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EU to ban anonymous websites and “whois privacy” services
- donkarma 5y agowhat happens to Njalla?
- _hilro 5y agoI've been leaning more and more away from a global internet and back to regional EU only internet. EU & US & every other region in the world are different. As it stands, the global internet is dominated by US cultures & laws. I think the internet as it stands inhibits Europeans forging their own path. Don't reply to say "ur WRIting tHIs On US site".
- chatoyance 5y agoI would just host in Iceland, Greenland, or somewhere FBI-takedown-proof and avoid noxious, invasive EU/US regulations.
- IiydAbITMvJkqKf 5y agoYou're writing this on a US site. You try to change the lives of hundreds of millions of people for the worse, when you are not even able to change your own.
- raxxorrax 5y agoAs a European I would highly like to switch to the Anglo internet full of barbarism in that case. I don't think something like the internet could have been developed in Europe and legislation like this hints to the reasons.
- Gargyle 5y agoApplies to domains. Not just websites. Even phone number in whois required.
- throwawaysea 5y agoThis is a terrible proposal. People deserve the right to anonymous communication. WHOIS Privacy services are a key part of granting that anonymity. This is especially bad for activists, whistleblowers, and the politically persecuted. But it is also just bad in an 'everyday' sense, for people who simply do not want their personal information out there visible for the whole world to see.
- _hilro 5y ago> This is especially bad for activists, whistleblowers, and the politically persecuted No, it's not. There's no need for hyperbole. They can always go through an intermediary.
- raxxorrax 5y agoThat is laughable, the law doesn't net advantages aside from letting scared bureaucrats sleep better at night.
- chatoyance 5y agoYeap. Mandatory doxing is a terrible idea when attackers, stalkers, and other threats remain perfectly anonymous.
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- indemnity 5y agoTime to block EU IPs I guess. Not going back to public whois.
- KingMachiavelli 5y agoYou have to remember that the WHOIS services for EU TLDs are not public due to GDPR as least all of the ones I have tried to resolve are all unavailable now. This is still terrible since it just raises the cost of privacy to the cost of registering a shell LLC or the EU equivalent or having a law office register in your place, etc. Many EU cTLDs already do register using a real name but they keep the info somewhat private.
- detaro 5y agoSigh, after GDPR (IMHO rightfully) doing its best to kill public-by-default WHOIS, now double-down in the reverse. Seriously wonder if any lobby pushed for that or self-thought-out stupidity.
- MiddleEndian 5y agoNew business plan: Offer cheap useless/fake phone numbers addresses that don't actually exist in any functional way to be used for whois data.
- donkarma 5y agothey do whois data checks IIRC
- MiddleEndian 5y agoHow do the data checks work? You can have a PO Box for a whois address and you can have any number of phone numbers in general.
- raxxorrax 5y agoThe EU becomes a hostile place to civil rights more and more. This isn't about fighting criminals, that would be ineffective. It is about information control. Cooperation with the EU on anything digital should be minimized.