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Nobody verified my code so far, they just eyeball the app. So the practical impact of such a leak is probably small, since people will fall for dumb forgeries a

Nobody verified my code so far, they just eyeball the app. So the practical impact of such a leak is probably small, since people will fall for dumb forgeries already.

raxxorrax 5y ago
Exactly my experience. Not a fan of a vaccine pass, but I did show it at a restaurant they didn't even know what to do with it. Looked at it a bit confused, said 'yes, yes' and that was it. No check whatsoever. I don't mind that at all to be honest. Airports check it, but other than that...
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stavros 5y ago
In Greece, the vast majority verifies certificates, with high-density venues like clubs asking for ID as well.
- LammyL 5y ago
  I was in Greece (Santorini) for the past 5 days and nobody asked about COVID certificate and hardly anyone wore a mask.
torben-friis 5y ago
I had it verified constantly, both in airports and (on a trip to Italy) on pretty much every restaurant or bar I went to. I think it was only once that they were fine with showing it, all the others had scanners.
- lixtra 5y ago
  But did you have to show an ID or could you just show a John Doe certificate?
  - torben-friis 5y ago
    In the case of airports, ID was needed. For restaurants I guess I could have shown any valid QR.
    - Aachen 5y ago
      Same here. Only when entering a non-EU country after flying there, they checked with a scanner. Nowhere else. Not that I do a lot of risky activities at the moment, though, so perhaps I've just gotten unlucky with the places where it should have been checked.
  - ben_w 5y ago
    In Berlin this is wildly variable. Some places have no checks at all; other places you need to show one of {show the QR code, use the Luca contact tracking site, fill out a paper form}; at least one needs the QR code and a valid ID card (not sure what, but excluding the health insurance cards despite those being photo ID). They didn’t scan the QR codes in the places I’ve been to, they just looked at them. This isn’t the first time I’ve seen cargo-cult attitudes to how the content of mobile or tablet screens relates to security.
- Semaphor 5y ago
  I don’t go out a lot, but I’ve had no verification in 2 restaurants and one bar so far. Just a check that it’s scrollable in one case, otherwise just that the name sounds like it could be mine. No scanning of the QR code, no ID check. And I’m not even using the official app for Germany, but the "Corona Tracing" fork.
neals 5y ago
While I'm having great fun with my galaxy Fold, waving my huge QR code at the clubs all the way from the back of the line.
ginko 5y ago
My experience was very mixed with my (limited) travel I did this year. In Austria they just eyeball your certificate. In Italy everyone used an app to verify the qr code (although I've still only gotten my ID checked once).
wasmitnetzen 5y ago
It varies widely by country. From personal experience and what I've heard from relatives, at private venues: * Germany: usually quick glance at the QR code * France: usually properly scanned * Sweden: not even planned to be used * Italy: usually properly scanned
- wongarsu 5y ago
  In Germany I've had some people scroll/interact with the app to make sure it's not just a screenshot, but so far nobody ever scanned my QR code.
  - varajelle 5y ago
    And what if it was a screenshot? What's wrong with a screenshot? I'm alway taking screenshot of my qr code for boarding pass and things like that so I don't have to keep the airline app open and it works without network.
    - wongarsu 5y ago
      The easiest way to pretend you are vaccinated is to take a screenshot from somebody with the certificate and photoshop the name. Of course that's trivial to detect by interacting with it or scanning the QR code (which won't match the photoshopped name).
- toyg 5y ago
  * England: what is even covid
  - whywhywhywhy 5y ago
    Honestly feels completely back to normal here, streets and bars are full of people again, definitely only about 30% still wearing masks. Not endorsing it either way, just surprised how quickly everyone gave up on it here when places in Europe are still implementing passports and requiring scans to enter stores/restaurants.
jagger27 5y ago
I haven't had my Canadian QR code properly scanned once either.
- AMD_DRIVERS 5y ago
  I've had mine scanned a few times now, only when eating in. I'm in Ottawa FWIW, people seem to be doing it mostly right here. Kind of annoying that I have to show my ID too, but luckily they accept an OHIP card as ID, saves having to find my passport.
  - jagger27 5y ago
    I’m also in Ottawa, for what it’s worth. I’ve found people were more thorough with the first non-QR system than the new one.
consumer451 5y ago
The only place that really checks with the app in my world is a sweaty dance club in Prague. This is actually very appropriate. They even match with my ID.

Nobody verified my code so far, they just eyeball the app. So the practical impact of such a leak is probably small, since people will fall for dumb forgeries already.

raxxorrax 5y ago

Exactly my experience. Not a fan of a vaccine pass, but I did show it at a restaurant they didn't even know what to do with it. Looked at it a bit confused, said 'yes, yes' and that was it. No check whatsoever. I don't mind that at all to be honest. Airports check it, but other than that...

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stavros 5y ago

In Greece, the vast majority verifies certificates, with high-density venues like clubs asking for ID as well.

LammyL 5y ago
I was in Greece (Santorini) for the past 5 days and nobody asked about COVID certificate and hardly anyone wore a mask.

torben-friis 5y ago

I had it verified constantly, both in airports and (on a trip to Italy) on pretty much every restaurant or bar I went to. I think it was only once that they were fine with showing it, all the others had scanners.

lixtra 5y ago
But did you have to show an ID or could you just show a John Doe certificate?
- torben-friis 5y ago
  In the case of airports, ID was needed. For restaurants I guess I could have shown any valid QR.
  - Aachen 5y ago
    Same here. Only when entering a non-EU country after flying there, they checked with a scanner. Nowhere else. Not that I do a lot of risky activities at the moment, though, so perhaps I've just gotten unlucky with the places where it should have been checked.
- ben_w 5y ago
  In Berlin this is wildly variable. Some places have no checks at all; other places you need to show one of {show the QR code, use the Luca contact tracking site, fill out a paper form}; at least one needs the QR code and a valid ID card (not sure what, but excluding the health insurance cards despite those being photo ID). They didn’t scan the QR codes in the places I’ve been to, they just looked at them. This isn’t the first time I’ve seen cargo-cult attitudes to how the content of mobile or tablet screens relates to security.
Semaphor 5y ago
I don’t go out a lot, but I’ve had no verification in 2 restaurants and one bar so far. Just a check that it’s scrollable in one case, otherwise just that the name sounds like it could be mine. No scanning of the QR code, no ID check. And I’m not even using the official app for Germany, but the "Corona Tracing" fork.

neals 5y ago

While I'm having great fun with my galaxy Fold, waving my huge QR code at the clubs all the way from the back of the line.

ginko 5y ago

My experience was very mixed with my (limited) travel I did this year. In Austria they just eyeball your certificate. In Italy everyone used an app to verify the qr code (although I've still only gotten my ID checked once).

wasmitnetzen 5y ago

It varies widely by country. From personal experience and what I've heard from relatives, at private venues: * Germany: usually quick glance at the QR code * France: usually properly scanned * Sweden: not even planned to be used * Italy: usually properly scanned

wongarsu 5y ago
In Germany I've had some people scroll/interact with the app to make sure it's not just a screenshot, but so far nobody ever scanned my QR code.
- varajelle 5y ago
  And what if it was a screenshot? What's wrong with a screenshot? I'm alway taking screenshot of my qr code for boarding pass and things like that so I don't have to keep the airline app open and it works without network.
  - wongarsu 5y ago
    The easiest way to pretend you are vaccinated is to take a screenshot from somebody with the certificate and photoshop the name. Of course that's trivial to detect by interacting with it or scanning the QR code (which won't match the photoshopped name).
toyg 5y ago
* England: what is even covid
- whywhywhywhy 5y ago
  Honestly feels completely back to normal here, streets and bars are full of people again, definitely only about 30% still wearing masks. Not endorsing it either way, just surprised how quickly everyone gave up on it here when places in Europe are still implementing passports and requiring scans to enter stores/restaurants.

jagger27 5y ago

I haven't had my Canadian QR code properly scanned once either.

AMD_DRIVERS 5y ago
I've had mine scanned a few times now, only when eating in. I'm in Ottawa FWIW, people seem to be doing it mostly right here. Kind of annoying that I have to show my ID too, but luckily they accept an OHIP card as ID, saves having to find my passport.
- jagger27 5y ago
  I’m also in Ottawa, for what it’s worth. I’ve found people were more thorough with the first non-QR system than the new one.

consumer451 5y ago

The only place that really checks with the app in my world is a sweaty dance club in Prague. This is actually very appropriate. They even match with my ID.