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Twitter thread from a vaccine developer: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1464222680731820043.html https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1464222680731820043.html

Twitter thread from a vaccine developer: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1464222680731820043.html https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1464222680731820043.html A lot of speculation still, but it's not all bad so far.

sour-taste 5y ago
What an atrocious ad filled useless site. Original thread here: https://twitter.com/sailorrooscout/status/1464222680731820043 https://twitter.com/sailorrooscout/status/146422268073182004...
- malepoon 5y ago
  Thanks. At some point Twitter itself didn't let you read threads without logging in, but it looks like they changed that...
nostromo 5y ago
This image really puts it in context: https://images.app.goo.gl/13amCWF8aJ8q2eZAA https://images.app.goo.gl/13amCWF8aJ8q2eZAA The red portion of the graph on the far right is the new variant.
- tigershark 5y ago
  It started from an extremely low base. And extrapolating that curve is completely wrong as you can see from today numbers. 2.8k compared to yesterday 2.4K. It’s obviously still early to know anything conclusive but the relatively small increase today is a very good sign. We’ll know something more next week.
  - dillondoyle 5y ago
    https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/extrapolating.png https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/extrapolating.png
- sharken 5y ago
  To further put things into perspective, here the daily number of infections have gone from a few hundred up to 5.000. And this was before Omicron was known.
reindeer76 5y ago
>vaccine developer >Chair of ...Maryland's Newest Anthropomorphic Convention! Not sure how I feel about this. Are many vaccine developers also furries?
- azeirah 5y ago
  I'd imagine many people in power have various hobbies you'd consider odd if you knew about them. (nevermind fetishes, oh my god!)
  - jacquesm 5y ago
    Never mind religion, oh your god!
    - PicassoCTs 5y ago
      Fetish, religion and bears, oh my!
      - jachee 5y ago
        “Oh Myyyyyy” —George Takei
- mdni007 5y ago
  And he's a scientist but believes in horoscopes. I don't think I've seen someone living a more hypocritical lifestyle
  - PicassoCTs 5y ago
    https://webapp1.dlib.indiana.edu/newton/project/about.do https://webapp1.dlib.indiana.edu/newton/project/about.do Its actually pretty common to venture outside the box in every regard, if you have the ability to venture outside the box.
    - ASalazarMX 5y ago
koheripbal 5y ago
His argument is fallacious. He's saying that since there all other variants we're susceptible to the vaccine, it's unlikely that this one is. ...and goes on to list the high number of different markers the vaccines target. Unfortunately, vaccines largely target the spike proteins, and sequencing of omicron is demonstrating that every single protein marker on the spike is changed. Vaccines will likely have a very small effect on this variant. There are also two other mutations of concern that have never been seen together that each increase binding to ACE2 for cell entry. This all needs to be formally confirmed, but this is probably BAD.
- dnautics 5y ago
  We also don't know what the mortality rate is. Suppose it has 100% vaccine escape but 0% mortality. Would it be "BAD"?
  - WithinReason 5y ago
    I think a 0% mortality strain displacing delta would be an extremely good outcome. One way pandemics stop is the virus mutating to harmlessness.
    - gandutraveler 5y ago
      That is exactly what I thought of too. So far the symptoms appear to be very mild and this could be a good way to scale immunity
      - sharken 5y ago
        The media is extremely focused on the number of infected and how infectious a new variant is. Somehow the low number of new hospitalizations is not newsworthy. Here in Denmark the hospitalizations have been steady at around 45% of the numbers we had when there was no vaccine. It's also 45% of the numbers we had in 2017/2018 with the flu back then. But that fact is not being used much to put things into perspective.
- 5y ago

sour-taste 5y ago

What an atrocious ad filled useless site. Original thread here: https://twitter.com/sailorrooscout/status/1464222680731820043 https://twitter.com/sailorrooscout/status/146422268073182004...

malepoon 5y ago
Thanks. At some point Twitter itself didn't let you read threads without logging in, but it looks like they changed that...

nostromo 5y ago

This image really puts it in context: https://images.app.goo.gl/13amCWF8aJ8q2eZAA https://images.app.goo.gl/13amCWF8aJ8q2eZAA The red portion of the graph on the far right is the new variant.

tigershark 5y ago
It started from an extremely low base. And extrapolating that curve is completely wrong as you can see from today numbers. 2.8k compared to yesterday 2.4K. It’s obviously still early to know anything conclusive but the relatively small increase today is a very good sign. We’ll know something more next week.
- dillondoyle 5y ago
  https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/extrapolating.png https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/extrapolating.png
sharken 5y ago
To further put things into perspective, here the daily number of infections have gone from a few hundred up to 5.000. And this was before Omicron was known.

reindeer76 5y ago

>vaccine developer >Chair of ...Maryland's Newest Anthropomorphic Convention! Not sure how I feel about this. Are many vaccine developers also furries?

azeirah 5y ago
I'd imagine many people in power have various hobbies you'd consider odd if you knew about them. (nevermind fetishes, oh my god!)
- jacquesm 5y ago
  Never mind religion, oh your god!
  - PicassoCTs 5y ago
    Fetish, religion and bears, oh my!
    - jachee 5y ago
      “Oh Myyyyyy” —George Takei
mdni007 5y ago
And he's a scientist but believes in horoscopes. I don't think I've seen someone living a more hypocritical lifestyle
- PicassoCTs 5y ago
  https://webapp1.dlib.indiana.edu/newton/project/about.do https://webapp1.dlib.indiana.edu/newton/project/about.do Its actually pretty common to venture outside the box in every regard, if you have the ability to venture outside the box.
  - ASalazarMX 5y ago

koheripbal 5y ago

His argument is fallacious. He's saying that since there all other variants we're susceptible to the vaccine, it's unlikely that this one is. ...and goes on to list the high number of different markers the vaccines target. Unfortunately, vaccines largely target the spike proteins, and sequencing of omicron is demonstrating that every single protein marker on the spike is changed. Vaccines will likely have a very small effect on this variant. There are also two other mutations of concern that have never been seen together that each increase binding to ACE2 for cell entry. This all needs to be formally confirmed, but this is probably BAD.

dnautics 5y ago
We also don't know what the mortality rate is. Suppose it has 100% vaccine escape but 0% mortality. Would it be "BAD"?
- WithinReason 5y ago
  I think a 0% mortality strain displacing delta would be an extremely good outcome. One way pandemics stop is the virus mutating to harmlessness.
  - gandutraveler 5y ago
    That is exactly what I thought of too. So far the symptoms appear to be very mild and this could be a good way to scale immunity
    - sharken 5y ago
      The media is extremely focused on the number of infected and how infectious a new variant is. Somehow the low number of new hospitalizations is not newsworthy. Here in Denmark the hospitalizations have been steady at around 45% of the numbers we had when there was no vaccine. It's also 45% of the numbers we had in 2017/2018 with the flu back then. But that fact is not being used much to put things into perspective.
5y ago