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> Don't get me started on how other users sharing their screens changes MY window layout I share your rage. Zoom is garbage, though I hear Teams is a close sec

> Don't get me started on how other users sharing their screens changes MY window layout I share your rage. Zoom is garbage, though I hear Teams is a close second. I know people hate on Google now, but Meet works fine in a browser with no fuss.

delecti 5y ago
Depending on who the meeting is with, at work I use Zoom, Teams, and WebEx. Teams is so much better than the other two that I can barely think of any complaints about it (note that Zoom is itself also a huge leap better than WebEx). The only one that comes to mind is that it doesn't play nice with Bluetooth devices.
bearcobra 5y ago
So interesting how different people's expierences are. Every time I've used Meet it feels like my system is trying to mine crypto and I find some thing I can do in Zoom that works 25% worse. At least we can all agree that we're glad it's not WebEx
lima 5y ago
And the AI-based noise cancellation that comes with Meet is incredible. It gets completely rid of even the worst mechanism keyboard noises without affecting speech quality at all, which no other solution seems to be able to do. Significant remote office quality of life improvement :-)
- phreack 5y ago
  I use Discord for remote work and it has something called Krisp noise cancelling that works as incredibly, if you're interested in other clients.
  - copperx 5y ago
    Krisp is garbage compared to Nvidia's free Voice RTX algorithm or Google Meet's. You also have to pay for it.
- eightysixfour 5y ago
  If you are on Windows and have a recent nvidia gpu, their "Broadcast" app is phenomenal at this. Their noise cancellation hides my treadmill sounds and clicky keyboard while I remain clear and, as a bonus, the background blur actually looks like real bokeh which seems to make people think I'm running a much higher end setup than I am.
  - lima 5y ago
    No such thing for Linux :( I'd love to use it with Zoom. The big benefit of Meet is it works anywhere, even phones, since it happens server side.
eyelidlessness 5y ago
Meet is by far the best UX of the bunch, but it’s a hell of a resource hog. Amusingly less so in Safari than Chrome, but even so it still turns my 16” MBP into a space heater.
- smallerfish 5y ago
  Funny, zoom's a terrible resource hog for me (running the client via flatpak). It opens an incredibly high number of files and processes. Google meet is just a browser tab. (Oh, plus zoom don't support screenshare in kwin-wayland yet, although I can't blame them for that.)
  - eyelidlessness 5y ago
    I mean don’t get me wrong, Zoom isn’t exactly ascetic on macOS either! I think Meet is just at the mercy of the browser on desktop.
brandonmenc 5y ago
> though I hear Teams is a close second UI polish aside, Teams + Office + Outlook was the best experience I have ever had at work. Now I'm forced to use a mishmash of Zoom, Slack, and Google, and the friction between all of them is just maddening.
mavelikara 5y ago
> but Meet works fine in a browser with no fuss. Not on Firefox for me, lately. The last few times someone invited me to one, I had to switch to Chrome.
- DangitBobby 5y ago
  It mostly works for me in Firefox but the screen sharing experience is degraded and I pretty much have to use Chrome if I don't want someome to tell me "your screen isn't updating anymore." It is definitely my preferred meeting app though. You just give someone a link; no install, no fuss, no muss.
  - JoshTriplett 5y ago
    > It is definitely my preferred meeting app though. You just give someone a link; no install, no fuss, no muss. I like Jitsi for that same reason: any meet.jit.si link is a meeting, just make one up or let the site do it for you. Nothing needed but a browser.
    - jamjamjamjamjam 5y ago
      I had an interview on jitsi, my face was inversed and it put me off big time. I couldnt find a way to hide my picture too. It was the opposite of what I’m used to seeing in a mirror
      - JoshTriplett 5y ago
        The defaults, as far as I can tell, do work like a mirror. There's a "flip" option on the "..." menu, if you want to invert that. And there's a "hide self view" option, as well as an arrow to hide the small version in the corner.
marpstar 5y ago
I use Teams in the browser to take calls as a guest with clients who use Teams. I've never had an issue.

delecti 5y ago

Depending on who the meeting is with, at work I use Zoom, Teams, and WebEx. Teams is so much better than the other two that I can barely think of any complaints about it (note that Zoom is itself also a huge leap better than WebEx). The only one that comes to mind is that it doesn't play nice with Bluetooth devices.

bearcobra 5y ago

So interesting how different people's expierences are. Every time I've used Meet it feels like my system is trying to mine crypto and I find some thing I can do in Zoom that works 25% worse. At least we can all agree that we're glad it's not WebEx

lima 5y ago

And the AI-based noise cancellation that comes with Meet is incredible. It gets completely rid of even the worst mechanism keyboard noises without affecting speech quality at all, which no other solution seems to be able to do. Significant remote office quality of life improvement :-)

phreack 5y ago
I use Discord for remote work and it has something called Krisp noise cancelling that works as incredibly, if you're interested in other clients.
- copperx 5y ago
  Krisp is garbage compared to Nvidia's free Voice RTX algorithm or Google Meet's. You also have to pay for it.
eightysixfour 5y ago
If you are on Windows and have a recent nvidia gpu, their "Broadcast" app is phenomenal at this. Their noise cancellation hides my treadmill sounds and clicky keyboard while I remain clear and, as a bonus, the background blur actually looks like real bokeh which seems to make people think I'm running a much higher end setup than I am.
- lima 5y ago
  No such thing for Linux :( I'd love to use it with Zoom. The big benefit of Meet is it works anywhere, even phones, since it happens server side.

eyelidlessness 5y ago

Meet is by far the best UX of the bunch, but it’s a hell of a resource hog. Amusingly less so in Safari than Chrome, but even so it still turns my 16” MBP into a space heater.

smallerfish 5y ago
Funny, zoom's a terrible resource hog for me (running the client via flatpak). It opens an incredibly high number of files and processes. Google meet is just a browser tab. (Oh, plus zoom don't support screenshare in kwin-wayland yet, although I can't blame them for that.)
- eyelidlessness 5y ago
  I mean don’t get me wrong, Zoom isn’t exactly ascetic on macOS either! I think Meet is just at the mercy of the browser on desktop.

brandonmenc 5y ago

> though I hear Teams is a close second UI polish aside, Teams + Office + Outlook was the best experience I have ever had at work. Now I'm forced to use a mishmash of Zoom, Slack, and Google, and the friction between all of them is just maddening.

mavelikara 5y ago

> but Meet works fine in a browser with no fuss. Not on Firefox for me, lately. The last few times someone invited me to one, I had to switch to Chrome.

DangitBobby 5y ago
It mostly works for me in Firefox but the screen sharing experience is degraded and I pretty much have to use Chrome if I don't want someome to tell me "your screen isn't updating anymore." It is definitely my preferred meeting app though. You just give someone a link; no install, no fuss, no muss.
- JoshTriplett 5y ago
  > It is definitely my preferred meeting app though. You just give someone a link; no install, no fuss, no muss. I like Jitsi for that same reason: any meet.jit.si link is a meeting, just make one up or let the site do it for you. Nothing needed but a browser.
  - jamjamjamjamjam 5y ago
    I had an interview on jitsi, my face was inversed and it put me off big time. I couldnt find a way to hide my picture too. It was the opposite of what I’m used to seeing in a mirror
    - JoshTriplett 5y ago
      The defaults, as far as I can tell, do work like a mirror. There's a "flip" option on the "..." menu, if you want to invert that. And there's a "hide self view" option, as well as an arrow to hide the small version in the corner.

marpstar 5y ago

I use Teams in the browser to take calls as a guest with clients who use Teams. I've never had an issue.