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Obnoxious comment and perfect example of how toxic this place has become.
by Kiro 5y ago
Obnoxious comment and perfect example of how toxic this place has become.
- fishtacos 5y agoI actually thought OP's take was very pertinent to the situation. ...which was riddled with phrases like: "With all that we’ve accomplished in mind, and more than five great years at Microsoft under my belt, I’ve decided it’s time for me to go back to my startup roots. What drives me is enabling builders to create the future. Not even Clark Kent could be this braggadocios.
- _vertigo 5y agoSorry, what’s bad about that?
- afarrell 5y agoIf you start from the assumption that it is meaningless and insincere, then it is eye-rollingly vapid. If you start from the assumption that it is a genuine attempt to put messy feelings into concise words, then it is a bit lacks vividness but is nonetheless heartfelt. When you choose not to trust someone, you make them untrustworthy.
- fishtacos 5y agoIs that why we make judgement calls on this case? No one can know the intent or original thoughts of the author, but we can certainly ascribe qualities to their product based on our experience... The fun exercise here is not that this is yet another vapid post on HN, but that people are defending it.
- adventured 5y ago> The fun exercise here is not that this is yet another vapid post on HN, but that people are defending it. It's quite plausible that the simple truth of the matter is that some people commenting here, defending the post, may feel that HN shouldn't be so very frequently cynical, negative, mean, quick to jump to assuming the worst about intentions, and so on. The Guidelines - for good reason - even go out of the way to try to drive users away from behaving that way.
- afarrell 5y agoThats my motive. Why? Because “If people would assume the worst about someone as competent at communication as $leader, then how much more likely are they to mistrust me when I try to communicate sincerely?” is the story I tell myself. Spending time in low-trust environments does bad things to the psyche.
- fishtacos 5y agoReading up higher will inform you of context, but to reiterate: OP: "Look the guy probably had some success and met some great people. So why in the hell can't you say that in your own words?" My comment: "Not even Clark Kent could be this braggadocios." There are better way of expressing one's (dis)satisfaction in the workplace. Starting with, perhaps, whittling down one's pride in accomplishing what tens of thousands already have...
- renewiltord 5y agoWhen a leader lists each of these accomplishments, it’s less “See what I did” and more “To the team that did this: I see you, I recognize your contribution”. I think all these comments are incredibly childish. It’s a nice goodbye letter from their well known and visible leader.
- fishtacos 5y agoThen we probably agree to disagree on this point. A braggadocios "goodbye letter" is worse than no letter at all. The corporate speak regurgitation is icing on the cake.
- nine_k 5y agoHe cannot say it in his own words because it's a ritual. All formulae here are ritualistic, following a corporate protocol for such speeches. The speaker's agency is,limited to choosing which formulae to choose, and filling in the predefined slots in them. The point of the ritual is to signal the world that all goes as planned, while giving away as few salient details as possible.
- fishtacos 5y ago"The speaker's agency is,limited to choosing which formulae to choose, and filling in the predefined slots in them." Sometimes it's better to say nothing at all than be thought a fool.
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- stelonix 5y agoI do agree we're living an eternal september for the past months and comment quality has gone down to reddit-level, but I also agree with the commenter about this specific post from GH's founder.
- fishtacos 5y agoCurious as to why you think this is an "eternal september" vs.... anything else/your standard.
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- 5e92cb50239222b 5y agohttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=926703 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=926703 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=582513 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=582513 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=289254 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=289254 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=253657 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=253657 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=66057 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=66057 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13852 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13852 From the HN guidelines.
- 1123581321 5y agoReddit-level is a moving target. Both are trending in the same direction, one faster and earlier than the other.
- BoorishBears 5y agoAre you kidding? Even the title is intentionally uninformative clickbait.
- meragrin_ 5y agoHow so? My first thought when reading the title and seeing it was a GitHub blog was that someone was probably leaving the company. Do you expect someone leaving their company to title their goodbye blog post like "John Doe leaving GitHub"?
- Taywee 5y agoMy first thought was "GitHub has some underappreciated feature or functionality that saved somebody's ass at their job, and this is their write-up".
- meragrin_ 5y agoBut the blog post was on GitHub's blog. They would title something like that more like "How FEATURE Saves Your Ass".
- BoorishBears 5y agoHave we really reached a place where now "Thank you Company" means "I'm leaving Company"???
- Taywee 5y agoI agree. I clicked on this expecting something more interesting than some corporate executive's resignation letter.
- azemetre 5y agoIs it really obnoxious? The world is starting to realize that tech companies are causing a lot of societal damage that will take years, if not generations to repair. People are also starting to get upset at large corporations for being tone death and having zero social contracts for the societies they reside in. Public opinion is turning and GitHub/Microsoft are just getting caught in the crosshairs with public sentiment.
- thrdbndndn 5y agoTo me, it's obnoxious because this kind of "complaint" is just as formulaic and will appear on every single announcement post thread.
- azemetre 5y agoThat's fair. It is interesting when you look at other types of farewell post over the years/decade on HN (mostly open source projects or programming langs). There is definitely a tendency to favor those types versus corporate ones.
- Drblessing 5y agoExactly, why is that the top comment.
- Barrin92 5y agodisagree. Honest exasperation over the constant fakeness in the industry and how corporate it has become is valuable in the sense that it at least expresses a genuine emotion, something that can't be said about the empty but faux-civil communication that is 99% of the tech industry nowadays with its constant need to pat its own back.