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I don't know anything about desalination but from what I've seen on YouTube, desalination does not result in clean water and powder table salt. It results in wa

by mcny 5y ago

I don't know anything about desalination but from what I've seen on YouTube, desalination does not result in clean water and powder table salt. It results in water and very salty water. What do we do with this very salty water? Apparently, it isn't safe to just dump it into the water source...

KozmoNau7 5y ago
Use it for power generation, trials have been run using the osmotic pressure to run turbines. Of course, the salty brine is still there.
- el_ravager 5y ago
  One word: pickles.
prawn 5y ago
I was a photographer on a cruise ship a couple of times this year and when we toured the engine rooms with the engineers, they said that the on-ship desalination plant was not able to operate anywhere near populated shore because they weren't allowed to dump the resulting brine.
notatoad 5y ago
i don't know what sort of quantities we're talking about here, but would it be feasible to use the brine for evaporative cooling, and then you've just got a solid to clean up afterwards.
- Scoundreller 5y ago
  As it gets more concentrated, the evaporation rate really drops (and boiling point goes up a lot), so less and less effective for cooling.
nradov 5y ago
Most desalinization plants actually do just dump the waste brine back into the water source. If the outflow pipe goes deep enough it's not too bad.
- throwaway894345 5y ago
  I wonder why they don’t just dump it into some bit of land where it can evaporate. Obviously this approach doesn’t work everywhere, i.e., if there is risk of it seeping into groundwater or other parts of the environment, but a few sq km of middle eastern desert? Seems fine.
  - dogma1138 5y ago
    If managed correctly there is little point. However it seems that the plants in Israel also use evaporative pools on some of the brine and sell it off to some chemical plants but at the scale they desalinate it just not feasible to pool all of if and you still need to get rid of the salt eventually. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0043135419311765 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S00431... https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6959559/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6959559/
MrFantastic 5y ago
Disposing the salt is a problem however there has been some exploration of using the salt brine as a building material.

by mcny 5y ago

KozmoNau7 5y ago

Use it for power generation, trials have been run using the osmotic pressure to run turbines. Of course, the salty brine is still there.

el_ravager 5y ago
One word: pickles.

prawn 5y ago

I was a photographer on a cruise ship a couple of times this year and when we toured the engine rooms with the engineers, they said that the on-ship desalination plant was not able to operate anywhere near populated shore because they weren't allowed to dump the resulting brine.

notatoad 5y ago

i don't know what sort of quantities we're talking about here, but would it be feasible to use the brine for evaporative cooling, and then you've just got a solid to clean up afterwards.

Scoundreller 5y ago
As it gets more concentrated, the evaporation rate really drops (and boiling point goes up a lot), so less and less effective for cooling.

nradov 5y ago

Most desalinization plants actually do just dump the waste brine back into the water source. If the outflow pipe goes deep enough it's not too bad.

throwaway894345 5y ago
I wonder why they don’t just dump it into some bit of land where it can evaporate. Obviously this approach doesn’t work everywhere, i.e., if there is risk of it seeping into groundwater or other parts of the environment, but a few sq km of middle eastern desert? Seems fine.
- dogma1138 5y ago
  If managed correctly there is little point. However it seems that the plants in Israel also use evaporative pools on some of the brine and sell it off to some chemical plants but at the scale they desalinate it just not feasible to pool all of if and you still need to get rid of the salt eventually. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0043135419311765 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S00431... https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6959559/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6959559/

MrFantastic 5y ago

Disposing the salt is a problem however there has been some exploration of using the salt brine as a building material.