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It's true that culture can make you poor, by the means of setting your mindset. I've seen people in the towns of South America (i.e. not the main cities) whose

It's true that culture can make you poor, by the means of setting your mindset. I've seen people in the towns of South America (i.e. not the main cities) whose family traditions set them on a path of "wait to be given" instead of "go and get it" mentality. Of course, this never materializes, and the person lives their life impoverished. Money is such a taboo in these families, that you end up thinking it's dirty until it's engraved in your subconscious. You don't even think about these exact words anymore. If money is not within your first 3 priorities at life and you happen to have victim mindset, be ready to starve. Also, if you're a teenage girl, depending on your culture, your family seems to be peer pressuring you to be a mother, because that's the only source of life meaning they know. Breaking such a mold will take a toll on your family acceptance, for which you'll need to grow a thick skin.

netizen-936824 5y ago
So what's the life meaning they should chase? Money? Human greed seems to center around money and causes tons of issues in society, maybe those families have the right sort of idea thinking of it as dirty
- ivanmontillam 5y ago
  That's not what I said. However, money as a tool should be well-balanced into your priorities as a human participating into this society. Not the 1st thing, but perhaps the 2nd or 3rd at the very least. Money is the most liquid value exchange tool we have. It's not to be hoarded I agree, but to be effectively used towards one's benefits which in turn, by the forces of altruism also serves the society as a whole. Would you use barter, then?
- educaysean 5y ago
  Money can be a dirty thing if we assign wrong values to it. This is the same with relationships, religion, fame, and even family. Thinking that money is inherently dirty isn't any more right than thinking money will solve all problems.
AlexTWithBeard 5y ago
> if you're a teenage girl, depending on your culture, your family seems to be peer pressuring you to be a mother Ironically, societies that do not steer girls to parenthood are subject to extinction. I'm not saying it's good or bad. It's just the law of nature.
- krapp 5y ago
  >Ironically, societies that do not steer girls to parenthood are subject to extinction. Which societies have gone extinct due to this?
  - ivanmontillam 5y ago
    I've not seen societies going down for this, but it's easy to see a well-positioned families have one child and financially poor families have 5 or more children. Source: mere observation.
    - drdec 5y ago
      You should extrapolate that out a couple of hundred years and see what happens. Might make a good movie.
      - ivanmontillam 5y ago
        It's already made: "Soylent Green" (1973)
  - AlexTWithBeard 5y ago
    I'm not aware of such societies: the whole idea of women not being destined for childbearing is relatively new. Some countries are firmly on the course though: https://www.scb.se/en/About-us/news-and-press-releases/2020-saw-the-lowest-population-growth-in-15-years/ https://www.scb.se/en/About-us/news-and-press-releases/2020-...
    - antupis 5y ago
jokoon 5y ago
The culture of money can also be a taboo in politics. Money is a necessary tool and be well managed, but it should not be a priority.
- AussieWog93 5y ago
  >Money is a necessary tool and be well managed, but it should not be a priority. I have to disagree with you there. Money shouldn't be #1 priority, of course, but it's definitely up there. Allowing your kids to experience poverty because you're unwilling to provide for them is a form of negligence.
  - jokoon 5y ago
    We can disagree, it's okay
  - baq 5y ago
    it's fine as long as you teach your kids that 'stop being poor' is not an option for poor people.
    - AussieWog93 5y ago
      It absolutely is, though. I'm not saying it's easy to go from rags to riches, but the only barriers stopping someone working their way up from the bottom 10% to middle class[1] are in their head[2]. I've spent most of my adult life living in lower socio-economic areas. Far too many people shoot themselves in the foot and blame the system for me to buy the whole "the poor are trapped" argument. [1] At least in Australia, or other countries with similar opportunities. [2] Sometimes what's "in their head" can be severe mental illness or substance abuse issues. I'm not denying this is trivial to overcome, but I have seen it.
olalonde 5y ago
It's a common mentality in Quebec too and often attributed to our catholic heritage. Having money was for a long time seen as "taboo" and immoral.

netizen-936824 5y ago

So what's the life meaning they should chase? Money? Human greed seems to center around money and causes tons of issues in society, maybe those families have the right sort of idea thinking of it as dirty

ivanmontillam 5y ago
That's not what I said. However, money as a tool should be well-balanced into your priorities as a human participating into this society. Not the 1st thing, but perhaps the 2nd or 3rd at the very least. Money is the most liquid value exchange tool we have. It's not to be hoarded I agree, but to be effectively used towards one's benefits which in turn, by the forces of altruism also serves the society as a whole. Would you use barter, then?
educaysean 5y ago
Money can be a dirty thing if we assign wrong values to it. This is the same with relationships, religion, fame, and even family. Thinking that money is inherently dirty isn't any more right than thinking money will solve all problems.

AlexTWithBeard 5y ago

> if you're a teenage girl, depending on your culture, your family seems to be peer pressuring you to be a mother Ironically, societies that do not steer girls to parenthood are subject to extinction. I'm not saying it's good or bad. It's just the law of nature.

krapp 5y ago
>Ironically, societies that do not steer girls to parenthood are subject to extinction. Which societies have gone extinct due to this?
- ivanmontillam 5y ago
  I've not seen societies going down for this, but it's easy to see a well-positioned families have one child and financially poor families have 5 or more children. Source: mere observation.
  - drdec 5y ago
    You should extrapolate that out a couple of hundred years and see what happens. Might make a good movie.
    - ivanmontillam 5y ago
      It's already made: "Soylent Green" (1973)
- AlexTWithBeard 5y ago
  I'm not aware of such societies: the whole idea of women not being destined for childbearing is relatively new. Some countries are firmly on the course though: https://www.scb.se/en/About-us/news-and-press-releases/2020-saw-the-lowest-population-growth-in-15-years/ https://www.scb.se/en/About-us/news-and-press-releases/2020-...
  - antupis 5y ago

jokoon 5y ago

The culture of money can also be a taboo in politics. Money is a necessary tool and be well managed, but it should not be a priority.

AussieWog93 5y ago
>Money is a necessary tool and be well managed, but it should not be a priority. I have to disagree with you there. Money shouldn't be #1 priority, of course, but it's definitely up there. Allowing your kids to experience poverty because you're unwilling to provide for them is a form of negligence.
- jokoon 5y ago
  We can disagree, it's okay
- baq 5y ago
  it's fine as long as you teach your kids that 'stop being poor' is not an option for poor people.
  - AussieWog93 5y ago
    It absolutely is, though. I'm not saying it's easy to go from rags to riches, but the only barriers stopping someone working their way up from the bottom 10% to middle class[1] are in their head[2]. I've spent most of my adult life living in lower socio-economic areas. Far too many people shoot themselves in the foot and blame the system for me to buy the whole "the poor are trapped" argument. [1] At least in Australia, or other countries with similar opportunities. [2] Sometimes what's "in their head" can be severe mental illness or substance abuse issues. I'm not denying this is trivial to overcome, but I have seen it.

olalonde 5y ago

It's a common mentality in Quebec too and often attributed to our catholic heritage. Having money was for a long time seen as "taboo" and immoral.