 15°C on the beach, with bees flying around. These are summer temperatures, and even in summer it's usually colder than that at this time of the day. Felt completely unreal.

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nikkinana 5y ago

jmugan 5y ago

Yep, Austin just had the warmest December on record. About 12 degrees F above "normal." https://www.kvue.com/article/weather/december-2021-warmest-on-record-austin/269-33c5321d-fc57-4e50-b267-c135dbd0538c#:~:text=The%20normal%20December%20average%20temperature,span%20of%20an%20entire%20month https://www.kvue.com/article/weather/december-2021-warmest-o....

123pie123 5y ago

tongue in cheek uk weather seasons (but close to the truth) https://imgur.com/gallery/1Brt04C https://imgur.com/gallery/1Brt04C I think there should be an extra winter in there after summer begins

NotVerstappen 5y ago
In my childhood I remember (perhaps overly- optimistically) having distinct seasons and in particular crisp, snowy winters. The combination of climate change and moving west of the Pennines is really shit.
- 123pie123 5y ago
  I had to live and work on the opposite sides of the pennines, the M62 whilst having lovely views over the hills, is seriously horrible to drive on in the rush hours (worse in winter) and the weather difference was very noticeable Much dryer in the east, similar difference all the way up into Scotland

wedn3sday 5y ago

An alternate reading: this is the coldest winter for the next century.

subpixel 5y ago
A comment that stuck with me during the summer of 2021, when heat domes baked Sweden and Seattle and California and Greece were on fire, was that it was likely the coolest summer of the next decade.
- letitbeirie 5y ago
  Bart: “This is the hottest summer of my life…” Homer: “The hottest summer of your life so far”

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wedn3sday 5y ago

Alternative reading: this is the coldest winter in the next century.

jacquesm 5y ago
That has a fairly high probability of being true. And it's very scary if true.

b_emery 5y ago

For those of us used to degrees F, keep this in mind: 10 C ~= 50 F 20 C ~= 68 F 30 C ~= 86 F So 15 C is about 59 degrees F.

wazoox 5y ago

This is very menacing, more than could seem at first glance. All sort of crops could bloom much too soon, and be destroyed at the next cold event. And every summer from now on, we'll be under the menace of an extreme hot event destroying major cereal crops around the world. Global food shortage could be around the corner every year, forever. Combine that with a looming fossil fuel supply crunch, and we're on the verge of civilisational collapse, just like that.

irthomasthomas 5y ago
Don't worry, this is roughly the opposite of what has been observed. The growing seasons are getting longer, the earth is greening. [0] And looking back at previous warm periods it looks like things mostly got better during warm ages and nose dived during the cold. https://imgr.search.brave.com/v3hRyzU6Mm1ShpkX2Z4SEYasQRtDD-ENZk_PpK0ovLY/fit/1200/1200/ce/1/aHR0cDovL3d3dy5z/dXN0YWluYWJsZW9y/ZWdvbi5jb20vcGlj/dHVyZXMvQ2VudHJh/bF9HcmVlbmxhbmRf/VGVtcGVyYXR1cmVf/MjAwMEJDJTIwX3Rv/X1ByZXNlbnQtQWxs/ZXktSGFkQ1JVVC1L/b2Jhc2hpLnBuZw https://imgr.search.brave.com/v3hRyzU6Mm1ShpkX2Z4SEYasQRtDD-... [0] Global Greening Greening of the globe and its drivers - Nature 2016 https://www.nature.com/articles/nclimate3004 https://www.nature.com/articles/nclimate3004 "Satellite records from 1982–2009 show a persistent and widespread increase of leaf area (greening) over 25% to 50% of the global vegetated area, whereas less than 4% of the globe shows decreasing leaf area (browning). Ecosystem models suggest that CO2 fertilisation effects explain 70% of the observed greening trend, followed by nitrogen deposition (9%), climate change (8%) and land cover change (4%)." Elevated CO2 as a driver of global dryland greening - Nature 2016 https://www.nature.com/articles/srep20716 https://www.nature.com/articles/srep20716 "Recent regional scale analyses using satellite based vegetation indices such as the Normalized Difference Vegetation Index (NDVI), have found extensive areas of “greening” in dryland areas of the Mediterranean, the Sahel, the Middle East and Northern China, as well as greening trends in Mongolia and South America. More recently, a global synthesis from 1982-2007 showed an overall “greening-up” trend over the Sahel belt, Mediterranean basin, China-Mongolia region and the drylands of South America." Global Greening Is Firm, Drivers Are Mixed - Harvard 2014 http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2015AGUFM.B31A0515K http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2015AGUFM.B31A0515K "Evidence for global greening is converging, asserting an increase in CO2 uptake and biomass of the terrestrial biosphere. Global greening refers to global net increases in the area of green canopy, stocks of carbon, and the duration of the growing season. The growing seasons in general have prolonged while the stock of biomass carbon has increased and the rate of deforestation has decelerated. Evidence for these trends comes from firm empirical data obtained through atmospheric CO2 observations, remote sensing, forest inventories and land use statistics." Rise in CO2 has 'greened Planet Earth' http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-36130346 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-36130346 Prof Judith Curry, the former chair of Earth and atmospheric sciences at the Georgia Institute of Technology, added: "It is inappropriate to dismiss the arguments of the so-called contrarians, since their disagreement with the consensus reflects conflicts of values and a preference for the empirical (i.e. what has been observed) versus the hypothetical (i.e. what is projected from climate models)