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Cannabis and Male Fertility: A Systematic Review
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- hall0ween 5y agoSave politics for facebook
- 71a54xd 5y agoPlease point to the political slant of my comment.
- imsd 5y agoReally? "..future socialists will adjust accordingly and promulgate the slacker gene..."
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- rajup 5y ago"Maybe future socialists will adjust accordingly and promulgate the slacker gene in some other form?"
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- slater 5y agoDid you time-travel here from the 1960s?
- da_big_ghey 5y agoI do not understand why you mean, it is obvious no.
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- mbg721 5y agoThat would be the clumsy and massively-regulated healthcare behemoth that has been an empty promise since Lyndon Johnson was President.
- dang 5y agoPlease do not perpetuate flamewars on HN. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- dang 5y agoPlease do not perpetuate flamewars on HN. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
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- dragonwriter 5y ago> socialists get rich on medical stocks The haut bourgeoisie are, by and large, not socialists, but capitalists in the ideological as well as the class sense.
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- dang 5y agoPlease stop using HN for ideological battle. You've been doing it a ton, and we ban that sort of account. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html Edit: your account seems to have been using HN exclusively for this. That's not allowed here, so I've banned it. If you don't want to be banned, you're welcome to email hn@ycombinator.com and give us reason to believe that you'll follow the rules in the future.
- da39a3ee 5y ago> Animal models demonstrate a role for cannabis in … reduced libido and sexual function but to our knowledge these results have not yet been replicated in human studies. Um.
- dustintrex 5y agoFor comparison, alcohol is well known to have a dramatic impact on both sperm and testosterone production once you exceed a fairly modest threshold (5 drinks/week): https://pathfertility.com/how-does-alcohol-affect-male-fertility/ https://pathfertility.com/how-does-alcohol-affect-male-ferti...
- sydthrowaway 5y agoPeople who have ED need to read this.
- froh 5y agoWhat does ED stand for?
- CountGeek 5y agoErectile Disfunction
- LargoLasskhyfv 5y agoWhy? An erection is just a natural delivery mechanism, no measure of healthy, or rather fertile sperm. Besides that Weed tends to give me a real hard boner. So I don't get your point?
- agumonkey 5y agoBiking too
- dumbfoundded 5y agoHot tubs are the closest thing we have to male birth control.
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- 13of40 5y agoI'm not saying that their data isn't accurate, but it is strange that there's a 1:1 relationship between what the government wants to clamp down on and what will make your sperm die, make your testicles shrink, or make your penis flaccid.
- ackbar03 5y ago> government wants to clamp down on and what will make your sperm die, make your testicles shrink, or make your penis flaccid Hey man, if those are things you want, there are much easier ways which the government isn't clamping down on! You have my full support!
- 13of40 5y agoNo, my point is that essentially saying your man parts are going to stop working is an easy path to ground for propagandists. I'm just floating the idea that's why cigarettes, alcohol, weed, cocaine, steroids, COVID, (edit also vaccines against COVID) and god-knows-what all have a steady stream of clickbait articles about how they damage your manhood.
- dumbfoundded 5y agoI worked in the legal cannabis industry & I'm pretty sure it's just old puritan values for the most part. There's also a large history related to alcohol prohibition. Long story short, the government agency that handled enforcing prohibition needed something to do after prohibition ended. Then came waves of propaganda associating weed with black people, mexicans, and gays to make white people scared of it. Isn't it kind of weird that we call it marijuana in federal laws? Before, it was all just called "hemp". Nixon ramped it up and created the beginnings of our modern prison state. The US is the most incarcerated country in the world both by per capita and total number (1). Mass imprisonment became a way steal votes away from these communities as well as create a more palatable version of slavery where we currently have people working for $0.25/hour. The reason why so much research is just coming out now is because it was illegal to study the plant. So it's kind of backwards to say the fertility or any other non-obvious effects inspired criminalization as no science was done until it became legal enough to study. (1) https://www.statista.com/statistics/262961/countries-with-the-most-prisoners/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/262961/countries-with-th...
- cmckn 5y agoThe important bit: > Current research suggests that cannabis may negatively impact male fertility. Further studies are needed to validate that robust findings in animal models will carry over into human experience. My takeaway: if you are having trouble reproducing, and/or your doctor finds some anomalies in a full fertility workup, you may want to talk about your marijuana use with them. That's about it.
- zxcvbn4038 5y agoI think this explains the sudden rush to legalize marijuana - if you can’t jail the pot heads then keep them from breeding! Solves multiple problems and so simple I’m surprised Nixon didn’t do this in the 70s.
- vmception 5y agoIn most recreationally legal states, the legalization laws came from direct democracy with the people who would not be involved with any convoluted goal aside from the stated goal on the ballot. There is nothing a governor or representative could do. The people decided that jail was a counterproductive public policy measure and the people decided that the supply chain could be controlled to protect consumers. This concept will likely to be extended to most of the schedule, a new framework is necessary as prohibition is being repealed, again.
- systemvoltage 5y agoThanks for your comment. I used to think in conspiratorial ways - “Marijuana movement in US is a Chinese CCP weapon to kill US productivity, plummet the GDP and reduce population”. Sometimes it’s just easy to imagine that a bunch of people voted for it.
- zxcvbn4038 5y agoChina doesn't need to help, they just need to be patient while we do it to ourselves!
- cmckn 5y agoTangential addendum: I used to smoke pot all the time. From my mid-teens to mid-twenties. At least once a day, increasing over time to 3-5-∞ times a day. In the last year, I have significantly reduced my marijuana usage to less than once a week. My mental health has benefitted tremendously (also thanks to a great therapist!). I sleep better, I eat less shitty food, I enjoy sex more, I feel overall more equipped to handle my daily life and be an adult. I only date people of the same sex, so standard reproduction isn't a big concern for me; but if you're a pothead like I was (am?)--there's a lot more to reflect on than your sperm count. :)
- gremIin 5y ago> I only date people of the same sex I initially read that as a side effect of not smoking weed anymore.
- cmckn 5y agohahahaha! In which case, can't recommend it enough!
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- dumbfoundded 5y agoI think a lot of pro cannabis people are out of balance with viewing the negative side effects. It's a drug and has side-effects. It's much safer than tobacco and alcohol but it certainly has side effects including a strong psychological addiction potential.
- medo-bear 5y agoi don't understand this cannabis-is-safer-than-alcohol myth. for example, i know people that have an extremely low mental tolerance for cannabis while functioning completely normal on a bottle of beer a day. also, i think that it is fairly well known that cannabis has a worrying correlation with schizophrenia [0] [0] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7442038/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7442038/
- goldenshale 5y agoYeah, when we wanted to have a kid I quit cannabis and hot-tubbing for 6 months in anticipation of conceiving. It worked, and she's healthy! Sample size of 1, but it felt like kind of a nice way to commit to a family and get in the proper head space anyways.
- devnull3 5y ago> hot-tubbing How does this affect fertility?
- op00to 5y agoThe hot water cooks your balls. There’s a reason they dangle outside the thermal mass of your body.
- loeg 5y agoRegular exposure to hot water (baths or hot tubs) is a somewhat reliable male birth control.[1] [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat-based_contraception https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat-based_contraception
- cmclaughlin 5y agoCounter point - Bob Marley had 12 kids
- superdisk 5y agoWeed was a lot less potent back then.
- monetus 5y agoThere is some debate there apparently. I once heard a wailer say that it was actually 22, but checking wikipedia it says 11.
- kumarvvr 5y agoThere is an exception to every rule. It just might be that BM was having a lot more sex than the average guy. Probability alone would account for 12 (or 22) children.
- lotsofpulp 5y agoQuality could also have been affected.
- blitzar 5y agoHe only had 12 kids. The rate he went through groupies I would expect 100+
- m0zg 5y ago> studies are needed to validate that robust findings in animal models will carry over into human experience So this is one of those "in mice" FUD pieces, and probably enough THC by weight to kill a horse. Trust the "science" (tm).
- xer0x 5y agoHow to tell your brother to stop spending money on fertility treatment without telling your brother to stop smoking weed?
- cyberpsybin 5y ago> We performed a literature search using PubMed®/MEDLINE® to identify relevant studies of the effects of cannabis on male fertility. Relevant studies were identified and reviewed. Why is this presented as new research?
- soldehierro 5y agoIt's not, that's what a review is.
- laretluval 5y agoGood, fewer stoners in the next generation
- adminscoffee 5y agointerestingly enough it actually increases testosterone
- op00to 5y agoCool, do fast food or alcohol next!
- amanaplanacanal 5y agoOr plastic exposure. But I’m not sure how you would find a control group.
- sleepysysadmin 5y agoA systematic review that came out with 'may' do something and never addressed the elephant in the room? That's very weak in my books. Cannabis is an aphrodisiac. If they found a small effect, it's something else. What is that something else?: https://www.niehs.nih.gov/health/topics/agents/endocrine/index.cfm https://www.niehs.nih.gov/health/topics/agents/endocrine/ind... Every single one of those is in your drinking water, most of them are in your food. It's even worse if you live coastal on salt water where they recycle water often. No government attempts to remove these. This is the reason you need water filtration or pay for the giant water bottles. Also the reason why many countries don't even bother trying to make clean water. Dont drink the water in Mexico etcetc.
- hikerclimber1 5y agoCannabis is bad for you.