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As a professor, I think the actions of The University of Florida are abhorrent. I would never want to work in an environment that kowtows to politics. There are
by ModernMech 5y ago
As a professor, I think the actions of The University of Florida are abhorrent. I would never want to work in an environment that kowtows to politics. There are enough political considerations within a University, but having to deal with state politics as well? Count me out.
At the same time, he doesn’t have tenure? So they are actually fully within their rights to do this, and really no one should be surprised.
But here is my question: the prosecutors couldn’t find any tenured professors to help them in their lawsuit? Because the University can’t say anything to them about it; a tenured (full, not typically associate) professor has the right to use the name of their institution without their permission. It seems to me to be an expert witness, one would desire the use of the UoF credentials.
- throwaway0a5e 5y agoAnd there's no shortage of tenured professors who resent their employer but stick around because tenure.
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- klyrs 5y ago> So they are actually fully within their rights to do this, and really no one should be surprised. They have the power, nobody should be surprised that they flex it. Maybe. Do you feel that it's always ethical to perform every action that is within your legal rights? Is the legal system devoid of examples, where an act was legal until it was exercised in excess, and found to be unethical? "Surprised" doesn't describe my response to this abuse of power. That would be "outrage".
- hindsightbias 5y agoJustice Scalia used to argue that torture didn’t meet the 8th ammendment cruel or unusual punishmenents clause because it wasn’t punishment. It was an interrogation technique and they hadn’t been convicted. We don’t have court rulings on “enhanced” interrogation techniques so they can just be rolled out whenever someone thinks they can get away with it.
- driverdan 5y ago> So they are actually fully within their rights to do this, and really no one should be surprised. If it's a public institution the 1st amendment applies. Public institutions should not be applying any limits to employee speech.
- voakbasda 5y agoHope the ACLU gets involved.
- nradov 5y agoThis is a civil case. There are no prosecutors.
- jrm4 5y agoThey are fully within their rights to do this AND LITERALLY EVERYONE SHOULD BE VERY SURPRISED.
- rayiner 5y agoAre you kidding? Universities have been kowtowing to politics for decades now. The latest example: https://hac.bard.edu/amor-mundi/mit-disinvites-a-climate-scientist-2021-10-07 https://hac.bard.edu/amor-mundi/mit-disinvites-a-climate-sci.... Conservatives finally just woke up about it.
- mthoms 5y agoYour example, valid as it is, applies to events happening on-campus, not off. It doesn’t seem comparable to this situation.
- ClumsyPilot 5y ago"So they are actually fully within their rights to do this" Its not an offense again thr proffesor, it's an offense against the jistice system. Naivly, I hoped that doing something like this would have serious consequences.
- dekhn 5y agoI have never heard that tenured professors can use the name of their institution without permission. I don't think that's either permitted by any rules (to the extent that rules that apply to tenured professors vary and are only partially codified), or tacitly permitted by the universities and their press departments. Obviously a subject matter expert in a trial is allowed to describe their credentials (education and employement) but that's not a right solely for tenured professors. If you could point to written policies or analysis supporting this claim I would be very interested to see it.