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Anti-Vaxxers Are Terrified the Government Will ‘Enforce’ a Vaccine for Covid (2020)

9 points by hncurious 5y ago

tboyd47 5y ago
The date of publication for this article (Feb. 2020) is highly relevant.
- trompetenaccoun 5y ago
  Another "conspiracy theory" that turned out true.
Bostonian 5y ago
In some countries, such as Austria the unvaccinated have been deprived of their civil liberties -- "locked down". You can think vaccines have some protective ability but oppose coerced vaccination. Does that make you an "anti-vaxxer"?
- jjgreen 5y ago
  According to Merriam-Webster, it does: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/anti-vaxxer https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/anti-vaxxer
  - peteradio 5y ago
    Interesting then how quickly the label of vaccine on an experimental drug can skew how the whole world ends up labeling you.
  - finite_jest 5y ago
    Merriam-Webster, the Orwellian dictionary which changed the definition of "sexual preference" just after Amy Coney Barrett used it in her SCOTUS appointment hearings? [1][2] [1] Snopes: Did Merriam-Webster Update Its Entry on ‘Sexual Preference’ After Barrett Hearing? https://archive.ph/dFEIk https://archive.ph/dFEIk [2] Of course, they say only changed it merely "after" she used it, not "because" of it. But come on...
    - finite_jest 5y ago
      Just for the sake of geeking out, here are some definitions from other dictionaries I could find: Macmillan [1]: someone who believes that vaccinations are harmful to human health and so refuses to vaccinate their children against childhood diseases Lexico (Oxford) [2]: A person who is opposed to vaccination. Cambridge [3]: someone who does not agree with vaccinating people (= giving them injections to prevent disease) and spreads and encourages opinions against vaccines Wikitionary [4]: A person who opposes vaccination, as for its purported dangerous effects. Dictionary.com [5]: a person who distrusts or is against vaccination, especially a parent who refuses to have a young child vaccinated. American Heritage [6] and Longman [7]: It seems that they do not have an entry. Collins also doesn't have an entry, but apparently there was a suggestion for adding it in 2015. [8] [1]: https://www.macmillandictionary.com/dictionary/british/anti-vaxxer https://www.macmillandictionary.com/dictionary/british/anti-... [2]: https://www.lexico.com/en/definition/anti-vaxxer https://www.lexico.com/en/definition/anti-vaxxer [3]: https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/antivaxxer https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/antivaxx... [4]: https://en.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=anti-vaxxer&oldid=64898506 https://en.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=anti-vaxxer&oldi... [5]: https://www.dictionary.com/browse/antivaxxer https://www.dictionary.com/browse/antivaxxer [6]: https://www.ahdictionary.com/word/search.html?q=anti-vaxxer https://www.ahdictionary.com/word/search.html?q=anti-vaxxer [7]: https://www.ldoceonline.com/spellcheck/english/?q=anti-vaxxer https://www.ldoceonline.com/spellcheck/english/?q=anti-vaxxe... [8]: https://www.collinsdictionary.com/submission/15399/Anti-Vaxxer https://www.collinsdictionary.com/submission/15399/Anti-Vaxx...
    - lioeters 5y ago
      Merriam-Webster also changed the definition of "vaccine". Jan 18th, 2021: https://web.archive.org/web/20210118193104/https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/vaccine https://web.archive.org/web/20210118193104/https://www.merri... > a preparation of killed microorganisms, living attenuated organisms, or living fully virulent organisms that is administered to produce or artificially increase immunity to a particular disease Now: > a preparation that is administered (as by injection) to stimulate the body's immune response against a specific infectious agent or disease
  - hncurious 5y ago
    Definition sponsored by Pfizer™
- dekhn 5y ago
  yep
  - sharemywin 5y ago
    It's not like the industry has a stellar reputation for putting the publics interest ahead of profits. Oxycodone, $700 EpiPen. How do we know vaccines aren't addictive. almost every person I've seen once they've had one they go back for more and more.
    - dekhn 5y ago
      I didn't address that. I just said if you oppose mandatory vaccines, you are classified as "antivax". It may even turn out that the folks opposing mandatory vaccines were in fact acting in the morally correct manner (if for some reason it does turn out there is a systemic risk introduced by the vaccine that greatly exceeds the risks it reduces), although that is both unlikely to occurr, and unlikely to be vindicating. Implying vaccines are addictive is either trolling, ignorance, or willful stupidity. Please come up with better, more informed kinds of industry hate.
      - sharemywin 5y ago
        humor/trolling. sorry.
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nradov 5y ago
I encourage everyone eligible to get vaccinated (most anti-vaxxers are irrational), but coercive mandates aren't justified. "No I don't think it should be mandatory, I wouldn't demand it be mandatory." -President (elect) Joe Biden, 4 Dec. 2020 https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-joe-biden-no-vaccines-mandatory-december-2020-1627774 https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-joe-biden-no-vaccines-ma...
- 650 5y ago
  Lies don't exist in this post modern society. Simply changing decisions as the science changes and we get a deeper understanding of the situation. /s

9 points by hncurious 5y ago

tboyd47 5y ago

The date of publication for this article (Feb. 2020) is highly relevant.

trompetenaccoun 5y ago
Another "conspiracy theory" that turned out true.

Bostonian 5y ago

In some countries, such as Austria the unvaccinated have been deprived of their civil liberties -- "locked down". You can think vaccines have some protective ability but oppose coerced vaccination. Does that make you an "anti-vaxxer"?

jjgreen 5y ago
According to Merriam-Webster, it does: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/anti-vaxxer https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/anti-vaxxer
- peteradio 5y ago
  Interesting then how quickly the label of vaccine on an experimental drug can skew how the whole world ends up labeling you.
- finite_jest 5y ago
  Merriam-Webster, the Orwellian dictionary which changed the definition of "sexual preference" just after Amy Coney Barrett used it in her SCOTUS appointment hearings? [1][2] [1] Snopes: Did Merriam-Webster Update Its Entry on ‘Sexual Preference’ After Barrett Hearing? https://archive.ph/dFEIk https://archive.ph/dFEIk [2] Of course, they say only changed it merely "after" she used it, not "because" of it. But come on...
  - finite_jest 5y ago
    Just for the sake of geeking out, here are some definitions from other dictionaries I could find: Macmillan [1]: someone who believes that vaccinations are harmful to human health and so refuses to vaccinate their children against childhood diseases Lexico (Oxford) [2]: A person who is opposed to vaccination. Cambridge [3]: someone who does not agree with vaccinating people (= giving them injections to prevent disease) and spreads and encourages opinions against vaccines Wikitionary [4]: A person who opposes vaccination, as for its purported dangerous effects. Dictionary.com [5]: a person who distrusts or is against vaccination, especially a parent who refuses to have a young child vaccinated. American Heritage [6] and Longman [7]: It seems that they do not have an entry. Collins also doesn't have an entry, but apparently there was a suggestion for adding it in 2015. [8] [1]: https://www.macmillandictionary.com/dictionary/british/anti-vaxxer https://www.macmillandictionary.com/dictionary/british/anti-... [2]: https://www.lexico.com/en/definition/anti-vaxxer https://www.lexico.com/en/definition/anti-vaxxer [3]: https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/antivaxxer https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/antivaxx... [4]: https://en.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=anti-vaxxer&oldid=64898506 https://en.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=anti-vaxxer&oldi... [5]: https://www.dictionary.com/browse/antivaxxer https://www.dictionary.com/browse/antivaxxer [6]: https://www.ahdictionary.com/word/search.html?q=anti-vaxxer https://www.ahdictionary.com/word/search.html?q=anti-vaxxer [7]: https://www.ldoceonline.com/spellcheck/english/?q=anti-vaxxer https://www.ldoceonline.com/spellcheck/english/?q=anti-vaxxe... [8]: https://www.collinsdictionary.com/submission/15399/Anti-Vaxxer https://www.collinsdictionary.com/submission/15399/Anti-Vaxx...
  - lioeters 5y ago
    Merriam-Webster also changed the definition of "vaccine". Jan 18th, 2021: https://web.archive.org/web/20210118193104/https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/vaccine https://web.archive.org/web/20210118193104/https://www.merri... > a preparation of killed microorganisms, living attenuated organisms, or living fully virulent organisms that is administered to produce or artificially increase immunity to a particular disease Now: > a preparation that is administered (as by injection) to stimulate the body's immune response against a specific infectious agent or disease
- hncurious 5y ago
  Definition sponsored by Pfizer™
dekhn 5y ago
yep
- sharemywin 5y ago
  It's not like the industry has a stellar reputation for putting the publics interest ahead of profits. Oxycodone, $700 EpiPen. How do we know vaccines aren't addictive. almost every person I've seen once they've had one they go back for more and more.
  - dekhn 5y ago
    I didn't address that. I just said if you oppose mandatory vaccines, you are classified as "antivax". It may even turn out that the folks opposing mandatory vaccines were in fact acting in the morally correct manner (if for some reason it does turn out there is a systemic risk introduced by the vaccine that greatly exceeds the risks it reduces), although that is both unlikely to occurr, and unlikely to be vindicating. Implying vaccines are addictive is either trolling, ignorance, or willful stupidity. Please come up with better, more informed kinds of industry hate.
    - sharemywin 5y ago
      humor/trolling. sorry.

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nradov 5y ago

I encourage everyone eligible to get vaccinated (most anti-vaxxers are irrational), but coercive mandates aren't justified. "No I don't think it should be mandatory, I wouldn't demand it be mandatory." -President (elect) Joe Biden, 4 Dec. 2020 https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-joe-biden-no-vaccines-mandatory-december-2020-1627774 https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-joe-biden-no-vaccines-ma...

650 5y ago
Lies don't exist in this post modern society. Simply changing decisions as the science changes and we get a deeper understanding of the situation. /s