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It would be a shame if thousands of people forked the listed repos and gists…

by auslegung 5y ago

sodality2 5y ago
They're all taken down already. Forks are a̶u̶t̶o̶m̶a̶t̶i̶c̶a̶l̶l̶y̶ manually enumerated by the DMCA'er and removed
- deleted 5y ago
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- jacquesm 5y ago
  There's one really good reason why you don't want centralized source code control handed off to some US corporation.
  - ekianjo 5y ago
    You don't need to put "US" there, government/corporation overreach is a thing in every country.
    - matheusmoreira 5y ago
      Most countries couldn't care less about imaginary US property. The US forces them to care via trade agreements.
      - elzbardico 5y ago
        Indeed, but they DO care about THEIR imaginary property, and because of that they usually don't need to be forced to enter those trade agreements as you seem to believe.
      - marcosdumay 5y ago
        Most countries start to care very quickly after the US calls them and discuss matters. Any centralization is fragile. Github is more fragile than what is possible, but there is little point on improving that.
  - charcircuit 5y ago
    Git is decentralized. You can download a repo from anyone else who has it provided they expose those files to the internet.
    - jacquesm 5y ago
      Obviously. But that doesn't mean that you know where those other people are without some central place to communicate that, say a 'git hub'. There is a reason Github was served with these DMCA notices: it's a very effective choke point.
- Waterluvian 5y ago
  I know this is a silly hypothetical but say I forked it and then gutted the fork and built my own unrelated project in the repo. GitHub would delete my project that contains zero offending material?
  - detaro 5y ago
    yes. (afaik github forks of a repo really all point to the same repo internally)
    - idealmedtech 5y ago
      This is only true if you use the fork button. You can easily create a new repo, clone the old repo, and push to the new repo. GitHub will not show a fork relationship between the two.
      - detaro 5y ago
        true, I assumed that from the question, because otherwise it wouldn't be a fork in any way if the history has been deleted.
        charcircuit 5y ago
        I think he just means to create the repo like normal and push your fork there as opposed to creating a fork using the fork button.
        idealmedtech 5y ago
        Even if the history is exactly the same, GitHub only tracks forks made through the fork button. A true git fork (eg anonymous clone, push to brand new repo, preserving all commit history) is not tracked.
        detaro 5y ago
        ... yes, that's what you already said?
- smitop 5y ago
  GitHub's takedown notice template says otherwise: "Have you searched for any forks of the allegedly infringing files or repositories? Each fork is a distinct repository and must be identified separately if you believe it is infringing and wish to have it taken down."
- matheusmoreira 5y ago
  > Forks are automatically removed Not from my computer.

It would be a shame if thousands of people forked the listed repos and gists…

sodality2 5y ago

They're all taken down already. Forks are a̶u̶t̶o̶m̶a̶t̶i̶c̶a̶l̶l̶y̶ manually enumerated by the DMCA'er and removed

deleted 5y ago
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jacquesm 5y ago
There's one really good reason why you don't want centralized source code control handed off to some US corporation.
- ekianjo 5y ago
  You don't need to put "US" there, government/corporation overreach is a thing in every country.
  - matheusmoreira 5y ago
    Most countries couldn't care less about imaginary US property. The US forces them to care via trade agreements.
    - elzbardico 5y ago
      Indeed, but they DO care about THEIR imaginary property, and because of that they usually don't need to be forced to enter those trade agreements as you seem to believe.
    - marcosdumay 5y ago
      Most countries start to care very quickly after the US calls them and discuss matters. Any centralization is fragile. Github is more fragile than what is possible, but there is little point on improving that.
- charcircuit 5y ago
  Git is decentralized. You can download a repo from anyone else who has it provided they expose those files to the internet.
  - jacquesm 5y ago
    Obviously. But that doesn't mean that you know where those other people are without some central place to communicate that, say a 'git hub'. There is a reason Github was served with these DMCA notices: it's a very effective choke point.
Waterluvian 5y ago
I know this is a silly hypothetical but say I forked it and then gutted the fork and built my own unrelated project in the repo. GitHub would delete my project that contains zero offending material?
- detaro 5y ago
  yes. (afaik github forks of a repo really all point to the same repo internally)
  - idealmedtech 5y ago
    This is only true if you use the fork button. You can easily create a new repo, clone the old repo, and push to the new repo. GitHub will not show a fork relationship between the two.
    - detaro 5y ago
      true, I assumed that from the question, because otherwise it wouldn't be a fork in any way if the history has been deleted.
      - charcircuit 5y ago
        I think he just means to create the repo like normal and push your fork there as opposed to creating a fork using the fork button.
      - idealmedtech 5y ago
        Even if the history is exactly the same, GitHub only tracks forks made through the fork button. A true git fork (eg anonymous clone, push to brand new repo, preserving all commit history) is not tracked.
        detaro 5y ago
        ... yes, that's what you already said?
smitop 5y ago
GitHub's takedown notice template says otherwise: "Have you searched for any forks of the allegedly infringing files or repositories? Each fork is a distinct repository and must be identified separately if you believe it is infringing and wish to have it taken down."
matheusmoreira 5y ago
> Forks are automatically removed Not from my computer.