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> But Munger didn’t return the favor. He said McFadden “reacted with his gut like an idiot. He didn’t look at the building intelligently.” In particular, he sai
by PragmaticPulp 5y ago
> But Munger didn’t return the favor. He said McFadden “reacted with his gut like an idiot. He didn’t look at the building intelligently.” In particular, he said, McFadden didn’t examine the models, which, he said, the chancellor would have happily shown him. “Everybody who sees the models goes ape-shit for them,” Munger said.
Incredible. This is the language of someone who has been surrounded by yes-men for so long that they’ve completely lost touch with how to be persuasive.
He can’t understand how anyone would disagree with his windowless dorm proposal because everyone in his near orbit has showered the idea with praise.
- CharlieMunger 5y agoFor decades, Charlie Munger has been world-renowned for his comically blunt phrasing. Join us on Reddit to start learning about Berkshire Hathaway: https://old.reddit.com/r/brkb/ https://old.reddit.com/r/brkb/ Today is Q3 2021 earnings!
- arthur_sav 5y agoNice try, Charlie Munger
- differentView 5y ago100%?
- CharlieMunger 5y agoThe notorious
- mdp2021 5y agoI am not sure what makes you think that that username is respectful, or good practice - it has a direct connotation of impersonation. I have seen dang react to a poster named "Mick Jagger", and I thought posts considered that it was not impossible Daniel could have later received the surprise of a mail with a passport scan and a signed portrait with autographed greetings. In this case, there is little doubt.
- tomp 5y agoNo, it's the language of someone who's rational and so rich that he doesn't need to be persuasive (a.k.a. manipulative) to make people like him. He can instead say things exactly as they are, without concern for his approval ratings or the risk of getting cancelled.
- marcellus23 5y agoThink you’re missing the /s
- mdp2021 5y agoNo, Munger declared literally in the past that his best quality is to be «rational» and one of his best known recurrent expressions is, "you will agree with me, because you are smart and I am right".
- marcellus23 5y agoI’m not disagreeing that he says that or that some people apparently find that endearing. It’s just hilarious to see it written out as an earnest sincere response.
- mdp2021 5y agoMunger himself mention the thing while joking in public. For the rest, I am not sure about what you find hilarious, if the ground sincerity of the statement makes you react. Some are just confident.
- kd0amg 5y agoThe language of someone who's rational would respond to the issues raised by the interlocutor instead of just insulting him.
- dragonwriter 5y ago> The language of someone who's rational would respond to the issues raised by the interlocutor Not necessarily. You are confusing social graces with rationality; rationality is optimized pursuit of one's own utility, not politeness.
- jterrys 5y agoThe man is 97 years old, and also one of the richest men in the world. He has done so by maintaining an absolutely-no-fucks-given-get-straight-to-the-goddamn-point attitude.
- paulpauper 5y agothere are plenty of ppl with 'no fucks given' attitude who are far from rich
- Kaibeezy 5y agoAnd plenty with both wealth and humility. I pity Munger and his victims.
- missedthecue 5y agoFor what it's worth, his other windowless student apartment building at the University of Michigan is rated 8.8/10, the highest on campus. https://www.veryapt.com/ApartmentReview-a7222-munger-graduate-residences-ann-arbor https://www.veryapt.com/ApartmentReview-a7222-munger-graduat...
- ibero 5y agowindowless is a piece of it. these are larger and have their own bathroom. this does not map well as as comparison. and, for myself an essential differentiator, the University of Michigan's are for older grad students.
- whimsicalism 5y agoThis seems better for younger students than older.
- PragmaticPulp 5y agoAnd all of the top reviews complain about the lack of windows. Even the positive reviews complain about the windows. The top review is titled “No windows, no way”. The second review says it was great until COVID hit and they had to actually spend time in the windowless rooms. Most of the positives seem to be about things like location and convenient access to other things, which has nothing to do with the architecture. The architecture is listed as the downside.
- JumpCrisscross 5y ago> Imagine how much praise it would receive if it had windows? It would also be more expensive and have fewer rooms. In all likelihood, that would result in multiple people per room. All that makes the result unclear.
- sudosysgen 5y agoHow? We can build rooms with Windows for less than 330 000$ per room. We don't even need to put multiple people per room at this price.
- JumpCrisscross 5y agoIt’s Southern California. I went to school in Arizona. Pretty much everyone put foil over their dorm-room windows. My sister went to UCSB. Their house had blackout curtains. As an adult, I adore windows. As a teenager and young adult, I wanted to sleep in after drinking too much or pulling an all nighter. (I passed this to a friend, an architect in Arizona. They think Munger’s spot on.) It’s not a windowless building. It’s a building with windowless units. If someone really wants a window, they can get one. (Also, it’s UCSB. Most students move off campus after freshman year.)
- browningstreet 5y agoWent to school at ASU, lived in Manzanita dorm. Can confirm, we had foil on our windows, too… but as much because the old building had weak air conditioning, though the sun could be brutal. More recent buildings at ASU have window treatments for variable sun conditions.
- JumpCrisscross 5y ago> More recent buildings at ASU have window treatments for variable sun conditions Manzanita and Barrett. The latter, new. (And everyone had hacked the air conditioner controls to override the limiter on week one.) Still had foil. It’s hot and bright and even with dark skin I was frequently sunburned.
- itronitron 5y agoSeems like if the school put exterior shades over the windows they could save on cooling.
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- PragmaticPulp 5y ago> Their house had blackout curtains. Most windows end up with coverings because it gives easy optionality. Close the shades when you want it dark. Open them when you don’t. Removing windows gives zero optionality.
- Judbudhud 5y agoAnd this is the post of someone who doesn't know anything about Charlie Munger. If you think he has "been surrounded by yes-men for so long", I have some news for you. He doesn't manage anyone.
- PragmaticPulp 5y ago> And this is the post of someone who doesn't know anything about Charlie Munger. “It’s okay actually because he always talks like this” is one of the weirdest arguments in this thread. Why can’t we call out bad behavior just because it comes from a specific person?Bad behavior is bad behavior. Being consistent about being bad doesn’t make it good. I don’t understand why anything thinks this is okay just because it comes from a specific personality. > If you think he has "been surrounded by yes-men for so long", I have some news for you. He doesn't manage anyone. He’s dangling $1.2 billion dollars in front of people to get them to do his bidding with this construction. I really don’t understand how you think that’s less of an incentive than giving someone a paycheck a fraction of that magnitude.
- pinewurst 5y agoHe’s only dangling $200M not $1.2B. The remainder is UCSB funded.
- everybodyknows 5y agoFrom the article: "Munger said he hadn’t decided how much of the building’s $1.2 billion cost he will cover, ..." His way of saying "You'd better be nice to me"?
- dantheman 5y agoOr lets see what the final plan is before I commit to anything...
- pinewurst 5y agohttps://philanthropynewsdigest.org/news/charles-munger-pledges-200-million-to-uc-santa-barbara-for-new-dorms https://philanthropynewsdigest.org/news/charles-munger-pledg... https://www.pacbiztimes.com/2021/11/02/ucsb-says-its-sticking-with-mungers-mega-dorm/ https://www.pacbiztimes.com/2021/11/02/ucsb-says-its-stickin... This and more recent articles mention the 200M out of 1.2B.
- throwaway2331 5y ago> Surprisingly, he said he doesn’t believe universities should allow donors to choose architects. “If you allow the donor to pick the architect, which has been done in many places, the buildings look like shit. But this is a special case. I’ve been doing it for a long time and I know more about it. And I have a very good architect helping me, Navy F. Banvard [a principal at VTBS Architects], who’s one of California’s biggest apartment house architects.” VTBS is the architect of record for the project. [0] > Munger said he based the dorm’s design on the Unité d'Habitation in Marseille by Le Corbusier. [0] > Given that the concrete housing block [Unité d'Habitation] in question has also been known as ‘La Maison du Fada’, or the ‘House of the Crazy’, by local people and even residents with a sense of humour,[1] > During the long phone interview, Munger said that with a large brood of children and grandchildren, he is “intimately familiar with university housing.” [0] Local Nonagenarian billionaire, raised through the great depression, serving in World War II, somehow still allowed to make decisions concerning others. Whole world shocked. [0] https://www.architecturalrecord.com/articles/15378-exclusive-interview-with-billionaire-charlie-munger-on-controversial-ucsb-dorm https://www.architecturalrecord.com/articles/15378-exclusive... [1] https://www.bbc.com/culture/article/20130423-design-icon-or-concrete-horro https://www.bbc.com/culture/article/20130423-design-icon-or-...
- fennecfoxen 5y ago> Munger said he based the dorm’s design on the Unité d'Habitation in Marseille by Le Corbusier. And in typical LeCorb style: it’s a top-down design for little people who have no souls, to live like the people in charge think they ought. Personal space is unimportant; privacy is an afterthought, because your life is not important except as part of a unified collective, which we, the elites, will manage to our own ends. Glorified common areas — dark and puny individual cells.
- ur-whale 5y ago> This is the language of someone who has been surrounded by yes-men for so long Munger is an asshole, but that's not something that's happened over time - he's always been like that, there's the entire BRKB shareholders meeting records as tangible proof.
- WanderPanda 5y agoWhy are soo many people who have a proven track record in the markets going haywire? Zuck with his Metaverse, Elon with his Tesla Bot, Sam Altman „Lets scan every eyeball in the world“ now Charlie Munger with his windowless dorms. Is it just their ever-growing echo chambers of yes-men or has the flooding of the markets with money maybe gone too far to keep everyone honest/down to earth?
- Pokepokalypse 5y ago>Is it just their ever-growing echo chambers of yes-men yes
- dantheman 5y agoThey can take chances on riskier more far out / potential technology. And they can actually make a go of it.
- mdp2021 5y agoNo, that is the language of somebody who does not need or want to speak differently than he thinks. And there is no hint that he does not understand the criticism he dismisses with his own good reasons. Although, yes, that «Everybody who sees the models goes ape-shit for them» sounds a bit odd, off expected statistics.
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