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> don't want to spend extra years working How many 60+ people do you know? Do you honestly think they should still be working?
by Traubenfuchs 5y ago
> don't want to spend extra years working
How many 60+ people do you know? Do you honestly think they should still be working?
- jazzkingrt 5y agoBoth my parents are 60+, my father is in his mid seventies, and they are as productive as ever.
- smcl 5y agoCongratulations to them. My dad has worked manual labour since he left school aged 15 - first as a shipbuilder and then in the oil industry. My mum retired from teaching a year ago then developed lymphoma. Both of these people are in their 60s and have earned their retirement - we need not extract any more "productivity" from them. Leave them be.
- kiba 5y agoWe don't need to extract more productivity, sure, but it would lead to decreased medical costs.
- hobofan 5y agoSo instead we should extract a few more percent of productivity out of everybody who is pre-retirement age for every additional year of life expectancy?
- thatcat 5y agoThe alternative seems to be keeping the young under employed
- nradov 5y agoAre you referring to the "lump of labor" fallacy? https://www.stlouisfed.org/open-vault/2021/january/refuting-lump-labor-fallacy-two-lessons https://www.stlouisfed.org/open-vault/2021/january/refuting-...
- thatcat 5y agoNo, that refers to job openings across industries, specifically mentions agriculture jobs declining as other industries grow. Look at the median age of say politicians or tenured professors to see what I'm talking about.
- silasdavis 5y agoI know many people in their sixties who choose and want to work, including my parents. They are lucky in being able to choose to work at a reduced level and not out of absolute necessity so that changes the implications, but they do not want to retire completely. It's not clear that retirement is particularly healthy, longevity wise.
- BobbyJo 5y agoMy grandpa is 89 and refuses not to work. He thinks he'll fall apart once he does.
- Dave_TRS 5y agoMy grandpa is 94 and still enjoys working. Drives to Home Depot every day to pick up supplies for our family company, and other errands around the city. His view is that he enjoys it and helps him stay active.
- foolinaround 5y agocould it be explained as a generational gap? that generation tied a lot of value to the ability to work. the current generation looks for all possibilities to not work.
- munk-a 5y agoIf the current generation is looking for all possibilities to not work they're sure doing a crap job at it - the number of people working multiple jobs has shot up... Or did you mean that stereotypical millennials are lazy and thus all young people are lazy?
- foolinaround 5y agothe people working multiple jobs is due to how the jobs have gotten 'securitized' - people have become specialists in low skill jobs, leading to no growth at all. A person who is a Uber driver and a dog sitter is unable to display much skill addition after years on these jobs. i can only quote anecdotal data about the attitude to work among generations. On the other hand, because of the changing nature of the work, it is completely understandable.
- rblatz 5y agoI know a lot of people over 60 and almost all of them are still working.
- adrianN 5y agoRetirement age in Germany is 67, so you'd kind of expect that.
- ben_w 5y agoCurrent 60 year olds aren’t relevant to the hypothetical of “what if we cure more stuff?”, rather “what will 60 year olds be like if we cure more stuff?”
- Daishiman 5y agoHell yes. My parents are in their mid-60s. They are both full of energy, in great health, and very productive. As a teacher he's not allowed to work past 65, even when the classes he teaches have no suitable replacements. We should differentiate between blue-collar and white-collar work in retirement age. I would never wish someone who's worked in a factory or doing manual labor to keep on working. But if you've been sitting in an air-conditioned office all your life there's still plenty to go.