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Tesla Light Show xLights Guide
- sprite 5y agoReading the title I thought it would be something like Audi's Matrix Lights: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDJi240E_ZA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDJi240E_ZA
- josephcsible 5y agoIt does a little bit of that too. This video makes that more visible: https://www.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/comments/rnk10o/tesla_holiday_update_light_show/ https://www.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/comments/rnk10o/tesla_h...
- lastofthemojito 5y ago>Supported Vehicles > Model S (2021+) > Model X (2021+) > Model 3 > Model Y Someone didn't get the memo from Elon that proper Teslexicographical sorting is S, 3, X, Y.
- winternett 5y agoThere's a workaround... Just manually flip the high beams, shift through drive modes, vigorously alternate turn indicators, and pump your brakes furiously.
- MaxDPS 5y agoThat’s is a hilarious visual lmao, I want to see someone try that now.
- mciancia 5y agoFixed now xD
- devnulll 5y agoThe PR for the fix is here: https://github.com/teslamotors/light-show/pull/3/files https://github.com/teslamotors/light-show/pull/3/files Amusing. :)
- ximeng 5y agohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfucQM07tGQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfucQM07tGQ here's the demo in order: "S3XY Light Show"
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- temporalparts 5y agoHere's a random marketing video from Tesla showing off the lights: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfucQM07tGQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfucQM07tGQ
- bromuro 5y agoIsn’t this stuff a bit creepy? I feel I don’t have the right mindset to even understand why is this a thing. I dream a future eithiut cars.
- atonse 5y agoWhat exactly creeps you out about this? It seems like a perfectly good amount of fun for everyone involved. The people making it. The owners and their friends and families. I can't wait to show this to my family tomorrow night.
- cscurmudgeon 5y agoI dream a future without constant complaining about cars.
- anchpop 5y agoHow exactly would people who live in rural areas get around without cars?
- bhauer 5y agoNow we just need a marketplace/forum for sharing custom .fseq files.
- toomuchtodo 5y agoA GitHub repo? awesome- type list [1]. [1] https://github.com/sindresorhus/awesome https://github.com/sindresorhus/awesome
- juanriaza 5y agohttp://teslalight.show http://teslalight.show
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- pmorici 5y agoThat is the official Tesla GitHub you are supposed to make your own code to plug in
- Illniyar 5y agoThat's the problem. You really should not have your car manufacturer suggesting it's okay to put some random guy's USB stick in your car. If it was just some guy making a hack, that'll be awesome ,but since it's official it inherently implies it's safe to do it. Even if Tesla intended it to be only for self use.
- RL_Quine 5y agoI mean, of all things this is pretty tame, the car otherwise includes a web browser which contains parser for every single file type you can imagine. https://github.com/FalconChristmas/fpp/blob/master/docs/FSEQ_Sequence_File_Format.txt https://github.com/FalconChristmas/fpp/blob/master/docs/FSEQ... This is the format being used by the system, which is not new and appears to be part of a maintained open source project.
- bdcravens 5y agoYou could say the same thing about running random bash scripts on your computer, since it too has a browser.
- tailspin2019 5y agoJust wait until USB drives with “custom Tesla light shows” start turning up on eBay! “we have super convenience for you pleasure, simply you plug into car and agree security waning messaage on screen for custom lite show fun for you and friends!!!”
- erulabs 5y agoI mean, it is called Hacker news. Not to be flippant, but if you want trusted, known, secure, official, warranty-backed behavior, you might go read like, CNET or something instead?
- yellow_lead 5y agoThis seems like a lot of work for a marketing stunt
- judge2020 5y agoIt's been a thing for a while on the X, they've just opened it up to running custom scripts from a USB. I'm sure it's generated thousands of sales for them at this point. The X light show: https://youtu.be/-jyPkg0yXzM?t=6 https://youtu.be/-jyPkg0yXzM?t=6
- winternett 5y agoPeople have been doing that with Honda Civics for decades... Now if they put all that energy into build quality and making sure that auto pilot doesn't kill anyone, we'd have something impressive... :/
- intellix 5y agoI find it ridiculous that something negative about a Tesla gets downvoted and essentially hidden
- winternett 5y agoIt's okay, instead of running TV commercials, Tesla hires people to brigade negative and humorous commentary, they've been doing it for a long time now, but here's evidence that backs up my claim, they really learned that light trick from people with modified Civics... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRgu7_tKzi0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRgu7_tKzi0
- enchiridion 5y agoAll cars kill people. Tesla never claimed that their autopilot wouldn’t kill people. They have claimed it’s much safer than a human driving, and it is. Your snark is why you got downvoted, not a Tesla conspiracy. Also some people independently modifying their cars is much different than an official open source tool, but I’m sure you realized the difference. With that being said, the civic thing is cool. Next time try a constructive comment and I’m sure you’ll have a more positive response.
- Gys 5y agoNo video :-(
- solarkraft 5y agoHere's a video of the pre-loaded light show on the Model X: https://youtu.be/Xg_0NRi-OxE https://youtu.be/Xg_0NRi-OxE
- zaroth 5y agoAmazing to read through that repo and then come to realize that’s not some reverse engineered hacker project, but actually a trillion dollar car company publishing that on their own GitHub page. Very cool.
- e40 5y agoThis sort of proves they are the hacker car company. There were definitely features before that screamed it (frequent over-the-air updates), but this seals the deal. EDIT: and the README.md on that page is better than 99% of open source projects I've looked at.
- the_pwner224 5y agoYet the firmware is locked down and they aggressively pursue and punish people who try to control their own cars... they may be the hacker car company, but overall they are very anti-hacker.
- cwilkes 5y agoCan this be a safety issue? I’d rather not have a 4k pound hunk of metal flying at me by someone that just wanted to try something out in a cars firmware.
- entropea 5y agoWhat's the difference between that and say, changing your brake rotors and brake pads? There's a level of danger there if it's not a professional doing it.
- judge2020 5y agoIn either case the person doing the modification would be found at fault by police / insurance, but with software it isn't so clear cut - how do you know whether or not the car is hacked? Often, the collision will become a national news story, prompting Tesla to perform a multi-week investigation to see if anything in the car was modified, all while they've already lost because news media had already blamed Tesla.
- comeonseriously 5y agoIs this legal? Seems a great way to distract other drivers.
- corndoge 5y agoI can think of a bunch of scenarios where that concern doesn't apply, and so can you.
- comeonseriously 5y agoOf course, but I am positive plenty of "look at me" types will drive around with it[0]. And I'm sure you know that, too. [0] If possible. I don't see where they explicitly say you can't.
- Faaak 5y agoThe light show doesn't engage while driving, so no.
- jedberg 5y agoIt only works when the car is stopped and the driver is outside.
- fnord77 5y agothis seems like an RCE waiting to happen
- aaomidi 5y agoProbably CE, not sure how this opens the door to an RCE.
- bayindirh 5y agoIt can open the doors alright it seems.
- Dunedan 5y agoDoesn't running the light show require plugging in a USB device, which in turn already requires open doors?
- bayindirh 5y agoActually yes, so it already needs open doors, can open other doors, but both are literal. I’m not sure opening these doors lead to opening the other, proverbial door to CE/RCE realms. That may need some more magic.
- kwhitefoot 5y agoMy 2015 Model S 70D is not supported :-(
- gfodor 5y agoLol all the negative replies here really drives home the “hacker” spirit in “hacker news”
- lostlogin 5y agoIf Ford made the lights on some cars flash, would it be a mega corp trying to go viral, or the hacker spirit alive and well? I like it, the the cynical angle has some merit.
- gfodor 5y agoThere is an awesome GitHub repo with lots of cool stuff to hack on for Christmas on millions of electric cars. This is about as hacker worthy as it gets.
- potatochup 5y agoIs it not possible for an individual engineer within Ford to have some creativity? To hack on something they weren't supposed to? Not every output from a company is top-down, corporate-overload, profit maximizing.
- akira2501 5y agoIt's parsimonious of me, but "hacker" includes the idea of "pushing hardware into uses not intended by the manufacturer." This is an API that's being straight-up handed to you by the manufacturer, a manufacturer that historically has had a challenged relationship with the various hacker communities that have formed around their products.
- potatochup 5y agoDo you really think this was originally a planned feature by Tesla? That some cynical marketing manager sat down ans though "if we do this we'll get X impressions leading to Y new sales, lets allocate 0.7FTE engineers to the task"? I very much doubt the design requirement for the Model X include a specification for "muat be able to produce Christmas shows". This sure looks like some engineer had a spurt of creativity, which qualifies to "hacking" to me.
- gamblor956 5y agoNote to Tesla owners: as this modifies the functionality of the headlamps and rear lights, your car is not street legal at night while using this code and you will get ticketed if you use this while driving.
- easton 5y agoI’m guessing the prompt to get out of the car means it won’t go while the show is running.
- jedberg 5y agoIt only works when the car is stopped and the driver is outside.
- gamblor956 5y agoThat's actually false. It starts when the car is stopped but the driver is not required to exit the vehicle to get it to start. There are videos of people running this program while they remain in their Teslas.
- judge2020 5y agoIt stops if you shift gears out of park.
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- unbanned 5y agoThis is not very cool. This is a tremendous waste of resource and yet more stuff that is added to the Tesla ecosystem which inevitably will go wrong.
- groone 5y agoWaste of resources is how other car companies get attention of potential customers.
- mensetmanusman 5y agoAdding some joy to the world is not necessary a waste of resources.
- hutzlibu 5y agoI very much agree, but I still would like to add, that not everyone enjoys light pollution ...
- MattRix 5y agowhat does light pollution have to do with any of this?
- hutzlibu 5y agoBlinking lights are a joy for many on christmas, for others, it is merely annoying light pollution.
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- shepherdjerred 5y agoWhat percentage of the world’s light pollution do you suppose will come from this feature?
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- petarb 5y agoWould love to see what people come up with
- la6471 5y agoDon’t do it while driving
- zaroth 5y agoWhat?
- edoceo 5y agoIt means: Don't code while driving. For safety.
- qbasic_forever 5y agoI think they mean don't play a light show while driving. You need things like blinkers, tail lights, etc. to function as intended for safety reasons. Many places have strict laws about exactly what kinds of lights can and can't be on a car in motion.
- brianwawok 5y agoDoesn’t work while driving. GP was trying to make a Reddit like snark comment due to other stories about games being allowed while driving.
- edoceo 5y agoWell, that's less funny. I was thinking of that auto-pilot feature in Tesla. Which gives one time to code.
- simondotau 5y agoYou can't.
- vmception 5y agoWould love to see a video or animated gif example!
- upbeat_general 5y agoAm I the only one that finds this incredibly scary? Sticking a USB drive into the car so that the primary computer can parse some file and then send some commands over (what I assume is) the CAN bus? If you can send arbitrary messages over the CAN bus, I’m guessing you can do some serious damage, and even with precautions about what the parsing process can do, that’s still…very scary.
- brianwawok 5y agoYou probably wouldn’t enjoy owning a Tesla if that is how you operate. Which is fine, but not for who this repo is for. Did you know you can start a Tesla from a phone and someone can drive it away with no key?
- throwaway894345 5y agoNot arbitrary messages and anyway can’t you send arbitrary messages over a CAN bus in an ordinary vehicle? Do most automotive manufacturers implement some kind of authentication of messages these days?
- upbeat_general 5y agoArbitrary if the sending process is compromised through a parsing exploit of some sort. I’m not sure about CAN message authentication but it’d be much easier to convince someone to plug in a USB for lights/music than it’d be to plug into a diagnostic port making it an easier target.
- throwaway894345 5y agoOkay, I didn’t realize we were assuming an exploit in the parser which allows for arbitrary message sending. When I would write CAN logic we didn’t do any sort of authentication. And I know parsers have historically been an attack vector but I don’t understand how people write parsers that are exploitable for arbitrary CAN message sending.
- Geee 5y agoThis is the built-in light show: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfucQM07tGQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfucQM07tGQ
- Animats 5y ago"The trunk may open during the show"? Can you bounce the car up and down using the active suspension? Lowriders would go for that.
- sydthrowaway 5y agoWhat colours are available?
- kevindeasis 5y agoCurious if this has any effect on warranty, since theres always been different comments on tesla warranty. ie: even something like wrapping your tesla can affect your warranty, is what a tesla employee told me
- wumpus 5y agoIf you wrap your car with a shitty wrap, and it damages your paint, do you expect the manufacturer to fix it for free?
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- dang 5y agoPlease don't do that here, regardless of how annoying another comment was or you feel it was. I've redacted the name and killed the comment. Please don't do it again.
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- sylwester 5y agoDo I see correctly from the software that the car is using a WS2811 LED controller for the lights? Or is this just for a simulation?