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DeSantis proposes a new civilian military force in Florida that he would control

4 points by Victerius 5y ago

slater 5y ago
vaguely reminds me of praetorian guards. they always worked out well, didn't they? /s
- krapp 5y ago
  The Constitution prefers to call them a "well regulated Militia." I don't understand why everyone is so concerned, this is exactly how the Founding Fathers intended America to work, is it not?
raxxorrax 5y ago
Defense industry is looking for new customers. Heard they have warlord week.
AnimalMuppet 5y ago
While this makes me very nervous, and I question the motives... we already have things like the state police, which are independent of the FBI. And the stated purpose is for emergencies like hurricanes (and pandemics). Well, if you were Florida, would you want to be dependent on federal response to a hurricane? (Look at the federal response to the last several major hurricanes before answering.) And if you want a different response to Covid than the federal strategy, when the feds seem determined to try to force their approach down everybody's throat, then you may need something different for that, too. (Whether that's the right response is a separate question.)
RoyTyrell 5y ago
Maybe I'm being paranoid but he claims to want a civilian force independent of the federal government, or as he says "not encumbered by the federal government" because he wants full control over them for his own purposes. What makes me even more nervous is how many proud boys and oath keepers would apply - and what if that's who makes up the majority or all of the ranks? What happens if he want to use them during the next election at polling places? Again, maybe I'm being paranoid, but this reeks of fascism...
- monkeybutton 5y ago
  Considering how he had police raid a data scientist over covid, I wouldn't say your paranoia is completely unfounded. Also the attempted suppression of academics testifying in a case recently..
- echoradio 5y ago
  You’re not wrong. If DeSantis wants a guard under his control, he’ll get it. The state legislature and courts are blood red, so there wouldn’t even be a check on the powers he possesses over such an entity. Florida has gone mad. (I know. I live here.)
nradov 5y ago
CNN seems to be a little confused. A State Guard like what we've had for many years in California is literally a military force. There's no such thing as a "civilian military" force. State Guard personnel are subject to the Uniform Code of Military Justice.

4 points by Victerius 5y ago

slater 5y ago

vaguely reminds me of praetorian guards. they always worked out well, didn't they? /s

krapp 5y ago
The Constitution prefers to call them a "well regulated Militia." I don't understand why everyone is so concerned, this is exactly how the Founding Fathers intended America to work, is it not?

raxxorrax 5y ago

Defense industry is looking for new customers. Heard they have warlord week.

AnimalMuppet 5y ago

While this makes me very nervous, and I question the motives... we already have things like the state police, which are independent of the FBI. And the stated purpose is for emergencies like hurricanes (and pandemics). Well, if you were Florida, would you want to be dependent on federal response to a hurricane? (Look at the federal response to the last several major hurricanes before answering.) And if you want a different response to Covid than the federal strategy, when the feds seem determined to try to force their approach down everybody's throat, then you may need something different for that, too. (Whether that's the right response is a separate question.)

RoyTyrell 5y ago

Maybe I'm being paranoid but he claims to want a civilian force independent of the federal government, or as he says "not encumbered by the federal government" because he wants full control over them for his own purposes. What makes me even more nervous is how many proud boys and oath keepers would apply - and what if that's who makes up the majority or all of the ranks? What happens if he want to use them during the next election at polling places? Again, maybe I'm being paranoid, but this reeks of fascism...

monkeybutton 5y ago
Considering how he had police raid a data scientist over covid, I wouldn't say your paranoia is completely unfounded. Also the attempted suppression of academics testifying in a case recently..
echoradio 5y ago
You’re not wrong. If DeSantis wants a guard under his control, he’ll get it. The state legislature and courts are blood red, so there wouldn’t even be a check on the powers he possesses over such an entity. Florida has gone mad. (I know. I live here.)

nradov 5y ago

CNN seems to be a little confused. A State Guard like what we've had for many years in California is literally a military force. There's no such thing as a "civilian military" force. State Guard personnel are subject to the Uniform Code of Military Justice.