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Won't this create an incentive not to get the vaccine in order to continue working from home? Or to lie about your vaccination status? Companies should either i
by HenryKissinger 5y ago
Won't this create an incentive not to get the vaccine in order to continue working from home? Or to lie about your vaccination status? Companies should either institute broad vaccine mandates, or allow both vaccinated and unvaccinated employees to work from home, or bring everyone back to the office. Any policy tying your wfh status to vaccines will be abused.
If anything, employees who get the vaccine should be the ones allowed to work from home, not the contrary, though this creates a health risk by concentrating all the unvaccinated employees together at the office.
- me_me_me 5y agoNah not really, only incentive to tell that you are not vaccinated.
- inanutshellus 5y agoHopefully for companies following suit they'll make it "anyone can work from home; unvaccinated must work from home". If only unvaccinated can work from home, yeah, bass-ackwards incentivization.
- smitop 5y agoI'm not sure what is going on with UBS, but I would think that they would similarly allow vaccinated people to also work from home if they wish.
- tjpnz 5y agoThere's bound to be more fun things one would also be barred from doing by adopting this stance.
- Jenk 5y agoI suspect that UBS leadership perceive working at the office as desirable. Maybe it is the same perception for UBS employees. Maybe those at home miss out on some perks or even get neglected by their managers. Personally I doubt it, and I expect there's probably a sinister undertone to this message along the lines of "Those who work at home will be treated as less willing" or something.
- asplake 5y agoEx UBS employee here, 12 years including Swissbank pre merger. They do more than most to avoid negative publicity, especially any that might come from legal action. Related to that (or not) and very much on the plus side, they are (or at least were) a good employer. What’s not clear from this is whether those taking advantage will suffer any downsides. My guess is that they will as far as possible make that job-specific.
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- meerita 5y ago> Won't this create an incentive not to get the vaccine in order to continue working from home? Then working from home would be better no matter vacinnation and the right thing to do is to enforce working from home.
- otherme123 5y agoTwo clicks ahead they explain that "Hamers is rolling out a permanent hybrid working model for the firm globally, allowing at least two thirds of its employees to mix work from home and the office. Traders are part of the “25% to one third" of the bank’s staff for whom it is “really difficult" to work from home". Those people are banned for entering the bank buildings if they don't have a vaxx proof, so it's either get the jab or get out.
- HenryKissinger 5y agoCan't traders log in remotely to their Bloomberg terminal?
- swayvil 5y agoMy local Amish people work, shop and live together every day. No vax. And their health is unchanged. I think that the threat posed by covid, and the necessity of the vax, has been exaggerated.
- jacquesm 5y agohttps://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-covid-amish-idUSL2N2NZ1TY https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-covid-amish-idUSL2...
- andybak 5y agoThanks for the anecdata. I'm sure that outweighs all other evidence.
- nradov 5y agoAmish people have died from COVID-19. https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/04/28/990986056/covid-19-has-hit-the-amish-community-hard-still-vaccines-are-a-hard-sell https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/04/28/9909860...
- swayvil 5y agoI speak from firsthand observation and discussion. You speak from prepared news products delivered remotely by strangers. Grasp the epistemological difference here.
- bluGill 5y agoWorking from home means you lose all office politics by default. It is possible for companies to mitigate this, but most do not. Thus working from home is bad for your future promotions.