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I switched to a 13" M1 after having a Dell XPS 15 as my daily driver. I had high standards and Apple blew them out of the water. I see some beach ball on occasi

I switched to a 13" M1 after having a Dell XPS 15 as my daily driver. I had high standards and Apple blew them out of the water. I see some beach ball on occasion, but I slam the machine hard. (8gb ram). It has been more reliable than the XPS 15.

harry8 5y ago
Better than a Dell XPS 15 is no standard at all. The Dell XPS 15 is an utterly terrible laptop that breaks if you close the lid and put it in your bag when you get up from your seat. It's a portable desktop falsely advertised as a laptop due to its many flaws. If the best that can be said for apple is better than Dell XPS 15, that is a really, really damning review. I hope it's vastly better than that for you.
- jordanthoms 5y ago
  Ok... so what's the laptop that can compete with the new 14 and 16 Macbook Pros then and doesn't have some stupid flaw? The issue with waking up in bags seems to be caused by Modern Standby which is on most new Windows laptops?
  - CoffeeBoi 5y ago
    I've had multiple Asus laptops (UX305, UX330 and most recently S435UA) and all of them ran Fedora flawlessly out of the box. Granted, none of them had Nvidia GPUs which is the usual pain point of desktop Linux.
  - michaelmrose 5y ago
    I was going to say just disable modern standby because that was totally a thing until spring 2020 when the registry key to disable it was removed. Microsoft is basically a toy OS run by incompetents without reasonable QA unfit to be anything but a launcher for stream.
  - MonaroVXR 5y ago
    HP Z-book, some Lenovo Thinkpads and some consumer Lenovo and HP notebooks.
  - ziml77 5y ago
    I would go with a Lenovo or HP machine before a Dell. Even if they all have the sleep issue (I don't know if that's the case), both Lenovo and HP have better build quality.
- chii 5y ago
  > Better than a Dell XPS 15 is no standard at all. so what is the laptop that would meet this standard for which you're making a judgement? So far, apple hardware has been superior to any other manufacturer, even with their warts, and their anti-consumer practises (of not having replaceable batteries, etc).
  - MonaroVXR 5y ago
    >So far, apple hardware has been superior to any other manufacturer, even with their warts, and their anti-consumer practises (of not having replaceable batteries, etc). Milage may vary with other manufacturers, it doesn't look like you would change to another manufacturer. Which is ok. Check business notebooks, from HP or Lenovo. (I forgot one particular Dell series.)
  - zdragnar 5y ago
    Not OP, but I have to chime in here- Dell's XPS line somehow got a reputation that it absolutely did not deserve as a good laptop to run linux on (or a good laptop at all). I've been perfectly happy with a surface book 2, and various Lenovo and HP laptops. They each have better and worse product lines. Currently rocking an HP elitebook for personal use and a MB Pro for work. The hardware quality is more or less the same on both. With the pro, you get a moderately better touchpad, a bit thinner and metal chassis. On the other hand, crap keyboard and the abomination that is the touch bar, and no legacy ports. Personally, I don't think I would buy Apple for myself ever again, but that's just me.
    - crubier 5y ago
      The fact that we even have to debate about which laptop is good for Linux or not makes me not want to bother. I switched to Mac 12 years ago, and I never had to bother thinking about choosing hardware since. It just works.
    - short12 5y ago
      It got the reputation because it is well deserved. The clickpad is far superior than macs and the software support is great
ftkftk 5y ago
I have had the opposite experience. Switched from a MB Pro that kept getting progressively worse over the course of a year (keys giving, overheating, lock ups) requiring rather annoying applecare interactions to an XPS 15. Granted it is not quite as pretty look at, but blows the mbpro out of the water performance and stability wise.

harry8 5y ago

Better than a Dell XPS 15 is no standard at all. The Dell XPS 15 is an utterly terrible laptop that breaks if you close the lid and put it in your bag when you get up from your seat. It's a portable desktop falsely advertised as a laptop due to its many flaws. If the best that can be said for apple is better than Dell XPS 15, that is a really, really damning review. I hope it's vastly better than that for you.

jordanthoms 5y ago
Ok... so what's the laptop that can compete with the new 14 and 16 Macbook Pros then and doesn't have some stupid flaw? The issue with waking up in bags seems to be caused by Modern Standby which is on most new Windows laptops?
- CoffeeBoi 5y ago
  I've had multiple Asus laptops (UX305, UX330 and most recently S435UA) and all of them ran Fedora flawlessly out of the box. Granted, none of them had Nvidia GPUs which is the usual pain point of desktop Linux.
- michaelmrose 5y ago
  I was going to say just disable modern standby because that was totally a thing until spring 2020 when the registry key to disable it was removed. Microsoft is basically a toy OS run by incompetents without reasonable QA unfit to be anything but a launcher for stream.
- MonaroVXR 5y ago
  HP Z-book, some Lenovo Thinkpads and some consumer Lenovo and HP notebooks.
- ziml77 5y ago
  I would go with a Lenovo or HP machine before a Dell. Even if they all have the sleep issue (I don't know if that's the case), both Lenovo and HP have better build quality.
chii 5y ago
> Better than a Dell XPS 15 is no standard at all. so what is the laptop that would meet this standard for which you're making a judgement? So far, apple hardware has been superior to any other manufacturer, even with their warts, and their anti-consumer practises (of not having replaceable batteries, etc).
- MonaroVXR 5y ago
  >So far, apple hardware has been superior to any other manufacturer, even with their warts, and their anti-consumer practises (of not having replaceable batteries, etc). Milage may vary with other manufacturers, it doesn't look like you would change to another manufacturer. Which is ok. Check business notebooks, from HP or Lenovo. (I forgot one particular Dell series.)
- zdragnar 5y ago
  Not OP, but I have to chime in here- Dell's XPS line somehow got a reputation that it absolutely did not deserve as a good laptop to run linux on (or a good laptop at all). I've been perfectly happy with a surface book 2, and various Lenovo and HP laptops. They each have better and worse product lines. Currently rocking an HP elitebook for personal use and a MB Pro for work. The hardware quality is more or less the same on both. With the pro, you get a moderately better touchpad, a bit thinner and metal chassis. On the other hand, crap keyboard and the abomination that is the touch bar, and no legacy ports. Personally, I don't think I would buy Apple for myself ever again, but that's just me.
  - crubier 5y ago
    The fact that we even have to debate about which laptop is good for Linux or not makes me not want to bother. I switched to Mac 12 years ago, and I never had to bother thinking about choosing hardware since. It just works.
  - short12 5y ago
    It got the reputation because it is well deserved. The clickpad is far superior than macs and the software support is great

ftkftk 5y ago

I have had the opposite experience. Switched from a MB Pro that kept getting progressively worse over the course of a year (keys giving, overheating, lock ups) requiring rather annoying applecare interactions to an XPS 15. Granted it is not quite as pretty look at, but blows the mbpro out of the water performance and stability wise.