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LXQt 1.0.0

193 points by jlpcsl 5y ago

1MachineElf 5y ago
From the README.md for the repo: LXQt is the next generation of LXDE, the Lightweight Desktop Environment. It is the product of the merge between Razor-qt and LXDE-Qt. I was wondering what the relationship between LXQt and LXDE was. Is it just the LXQt project who is claiming this is the next generation, or is that the prevailing consensus among both projects?
- medstrom 5y ago
  Basically LXDE got rebranded into LXQt, though since DEs and WMs don't get obsolete fast, LXDE will continue to work for a long time. You can still pick LXDE in Debian if you prefer Gtk 2 for some reason.
  - pantalaimon 5y ago
    The thing is that Qt and Gtk3 and onward all consume more resources than Gtk2
  - luke2m 5y ago
    It’s a bit more than a rebranding, being completely rebased on a different framework, and LXDE still gets some work, for example, LXTerminal has commits from September. [0] [0] https://github.com/lxde/lxterminal https://github.com/lxde/lxterminal
  - heresie-dabord 5y ago
    Debian LXDE and Fedora LXDE Spin are performant, light distros that are easy to configure.
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medstrom 5y ago
LXQt seems like a marriage of great concepts, but I had difficulty finding end-user help last time I tried it. What sites would you go to? Where's the community at? Unrelated, but I wonder if anyone else feels this. All DEs seem broken/unfinished when the available settings aren't as comprehensive as in Windows or KDE. On Gnome you need gnome-tweak-tool. Without that it just isn't possible to do what feels like very common tasks, which puzzles me. What kind of "playtesting" does the LXQt developers do, how do they get their feedback from users?
- CRConrad 5y ago
  > All DEs seem broken/unfinished when the available settings aren't as comprehensive as in Windows or KDE. "...as comprehensive as in Windows up to Windows 7 (in Classic mode) or KDE." There, FTFY.
genpfault 5y ago
What's LXQt's Wayland story?
- abrowne 5y ago
  I'd guess Kwin.
  - yissp 5y ago
    Is Kwin usable without plasmashell / the rest of KDE? I always thought they were pretty tightly integrated. I feel we're currently missing a minimalist stacking Wayland compositor in the vein of something like openbox.
    - approxim8ion 5y ago
      KWin is indeed usable without the rest of KDE. It can be used as the window manager for XFCE or MATE, for example. Also, I'm not very educated in this matter, but isn't wlroots a fairly good Wayland compositor? Considering sway is built on it and supports both tiling and stacking, I think that might be worth a look.
      - pantalaimon 5y ago
        > It can be used as the window manager for XFCE or MATE, for example. But that's on X11 then, right?
        approxim8ion 5y ago
        Yes, although KWin now supports Wayland quite a bit. There's an explanation here: https://community.kde.org/KWin/Wayland#Why_Plasma_needs_Wayland.3F https://community.kde.org/KWin/Wayland#Why_Plasma_needs_Wayl...
      - yissp 5y ago
        As I understand it, wlroots is more of a library that you can build a Wayland compositor on top of (sway being one example). It's not a compositor in and of itself. It still might be a good choice for LXQt if they do plan on supporting Wayland, though.
rob_c 5y ago
Yey, will have to find some time to install later
ahmedfromtunis 5y ago
I had an old netbook with an Atom CPU and 2 Go of Ram. So naturally I installed Lubuntu on it with LXDE. It was ok. Then came LXQt. I tried to install on my machine but the new installer kept playing tricks on me. Fed up, I decided to give Ubuntu a try and what a surprise. Not only was it a bit snappier than Lubuntu. What made the difference, was that Ubuntu had a much, much better quality of life features that made using it much more productive. I wish I were competent enough to create a distro that's both lightweight and has essential features for sane, easy to use functionality. Alas, I'm not.
- ragnese 5y ago
  My needs have become more and more simple over the last couple of years. In particular because my work machine is now a company-provided Apple laptop (ew). So, only all of my personal machines are Linux, and my personal life computing needs are relatively simple, in nerd terms (web browser, ssh in my LAN, and SAMBA-style file sharing on my LAN). So my opinions might be a tad outdated as I haven't really fiddled with my UI that much in the last couple of years (except to switch back and forth between Wayland and X11, and nouveau and proprietary NVIDIA drivers for my main personal laptop). But I haven't participated in a good, old, Linux desktop holy war and rant in a long time, so here we go. :) GNOME definitely seems to be ahead of the competition (including KDE/Plasma) when it comes to basic, "just works", kinds of things. This includes better (hot-plugging) screen management in the common cases and the on-screen keyboard seems to work better/consistently than KDE's. I can't think of more off the top of my head, but I remember thinking there were more things that worked better- maybe audio/volume settings and network settings? I'm even one of those weirdos who enjoys the GNOME Shell workflow/UX, though when I say "GNOME", I'm mostly referring to the whole suite of desktop libraries/utilities/etc. So Budgie and GNOME Classic/Fallback also "count" as GNOME desktops to me. In any case, I do still have several gripes with the GNOME desktop(s): 1. Network Manager still seems to be unaware of wireguard. I hate that I have to manage this from the command line. 2. GDM's login screen doesn't share settings such as touchpad-tap-to-click with the regular desktop. Now, I understand that Linux is a multi-user system and that tap-to-click is configured on a per-user basis, but I feel like there should be (easily discoverable) global default settings. 3. GNOME Shell still feels a little slow and janky at times on my "old" personal laptop (2012, but has a Core i7 and 16GB of RAM). That seems to be the case for all combinations of Wayland/X11 + nouveau/NVIDIA, but I'll admit that nouveau is noticeably worse. It could be that it's an NVIDIA thing. 4. GNOME Shell's app drawer UX still sucks. I don't know what the answer is, and I agree with them that a nested menu that groups things by optional/convention-based metadata on .desktop files isn't a good option, but they still haven't found an answer that works for me. I guess I'm glad that we can at least manage and group things in recent versions, but that's too tedious for me, too. And the icons are still way too big. 5. [GNOME Shell] I thought the distinction between window-menu and app-menu was actually a good idea, but you just can't pull it off when you don't own the whole stack, which is a shame. So, I understand why they abandoned it. But, now that they did, the top bar is even more useless than it was in the earlier days.
lxe 5y ago
How lightweight can a desktop environment based on QT be? I thought QT is a rather hefty dependency.
- nuerow 5y ago
  > How lightweight can a desktop environment based on QT be? I thought QT is a rather hefty dependency. Hefty when compared to what? In a world of webview-based apps, Qt is extraordinarily lean.
  - MaxBarraclough 5y ago
    I believe the FLTK and FOX toolkits are generally quite a bit lighter. No doubt Qt has them both beat on convenience and features, but still, there are lighter toolkits out there.
  - kevin_thibedeau 5y ago
    Native Xlib.
    - formerly_proven 5y ago
      xlib is not a toolkit.
- jcelerier 5y ago
  how many GUI toolkits do you know that work on an STM32 uc ? because Qt does. https://resources.qt.io/videos/programming-for-smart-devices-microcontrollers-with-stm32-series-and-qt https://resources.qt.io/videos/programming-for-smart-devices... I think that's there's a huge problem with Qt's installer where I've seen a lot of people blindly checking all the boxes and installing things they'll never need like 6 different windows ABIs, the android version and whatnot which will install literally gigabytes of stuff and lead to a bloated perception (I teach students to make UIs with Qt every year and every year even if I warn them beforehand, they used to still fall into that trap... nowadays I just tell them to use aqt which will just install exactly what is needed). A build of Qt on desktop machines for the needs of LXQT (basically, QtCore, QtGui, QtWidgets) can be in the ~15-20 megabytes ballpark.
smoldesu 5y ago
I really cannot bring myself to use LXQt, even as someone who really likes the QT framework. KDE runs surprisingly fine, even on 13 year-old hardware, so it's hard to justify using such a stripped-back DE when there are better alternatives just around the corner. MATE and XFCE will do 99% of the things you want them to do but faster and more stable. I still have hopes that LXQt hits a degree of usability, though. I've been surprised before with desktops like Budgie.
- ragnese 5y ago
  I have similar feelings to everything you just said. I assume the appeal to LXQt isn't so much that it's "lightweight" as that it's "simple". Because, like you said, Plasma is actually very lightweight and snappy, and I'd be willing to bet there are very few places where LXQt will run well and Plasma won't.
  - iotku 5y ago
    >Plasma is actually very lightweight and snappy Not in my experience, though I have pretty high/less realistic standards coming from i3. It's plenty usable on modern hardware (anything midrange+ from the past 10 years or so), but it is worth noting that I've still run across folks running core 2 duos in recent times. (Although fwiw they were running plasma, just complaining about it not being very responsive)
    - vanderZwan 5y ago
      What I'm most interested in is the latency (I guess that's more or less the same as "snappy"). Back when I had a netbook LXDE was one of the few that felt good.
      - iotku 5y ago
        There's certainly some added latency in GPU composited desktops so a lot of the time that has an effect with modern desktop environments and/or wayland vs LXDE which as far as I know doesn't run a compositor. I'd love to find some good testing on it somewhere, but I do recall off the top of my head that Windows XP or Windows Vista/7 (with Areo disabled) had significantly lower latency than the GPU accelerated counterparts in Vista+. I believe it has to do a lot with Vsync, but imagine there's some additional overhead involved as well. Of course many would say removing screen tearing is a valid tradeoff there, I mostly agree but not everything is significantly effected by tearing either.
zoomablemind 5y ago
Version 1.0, must be a major milestone. Congrats! I wonder if there's a stand-out feature that signifies this release transition? I was recently looking into lightweight pocket linux setup, and considered desktop alternatives, zeroing in on Xfce or LXDE. Will give LXQt another chance.
approxim8ion 5y ago
LXQt is kind of in no man's land for me. If I want a very basic floating/stacking WM, I'll use Openbox (which is the WM they use anyway, just with extra stuff). If I want a Qt DE that is light on resources, Plasma is surprisingly good now (~400-450MB RAM on idle for me). Otherwise, something like a tiling WM will likely always be lighter. I do appreciate some of their bundled tools though. PCManFM is a great little file manager, and Featherpad is a much nicer notepad type basic text editor than say KWrite.
- JasonFruit 5y ago
  The niche LXQt fills for me is a light desktop environment that looks and feels "normal". For example, I just (like ten minutes ago) put Debian LXQt on an older Thinkpad for my kids to use, because it exposes things nicely and still is light enough to not be frustrating. It will also keep my wife from yelling at me if she has to help them with something when I'm not around. It's a good balance of light and usable.
  - approxim8ion 5y ago
    I can accept that, thanks for sharing! I agree, things like XFCE and MATE need quite a bit of mucking around to actually look "normal". I also quite like IceWM on Antix for this kind of experience.
    - JasonFruit 5y ago
      I agree on IceWM; it was not hard to make it give that feeling of, "Oh, so it's just a normal computer, then." JWM was another of the super-light window managers that could do that pretty well with the right setup.
    - pantalaimon 5y ago
      > XFCE and MATE need quite a bit of mucking around to actually look "normal" That's an odd statement. Sure XFCE may not be as polished or consistent, but most distros will ship a pretty consistent desktop. Mate on the other hand received plenty of UX work from Red Hat and Canonical back when it was still Gnome 2 and you still have all the themes and styles from that era, to me it doesn't get more 'normal' than that. (OK, they changed the accent color to green and there is apparently no easy way to change that, but I'd say that's the only step back in that regard.)
11235813213455 5y ago
I'm still on Lubuntu 18.04 (under old LXDE), not sure of what to do yet
- silisili 5y ago
  Not sure if it's any consolation, but I really liked LXDE, and really disliked LXQT. Something about the feel is just very different. If you end in the same boat, probably Xfce is the closest. I ended up back on Gnome(with many customizations).
  - AnIdiotOnTheNet 5y ago
    I'd have to agree with that. I can't put my finger on why, but LXDE felt ok in a way that LXQt just doesn't.
    - the_only_law 5y ago
      I never used LXDE much, but LXQt felt too oddly coupled. I don’t recall the exact details, but I found that I could no longer use the file manager after a minor desktop misconfiguration
- roter 5y ago
  I went to Xubuntu 20.04 and am quite happy. In fact, I switched my desktop to Xubuntu from Lubuntu in 18.04 so that I could upgrade to 20.04 [0]. [0] https://askubuntu.com/a/1363525 https://askubuntu.com/a/1363525
pdpi 5y ago
https://github.com/lxqt/lxqt/pull/2095 https://github.com/lxqt/lxqt/pull/2095 I got struck hard by this. I was very, very confused when I followed this link, looked at the repo, and saw commits from five years ago.
- bravetraveler 5y ago
  This kind of thing has unfortunately been rather common in the bigger corp environments where I've worked... Inevitably someone finds out about submodules, falls in love, and suggests a megarepo like this. Then, forgetting about them - and never updating.
LeoPanthera 5y ago
LXQt is my favorite DE to put on a Raspberry Pi. It's fast and light on resources. The only problem is that the version included in RPi OS is terribly old, and I haven't found a convenient way of getting the bleeding edge version onto it.
- winrid 5y ago
  You should be able to add their repo, or newer Debian version PPA, to your sources.list, and apt update / upgrade.
aliswe 5y ago
no screenshots, wouldnt this be needed?
rcarmo 5y ago
I can’t figure out from the changelog or the main LXQt site if they finally have a “true” dark mode. Any hints on that?
jbirer 5y ago
How does it reach 1.0.0 without working font scaling? When you set DPI it has no effect.

193 points by jlpcsl 5y ago

From the README.md for the repo: LXQt is the next generation of LXDE, the Lightweight Desktop Environment. It is the product of the merge between Razor-qt and LXDE-Qt. I was wondering what the relationship between LXQt and LXDE was. Is it just the LXQt project who is claiming this is the next generation, or is that the prevailing consensus among both projects?

medstrom 5y ago
Basically LXDE got rebranded into LXQt, though since DEs and WMs don't get obsolete fast, LXDE will continue to work for a long time. You can still pick LXDE in Debian if you prefer Gtk 2 for some reason.
- pantalaimon 5y ago
  The thing is that Qt and Gtk3 and onward all consume more resources than Gtk2
- luke2m 5y ago
  It’s a bit more than a rebranding, being completely rebased on a different framework, and LXDE still gets some work, for example, LXTerminal has commits from September. [0] [0] https://github.com/lxde/lxterminal https://github.com/lxde/lxterminal
- heresie-dabord 5y ago
  Debian LXDE and Fedora LXDE Spin are performant, light distros that are easy to configure.

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medstrom 5y ago

LXQt seems like a marriage of great concepts, but I had difficulty finding end-user help last time I tried it. What sites would you go to? Where's the community at? Unrelated, but I wonder if anyone else feels this. All DEs seem broken/unfinished when the available settings aren't as comprehensive as in Windows or KDE. On Gnome you need gnome-tweak-tool. Without that it just isn't possible to do what feels like very common tasks, which puzzles me. What kind of "playtesting" does the LXQt developers do, how do they get their feedback from users?

CRConrad 5y ago
> All DEs seem broken/unfinished when the available settings aren't as comprehensive as in Windows or KDE. "...as comprehensive as in Windows up to Windows 7 (in Classic mode) or KDE." There, FTFY.

genpfault 5y ago

What's LXQt's Wayland story?

abrowne 5y ago
I'd guess Kwin.
- yissp 5y ago
  Is Kwin usable without plasmashell / the rest of KDE? I always thought they were pretty tightly integrated. I feel we're currently missing a minimalist stacking Wayland compositor in the vein of something like openbox.
  - approxim8ion 5y ago
    KWin is indeed usable without the rest of KDE. It can be used as the window manager for XFCE or MATE, for example. Also, I'm not very educated in this matter, but isn't wlroots a fairly good Wayland compositor? Considering sway is built on it and supports both tiling and stacking, I think that might be worth a look.
    - pantalaimon 5y ago
      > It can be used as the window manager for XFCE or MATE, for example. But that's on X11 then, right?
      - approxim8ion 5y ago
        Yes, although KWin now supports Wayland quite a bit. There's an explanation here: https://community.kde.org/KWin/Wayland#Why_Plasma_needs_Wayland.3F https://community.kde.org/KWin/Wayland#Why_Plasma_needs_Wayl...
    - yissp 5y ago
      As I understand it, wlroots is more of a library that you can build a Wayland compositor on top of (sway being one example). It's not a compositor in and of itself. It still might be a good choice for LXQt if they do plan on supporting Wayland, though.

rob_c 5y ago

Yey, will have to find some time to install later

ahmedfromtunis 5y ago

I had an old netbook with an Atom CPU and 2 Go of Ram. So naturally I installed Lubuntu on it with LXDE. It was ok. Then came LXQt. I tried to install on my machine but the new installer kept playing tricks on me. Fed up, I decided to give Ubuntu a try and what a surprise. Not only was it a bit snappier than Lubuntu. What made the difference, was that Ubuntu had a much, much better quality of life features that made using it much more productive. I wish I were competent enough to create a distro that's both lightweight and has essential features for sane, easy to use functionality. Alas, I'm not.

ragnese 5y ago
My needs have become more and more simple over the last couple of years. In particular because my work machine is now a company-provided Apple laptop (ew). So, only all of my personal machines are Linux, and my personal life computing needs are relatively simple, in nerd terms (web browser, ssh in my LAN, and SAMBA-style file sharing on my LAN). So my opinions might be a tad outdated as I haven't really fiddled with my UI that much in the last couple of years (except to switch back and forth between Wayland and X11, and nouveau and proprietary NVIDIA drivers for my main personal laptop). But I haven't participated in a good, old, Linux desktop holy war and rant in a long time, so here we go. :) GNOME definitely seems to be ahead of the competition (including KDE/Plasma) when it comes to basic, "just works", kinds of things. This includes better (hot-plugging) screen management in the common cases and the on-screen keyboard seems to work better/consistently than KDE's. I can't think of more off the top of my head, but I remember thinking there were more things that worked better- maybe audio/volume settings and network settings? I'm even one of those weirdos who enjoys the GNOME Shell workflow/UX, though when I say "GNOME", I'm mostly referring to the whole suite of desktop libraries/utilities/etc. So Budgie and GNOME Classic/Fallback also "count" as GNOME desktops to me. In any case, I do still have several gripes with the GNOME desktop(s): 1. Network Manager still seems to be unaware of wireguard. I hate that I have to manage this from the command line. 2. GDM's login screen doesn't share settings such as touchpad-tap-to-click with the regular desktop. Now, I understand that Linux is a multi-user system and that tap-to-click is configured on a per-user basis, but I feel like there should be (easily discoverable) global default settings. 3. GNOME Shell still feels a little slow and janky at times on my "old" personal laptop (2012, but has a Core i7 and 16GB of RAM). That seems to be the case for all combinations of Wayland/X11 + nouveau/NVIDIA, but I'll admit that nouveau is noticeably worse. It could be that it's an NVIDIA thing. 4. GNOME Shell's app drawer UX still sucks. I don't know what the answer is, and I agree with them that a nested menu that groups things by optional/convention-based metadata on .desktop files isn't a good option, but they still haven't found an answer that works for me. I guess I'm glad that we can at least manage and group things in recent versions, but that's too tedious for me, too. And the icons are still way too big. 5. [GNOME Shell] I thought the distinction between window-menu and app-menu was actually a good idea, but you just can't pull it off when you don't own the whole stack, which is a shame. So, I understand why they abandoned it. But, now that they did, the top bar is even more useless than it was in the earlier days.

lxe 5y ago

How lightweight can a desktop environment based on QT be? I thought QT is a rather hefty dependency.

nuerow 5y ago
> How lightweight can a desktop environment based on QT be? I thought QT is a rather hefty dependency. Hefty when compared to what? In a world of webview-based apps, Qt is extraordinarily lean.
- MaxBarraclough 5y ago
  I believe the FLTK and FOX toolkits are generally quite a bit lighter. No doubt Qt has them both beat on convenience and features, but still, there are lighter toolkits out there.
- kevin_thibedeau 5y ago
  Native Xlib.
  - formerly_proven 5y ago
    xlib is not a toolkit.
jcelerier 5y ago
how many GUI toolkits do you know that work on an STM32 uc ? because Qt does. https://resources.qt.io/videos/programming-for-smart-devices-microcontrollers-with-stm32-series-and-qt https://resources.qt.io/videos/programming-for-smart-devices... I think that's there's a huge problem with Qt's installer where I've seen a lot of people blindly checking all the boxes and installing things they'll never need like 6 different windows ABIs, the android version and whatnot which will install literally gigabytes of stuff and lead to a bloated perception (I teach students to make UIs with Qt every year and every year even if I warn them beforehand, they used to still fall into that trap... nowadays I just tell them to use aqt which will just install exactly what is needed). A build of Qt on desktop machines for the needs of LXQT (basically, QtCore, QtGui, QtWidgets) can be in the ~15-20 megabytes ballpark.

smoldesu 5y ago

I really cannot bring myself to use LXQt, even as someone who really likes the QT framework. KDE runs surprisingly fine, even on 13 year-old hardware, so it's hard to justify using such a stripped-back DE when there are better alternatives just around the corner. MATE and XFCE will do 99% of the things you want them to do but faster and more stable. I still have hopes that LXQt hits a degree of usability, though. I've been surprised before with desktops like Budgie.

ragnese 5y ago
I have similar feelings to everything you just said. I assume the appeal to LXQt isn't so much that it's "lightweight" as that it's "simple". Because, like you said, Plasma is actually very lightweight and snappy, and I'd be willing to bet there are very few places where LXQt will run well and Plasma won't.
- iotku 5y ago
  >Plasma is actually very lightweight and snappy Not in my experience, though I have pretty high/less realistic standards coming from i3. It's plenty usable on modern hardware (anything midrange+ from the past 10 years or so), but it is worth noting that I've still run across folks running core 2 duos in recent times. (Although fwiw they were running plasma, just complaining about it not being very responsive)
  - vanderZwan 5y ago
    What I'm most interested in is the latency (I guess that's more or less the same as "snappy"). Back when I had a netbook LXDE was one of the few that felt good.
    - iotku 5y ago
      There's certainly some added latency in GPU composited desktops so a lot of the time that has an effect with modern desktop environments and/or wayland vs LXDE which as far as I know doesn't run a compositor. I'd love to find some good testing on it somewhere, but I do recall off the top of my head that Windows XP or Windows Vista/7 (with Areo disabled) had significantly lower latency than the GPU accelerated counterparts in Vista+. I believe it has to do a lot with Vsync, but imagine there's some additional overhead involved as well. Of course many would say removing screen tearing is a valid tradeoff there, I mostly agree but not everything is significantly effected by tearing either.

zoomablemind 5y ago

Version 1.0, must be a major milestone. Congrats! I wonder if there's a stand-out feature that signifies this release transition? I was recently looking into lightweight pocket linux setup, and considered desktop alternatives, zeroing in on Xfce or LXDE. Will give LXQt another chance.

approxim8ion 5y ago

LXQt is kind of in no man's land for me. If I want a very basic floating/stacking WM, I'll use Openbox (which is the WM they use anyway, just with extra stuff). If I want a Qt DE that is light on resources, Plasma is surprisingly good now (~400-450MB RAM on idle for me). Otherwise, something like a tiling WM will likely always be lighter. I do appreciate some of their bundled tools though. PCManFM is a great little file manager, and Featherpad is a much nicer notepad type basic text editor than say KWrite.

JasonFruit 5y ago
The niche LXQt fills for me is a light desktop environment that looks and feels "normal". For example, I just (like ten minutes ago) put Debian LXQt on an older Thinkpad for my kids to use, because it exposes things nicely and still is light enough to not be frustrating. It will also keep my wife from yelling at me if she has to help them with something when I'm not around. It's a good balance of light and usable.
- approxim8ion 5y ago
  I can accept that, thanks for sharing! I agree, things like XFCE and MATE need quite a bit of mucking around to actually look "normal". I also quite like IceWM on Antix for this kind of experience.
  - JasonFruit 5y ago
    I agree on IceWM; it was not hard to make it give that feeling of, "Oh, so it's just a normal computer, then." JWM was another of the super-light window managers that could do that pretty well with the right setup.
  - pantalaimon 5y ago
    > XFCE and MATE need quite a bit of mucking around to actually look "normal" That's an odd statement. Sure XFCE may not be as polished or consistent, but most distros will ship a pretty consistent desktop. Mate on the other hand received plenty of UX work from Red Hat and Canonical back when it was still Gnome 2 and you still have all the themes and styles from that era, to me it doesn't get more 'normal' than that. (OK, they changed the accent color to green and there is apparently no easy way to change that, but I'd say that's the only step back in that regard.)

11235813213455 5y ago

I'm still on Lubuntu 18.04 (under old LXDE), not sure of what to do yet

silisili 5y ago
Not sure if it's any consolation, but I really liked LXDE, and really disliked LXQT. Something about the feel is just very different. If you end in the same boat, probably Xfce is the closest. I ended up back on Gnome(with many customizations).
- AnIdiotOnTheNet 5y ago
  I'd have to agree with that. I can't put my finger on why, but LXDE felt ok in a way that LXQt just doesn't.
  - the_only_law 5y ago
    I never used LXDE much, but LXQt felt too oddly coupled. I don’t recall the exact details, but I found that I could no longer use the file manager after a minor desktop misconfiguration
roter 5y ago
I went to Xubuntu 20.04 and am quite happy. In fact, I switched my desktop to Xubuntu from Lubuntu in 18.04 so that I could upgrade to 20.04 [0]. [0] https://askubuntu.com/a/1363525 https://askubuntu.com/a/1363525

pdpi 5y ago

https://github.com/lxqt/lxqt/pull/2095 https://github.com/lxqt/lxqt/pull/2095 I got struck hard by this. I was very, very confused when I followed this link, looked at the repo, and saw commits from five years ago.

bravetraveler 5y ago
This kind of thing has unfortunately been rather common in the bigger corp environments where I've worked... Inevitably someone finds out about submodules, falls in love, and suggests a megarepo like this. Then, forgetting about them - and never updating.

LeoPanthera 5y ago

LXQt is my favorite DE to put on a Raspberry Pi. It's fast and light on resources. The only problem is that the version included in RPi OS is terribly old, and I haven't found a convenient way of getting the bleeding edge version onto it.

winrid 5y ago
You should be able to add their repo, or newer Debian version PPA, to your sources.list, and apt update / upgrade.

aliswe 5y ago

no screenshots, wouldnt this be needed?

rcarmo 5y ago

I can’t figure out from the changelog or the main LXQt site if they finally have a “true” dark mode. Any hints on that?

jbirer 5y ago

How does it reach 1.0.0 without working font scaling? When you set DPI it has no effect.