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Imagine how many more it might have been if she were vaccinated but a breakthrough case. Because the vaccine reduces severity but not viral load [1] it might ha

Imagine how many more it might have been if she were vaccinated but a breakthrough case. Because the vaccine reduces severity but not viral load [1] it might have taken much longer to detect the problem. Vaccines are not a silver bullet. We pretend they are I’ve noticed (recall the cdc saying no more masks last June). We do so at our own peril. [1] https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02187-1 https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02187-1

api 5y ago
Yes that’s possible, but it still doesn’t excuse idiots who get their health advice from YouTube, celebrities, or talk radio blowhards. The vaccine reduces the odds of getting the virus (even without symptoms), and if there were no antivaxxers this thing might be almost dead. The fact that 40% of the population won’t vaccine because of quack nonsense is ludicrous. I’m honestly not sure why anyone listens to celebrities about anything. Has a celebrity ever been right about anything but acting?
- newbamboo 5y ago
  There’s not enough nuance in medical reporting for sure but some of the best information for laymen has been available on YouTube, despite early censorship of those warning of the impending pandemic. I’m referring to MedCram and Dr John Campbell specifically. The racaniello podcast as well. (Edit to correct racaniello’s spelling.
  - api 5y ago
    You really need to already know something about medicine to get medical info from YouTube. It’s 100:1 nonsense to good info about medicine over there.
- CozyBearNotSoy 5y ago
  Who should one be listening to for health advice? Anthony Fauci, InStyle cover model? Don Lemon? Bill Gates? I bet if one group of people weren't threatening to ruin the other group's lives (deny them employment, access to education, custody of their children) you would see more in the second group willing to "vaccinate". Unfortunately the first group has taken an authoritarian posture on the matter and is consequently distrusted.
  - api 5y ago
    Actual doctors. Don’t like Fauci pick another actual doctor with expertise in infectious disease and they will probably say similar things. The reason people’s lives are being ruined is because idiots won’t vaccinate and so we can’t achieve herd immunity fast enough. We could have probably stopped Delta if people listened to experts in medicine about medicine. Do you listen to dentists about software engineering? Why do people who would never trust armchair opinions in their own field think you can listen to celebrities about medicine? Or politicians? It’s not a partisan thing either. The antivax thing was a loony left thing before Trump brought in the new age, and if Biden started saying stupid shit about COVID I’d ignore him too. He’s not a doctor either.

api 5y ago

Yes that’s possible, but it still doesn’t excuse idiots who get their health advice from YouTube, celebrities, or talk radio blowhards. The vaccine reduces the odds of getting the virus (even without symptoms), and if there were no antivaxxers this thing might be almost dead. The fact that 40% of the population won’t vaccine because of quack nonsense is ludicrous. I’m honestly not sure why anyone listens to celebrities about anything. Has a celebrity ever been right about anything but acting?

newbamboo 5y ago
There’s not enough nuance in medical reporting for sure but some of the best information for laymen has been available on YouTube, despite early censorship of those warning of the impending pandemic. I’m referring to MedCram and Dr John Campbell specifically. The racaniello podcast as well. (Edit to correct racaniello’s spelling.
- api 5y ago
  You really need to already know something about medicine to get medical info from YouTube. It’s 100:1 nonsense to good info about medicine over there.
CozyBearNotSoy 5y ago
Who should one be listening to for health advice? Anthony Fauci, InStyle cover model? Don Lemon? Bill Gates? I bet if one group of people weren't threatening to ruin the other group's lives (deny them employment, access to education, custody of their children) you would see more in the second group willing to "vaccinate". Unfortunately the first group has taken an authoritarian posture on the matter and is consequently distrusted.
- api 5y ago
  Actual doctors. Don’t like Fauci pick another actual doctor with expertise in infectious disease and they will probably say similar things. The reason people’s lives are being ruined is because idiots won’t vaccinate and so we can’t achieve herd immunity fast enough. We could have probably stopped Delta if people listened to experts in medicine about medicine. Do you listen to dentists about software engineering? Why do people who would never trust armchair opinions in their own field think you can listen to celebrities about medicine? Or politicians? It’s not a partisan thing either. The antivax thing was a loony left thing before Trump brought in the new age, and if Biden started saying stupid shit about COVID I’d ignore him too. He’s not a doctor either.