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There are many government mandates for the benefit of disabled people. We generally think this is ok.

• furgooswft13 5y ago
  Which of those mandates require other people to lose their jobs for not getting a chemical injection?
  • UncleMeat 5y ago
    You can get weekly tests.
    • CryptoPunk 5y ago
      Having to undergo the inconvenience of weekly tests, to be allowed to do a large fractions of jobs, which makes you undesirable to employers as well to do the cost of testing, is discrimination.
      • AndrewDucker 5y ago
        Yes, it's discriminating against people who are putting the lives of those around them at risk. I'm fine with that.
        • CryptoPunk 5y ago
          COVID vaccines don't stop transmission enough to provide herd immunuty, so don't reduce the risk posed to others. In fact not getting vaccinated makes it more likely one will acquire natural immunity from an infection, and people with natural immunity are less likely to transmit the virus, so it may actually be more protective for others if a higher percentage of the population doesn't get vaccinated and acquires natural immunity.
          • seanmcdirmid 5y ago
            If not enough people get vaccinated, transmission won’t be stopped. If the virus has a fertile easily infectable unvaccinated population to continuously mutate in, herd immunity is unlikely to be achieved.
            • unanswered 5y ago
              > If not enough people get vaccinated, transmission won’t be stopped. The comment above yours literally just explained that the vaccine does not stop transmission of the virus! You're repeating catchphrases from 12 months ago when the government was insisting the vaccine stopped the spread of the virus; when they knew perfectly well that wasn't true!
              • seanmcdirmid 5y ago
                Do you think in binary about everything? The vaccine doesn’t stop transmission, it reduces it. If there is a .1% of mutation happening per transmitted case, then a vaccine that prevents 70% of transmissions is still invaluable, and those who aren’t getting vaccinated are playing haphazardly with everyone else’s health. The less the times dice are rolled, the harder it is for the virus to continue being viable.
                • unanswered 5y ago
                  The vaccine does not stop 70% of transmission. To date sufficiently large RCTs have not shown that the so-called vaccine reduces transmission by even 1%. Mutation rate also doesn't have anything to do with transmission. At all.
                • CryptoPunk 5y ago
                  Mutation doesn't happen with transmission. It happens with replication of the virus, which happens continually as long as there is a host. The mutation rate is dependent on the size of the global population of virus carriers, so one country's policies with respect to covid are highly unlikely to have a significant impact on it. And like I said, not vaccinating low risk groups could lead to herd immunity through natural infection faster. Overall, there is very weak justification for a policy as heavy handed as forced vaccination (via instititonalized discrimination against the unvaccinated).
• nanis 5y ago
  Yes there are ... You have established that a greater than zero consideration for the people with disabilities exists and that is great. The question is whether there is a what is the greatest cost you are willing to impose on everyone to provide a small benefit to some specific people. And, no, you don't get to claim children will do just fine going without face to face contact with other children their age for years for some nonquantifiable benefit that might or might not accrue to a person at risk.