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The Linux Experiment is probably my favourite linux-focussed YouTube channel. Nick has been doing absolutely fantastic work and his channel being permanently de

The Linux Experiment is probably my favourite linux-focussed YouTube channel. Nick has been doing absolutely fantastic work and his channel being permanently deleted would be an absolute travesty and a clear mistake. He is producing high quality, thoughtful, inoffensive content. Here's to hoping the channel is rightly reinstated ASAP, along with an apology and explanation from Google. Also, if you don't know the channel and want to check out his videos, you can still watch them on Odysee - https://odysee.com/@TheLinuxExperiment https://odysee.com/@TheLinuxExperiment.

lucasyvas 5y ago
Does anyone have more context? This is one of my favourite Linux channels... what the fuck. This drive-by algorithm BS is ridiculous.
drcongo 5y ago
What is Odysee? I'm intrigued because at first glance it seems to be better than YouTube in almost every way possible. Page loads are quick, if you turn off AutoPlay it actually stays off, the controls are actually usable on an iPad etc.
- fragileone 5y ago
  It's a peer-to-peer video client, with part of it's data being directly shared (similarly to torrents) and part via a blockchain. This makes it highly resistant to censorship and thus is where many people are moving their channels to.
  - corobo 5y ago
    > This makes it highly resistant to censorship We should probably stop using this phrase as a feature Instant thought was "ok so other than this channel it's all racism"
    - zbrozek 5y ago
      Certainly wasn't my first thought. Though there may be a better phrase.
    - martin_a 5y ago
      Yeah, sounds like an unregulated place for all the people who were thrown out by those with at least some ethics left. update: yeah, downvotes, whatever... "censorship" these days is often enough because people tell other people to use horse dewormer or drink bleach. It's not because they're having highly sophisticated discussions about global politics, but simply because they're actively harming people, spreading hate and whatnot. platforms should be able to decide whether they want to "poison" their living room by giving a platform to such content.
      - TheRealPomax 5y ago
        Not everything's for just the US.
      - dmantis 5y ago
        US guy detected. Go travel to Russia, China, Middle East and other funny countries, you would find a lot of interesting things which you can be jailed for, not just banned by gov request on social media platform. If you talk about international platforms, you should kinda think about that.
        martin_a 5y ago
        I'm from Germany, don't worry about US bias. And I think it's fair that people in Germany are not allowed to deny that the Holocaust has happened. Call it whatever you like but remembering this monstrosity is the least thing we can do and far-right idiots don't need to have a platform for telling otherwise.
      - bloopernova 5y ago
        And the folks downvoting you would probably call themselves "free speech advocates". Which in my experience means they speak from a position of high privilege to not see the massive negative effects of the hate speech they strive to protect. Or that their purpose on this site is to spread division and hate.
  - iotku 5y ago
    It's worth noting that while based on LBRY (The supposedly censorship resistant blockchain protocol) Odysee is a bit more opinionated front end with restrictions on things such as pornography. By the standards of "alternative" video sites there's a pretty diverse set of content including mirrors from some well known YouTube creators (KhanAcademy, EEVBlog, GreatScott, Veritasium, HarwareUnboxed, Not Just Bikes, EposVox) who don't produce heavily political content (whereas many other alt tech video sites are just 99% political content going a single direction) Given goals towards freedom of speech, some content won't align with you politically (and some might), but there's enough decent content that you can potentially use it as an alternative platform successfully.
    - laurent92 5y ago
      Veritasium is not political? He is, very. It’s just that you don’t see it. It’s not an accusation, just a reminder that the background noise is non-neutral, and he doesn’t contrast very much on your background ;)
      - wiskinator 5y ago
        In what ways? I'm just curious. The channel doesn't seem political to me either, so I want to investigate my blindspots.
      - iotku 5y ago
        Eh perhaps, I revised the comment a few times here and there. I guess I would say I'm aiming towards examples that are big enough to be notable and not just directly focused on political analysis or similar or type channels. A lot of what throws somewhat sane people (I would include myself in that but of course I'm biased) off of using the alternate video sites is the second you load up the home page of something like BitChute or rumble and see nearly an entire page full heavily one-sided political content and many (justifiably) believe there's no content for them if they don't align there. Odysee could use some more quality content for sure, but they at least operate in such a way that I'm not convinced they're only for one type of content and some of the creators I watch in Linux/technology space have somewhat of a presence there.
      - 5y ago
  - bitL 5y ago
    Can you self-host it like PeerTube?
    - 2Gkashmiri 5y ago
      there is something called tilvids.com that hosts educational as well as edutainment content. a good fit for the linuxexperiment. either that or do like videos.lukesmith.xyz and build your own. It is really not difficult or does not cost a fortune
- kxrm 5y ago
  Except oddly dark mode requires an account. That's a strange requirement when they can pull this from the browser preference.
- Mockapapella 5y ago
  Holy crap, you weren't kidding about the pages loading quickly. I wish every web page loaded that fast.
- busymom0 5y ago
  Out of all the alt-tech, Odysee has been my favourite. Their UI is quite nice and they also have a wide variety of content.
enriquto 5y ago
> Here's to hoping the channel is rightly reinstated ASAP I for one am not looking forward to this. Youtube is no longer an acceptable platform for distributing your videos. If a person who makes good videos is forced out of youtube, that can only be a good thing. Hopefully their videos will help make another service more popular. Youtube terms of service are public and unacceptable. People who get burned by them had it coming.
- Uehreka 5y ago
  If there was a clear alternative that’d be one thing, but there isn’t, and I suspect this creator is one of those high-quality-but-small-audience channels where they don’t have enough pull to bootstrap an alternative themselves. So it seems kind of naive to say “that can only be a good thing”.
  - enriquto 5y ago
    Ultra-famous accounts with zillions of subscribers are likely on a first-name basis with the youtube admins who cater to them. The move out of the platform will of course start from below.
    - vorpalhex 5y ago
      Markiplier, one of those ultra famous accounts who is on a first name basis with their rep, has posted a few stories about how content gets demonitized for no reason and even his rep has no clue why and is powerless.
      - iforgotpassword 5y ago
        And still there is nothing else that gets him close in reach and monetization. Even if only one out of ten videos is monetized that's most likely still better than anything else.
    - Bayart 5y ago
      Maybe Pewdiepie, but quite a few channels in the millions have hinted that getting through to a human was impossible without a Twitter campaign.
phkahler 5y ago
>> you can still watch them on Odysee Never heard of them, but that page looks great! Bookmarked.
- dan1234 5y ago
  It's the video/consumer frontend to LBRY, a decentralised/p2p/blockchain based publishing platform. I hope it can achieve a critical mass because it does look interesting, but I don't hear many people talking about it - even in tech circles. https://lbry.com https://lbry.com https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LBRY https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LBRY
  - morganvachon 5y ago
    I just scrolled through their main feed and every other video was some kind of alt-right misinformation rant (COVID is fake, Joe Biden is dead/dying/has dementia, Antifa is killing kids, etc.). Just based on that alone I want no part of it.
    - int_19h 5y ago
      Most of the content on any such platform is going to be the kind that was banned from mainstream platforms for whatever reason. But it's not just alt-right agitprop that gets banned. And any individual targeted group is not large enough to maintain a viable platform of their own. So either we have a public platform place with the stink, or we have none at all.
      - Forbo 5y ago
        I think the complaint isn't that the content exists there, but rather that it makes up the vast majority of what is found there. If the majority of Netflix content is trash that I wouldn't want to watch, why would I continue using Netflix? I think the big issue here is that there hasn't been a need for opposing content to be published on the platform, and until there is it will remain slanted one way. This in and of itself will further reduce adoption by the opposition, as seen above, because of how immediately off-putting it is.
fouc 5y ago
Seems like odysee doesn't have captioning. Looks amazing but no captioning is a deal killer.
_nalply 5y ago
It seems that Odysee forgot the captions. As a Deaf programmer I need captioning. Or are they hidden away somewhere in the settings? EDIT: I mailed to hello@lbry.com and asked them about this.
- asddubs 5y ago
  Feels to me like less and less youtube videos have the auto-caption option as well these days.

lucasyvas 5y ago

Does anyone have more context? This is one of my favourite Linux channels... what the fuck. This drive-by algorithm BS is ridiculous.

drcongo 5y ago

What is Odysee? I'm intrigued because at first glance it seems to be better than YouTube in almost every way possible. Page loads are quick, if you turn off AutoPlay it actually stays off, the controls are actually usable on an iPad etc.

fragileone 5y ago
It's a peer-to-peer video client, with part of it's data being directly shared (similarly to torrents) and part via a blockchain. This makes it highly resistant to censorship and thus is where many people are moving their channels to.
- corobo 5y ago
  > This makes it highly resistant to censorship We should probably stop using this phrase as a feature Instant thought was "ok so other than this channel it's all racism"
  - zbrozek 5y ago
    Certainly wasn't my first thought. Though there may be a better phrase.
  - martin_a 5y ago
    Yeah, sounds like an unregulated place for all the people who were thrown out by those with at least some ethics left. update: yeah, downvotes, whatever... "censorship" these days is often enough because people tell other people to use horse dewormer or drink bleach. It's not because they're having highly sophisticated discussions about global politics, but simply because they're actively harming people, spreading hate and whatnot. platforms should be able to decide whether they want to "poison" their living room by giving a platform to such content.
    - TheRealPomax 5y ago
      Not everything's for just the US.
    - dmantis 5y ago
      US guy detected. Go travel to Russia, China, Middle East and other funny countries, you would find a lot of interesting things which you can be jailed for, not just banned by gov request on social media platform. If you talk about international platforms, you should kinda think about that.
      - martin_a 5y ago
        I'm from Germany, don't worry about US bias. And I think it's fair that people in Germany are not allowed to deny that the Holocaust has happened. Call it whatever you like but remembering this monstrosity is the least thing we can do and far-right idiots don't need to have a platform for telling otherwise.
    - bloopernova 5y ago
      And the folks downvoting you would probably call themselves "free speech advocates". Which in my experience means they speak from a position of high privilege to not see the massive negative effects of the hate speech they strive to protect. Or that their purpose on this site is to spread division and hate.
- iotku 5y ago
  It's worth noting that while based on LBRY (The supposedly censorship resistant blockchain protocol) Odysee is a bit more opinionated front end with restrictions on things such as pornography. By the standards of "alternative" video sites there's a pretty diverse set of content including mirrors from some well known YouTube creators (KhanAcademy, EEVBlog, GreatScott, Veritasium, HarwareUnboxed, Not Just Bikes, EposVox) who don't produce heavily political content (whereas many other alt tech video sites are just 99% political content going a single direction) Given goals towards freedom of speech, some content won't align with you politically (and some might), but there's enough decent content that you can potentially use it as an alternative platform successfully.
  - laurent92 5y ago
    Veritasium is not political? He is, very. It’s just that you don’t see it. It’s not an accusation, just a reminder that the background noise is non-neutral, and he doesn’t contrast very much on your background ;)
    - wiskinator 5y ago
      In what ways? I'm just curious. The channel doesn't seem political to me either, so I want to investigate my blindspots.
    - iotku 5y ago
      Eh perhaps, I revised the comment a few times here and there. I guess I would say I'm aiming towards examples that are big enough to be notable and not just directly focused on political analysis or similar or type channels. A lot of what throws somewhat sane people (I would include myself in that but of course I'm biased) off of using the alternate video sites is the second you load up the home page of something like BitChute or rumble and see nearly an entire page full heavily one-sided political content and many (justifiably) believe there's no content for them if they don't align there. Odysee could use some more quality content for sure, but they at least operate in such a way that I'm not convinced they're only for one type of content and some of the creators I watch in Linux/technology space have somewhat of a presence there.
    - 5y ago
- bitL 5y ago
  Can you self-host it like PeerTube?
  - 2Gkashmiri 5y ago
    there is something called tilvids.com that hosts educational as well as edutainment content. a good fit for the linuxexperiment. either that or do like videos.lukesmith.xyz and build your own. It is really not difficult or does not cost a fortune
kxrm 5y ago
Except oddly dark mode requires an account. That's a strange requirement when they can pull this from the browser preference.
Mockapapella 5y ago
Holy crap, you weren't kidding about the pages loading quickly. I wish every web page loaded that fast.
busymom0 5y ago
Out of all the alt-tech, Odysee has been my favourite. Their UI is quite nice and they also have a wide variety of content.

enriquto 5y ago

> Here's to hoping the channel is rightly reinstated ASAP I for one am not looking forward to this. Youtube is no longer an acceptable platform for distributing your videos. If a person who makes good videos is forced out of youtube, that can only be a good thing. Hopefully their videos will help make another service more popular. Youtube terms of service are public and unacceptable. People who get burned by them had it coming.

Uehreka 5y ago
If there was a clear alternative that’d be one thing, but there isn’t, and I suspect this creator is one of those high-quality-but-small-audience channels where they don’t have enough pull to bootstrap an alternative themselves. So it seems kind of naive to say “that can only be a good thing”.
- enriquto 5y ago
  Ultra-famous accounts with zillions of subscribers are likely on a first-name basis with the youtube admins who cater to them. The move out of the platform will of course start from below.
  - vorpalhex 5y ago
    Markiplier, one of those ultra famous accounts who is on a first name basis with their rep, has posted a few stories about how content gets demonitized for no reason and even his rep has no clue why and is powerless.
    - iforgotpassword 5y ago
      And still there is nothing else that gets him close in reach and monetization. Even if only one out of ten videos is monetized that's most likely still better than anything else.
  - Bayart 5y ago
    Maybe Pewdiepie, but quite a few channels in the millions have hinted that getting through to a human was impossible without a Twitter campaign.

phkahler 5y ago

>> you can still watch them on Odysee Never heard of them, but that page looks great! Bookmarked.

dan1234 5y ago
It's the video/consumer frontend to LBRY, a decentralised/p2p/blockchain based publishing platform. I hope it can achieve a critical mass because it does look interesting, but I don't hear many people talking about it - even in tech circles. https://lbry.com https://lbry.com https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LBRY https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LBRY
- morganvachon 5y ago
  I just scrolled through their main feed and every other video was some kind of alt-right misinformation rant (COVID is fake, Joe Biden is dead/dying/has dementia, Antifa is killing kids, etc.). Just based on that alone I want no part of it.
  - int_19h 5y ago
    Most of the content on any such platform is going to be the kind that was banned from mainstream platforms for whatever reason. But it's not just alt-right agitprop that gets banned. And any individual targeted group is not large enough to maintain a viable platform of their own. So either we have a public platform place with the stink, or we have none at all.
    - Forbo 5y ago
      I think the complaint isn't that the content exists there, but rather that it makes up the vast majority of what is found there. If the majority of Netflix content is trash that I wouldn't want to watch, why would I continue using Netflix? I think the big issue here is that there hasn't been a need for opposing content to be published on the platform, and until there is it will remain slanted one way. This in and of itself will further reduce adoption by the opposition, as seen above, because of how immediately off-putting it is.

fouc 5y ago

Seems like odysee doesn't have captioning. Looks amazing but no captioning is a deal killer.

_nalply 5y ago

It seems that Odysee forgot the captions. As a Deaf programmer I need captioning. Or are they hidden away somewhere in the settings? EDIT: I mailed to hello@lbry.com and asked them about this.

asddubs 5y ago
Feels to me like less and less youtube videos have the auto-caption option as well these days.